DLSS 4 on Nvidia RTX 5080 First Look: Super Res + Multi Frame-Gen on Cyberpunk 2077 RT Overdrive!

DLSS 4 on Nvidia RTX 5080 First Look: Super Res + Multi Frame-Gen on Cyberpunk 2077 RT Overdrive!

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@jakubmichniewicz343
@jakubmichniewicz343 - 08.01.2025 11:11

What is the difference though …

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@crumblebee6728
@crumblebee6728 - 08.01.2025 11:07

lol I honestly can't tell the difference anymore - they all still just look like games with better frame rates and resolution. I'm so bored of these iterative generational leaps - I just miss going from ps1 to ps2. I'm sure this is massively better than what we have now, but I just can't tell anymore. Until games literally look like Pixar or Blur studios, I'll be sticking to the series s and playing lower resolution version of these exact games..

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@OB0727
@OB0727 - 08.01.2025 11:03

Wish AMD FSR can keep up

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@cippo1995
@cippo1995 - 08.01.2025 11:03

I have noticed many audio glitches: do you use OBS to record?
I know that there are certain issues being overlooked from the devs causing this.

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@yoinkylive
@yoinkylive - 08.01.2025 11:02

brother is the david attenborough of pc gaming

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@Akusen_Arcade
@Akusen_Arcade - 08.01.2025 10:58

How much is Nvidia paying to make people say fake frames are a good thing? Can't wait to look at a 120fps game that feels like a 30fps game...

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@soberacidtrip
@soberacidtrip - 08.01.2025 10:51

I keep spotting so many artefacts, and I can't help but think this is a total disaster of a technology that has gotten way more mainstream acceptance than it ever should have. This is an amazing toy and nothing more, and yet we have Nvidia basically positioning their entire GFX card brand around it? Man what a strange time we're living in.

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@davemeredith6964
@davemeredith6964 - 08.01.2025 10:50

What a load of tosh. Nvidia up to their own tricks. No disrespect to DF. One of the best tech channels for gaming related things but.. Nvidia is again filling us with AI bs and fake frames.

What happened to native tendering? Also, look how NV ties you into 50 series having that one extra dlss4 tech that the previous cards can't have but possibly works fine on them?

The thing is. All this push for RT and yet no push for actual quality games with great and fresh gameplay. All this tech and power grows tiresome when we keep getting the same old tat and repetitive gameplay lacking innovation. Sack off all this ai nonsense and lets have gameplay over visuals. UE5 is killing game engines and frame gen, and fake frames and more is killing pockets.

I have a 4090 and its ridiculously powerful but its hardly being used in terms of its technical power. Constantly held back by console .

The fact Cyberpunk is being used to showcase is interesting. So games have not moved on in five years?

If turning off rt and pt means a better running game with more resources out into gameplay design then i am all for it.

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@egrassa1480
@egrassa1480 - 08.01.2025 10:49

Do a quick turnround, run across the city and see how blurry it gets

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@guderian557
@guderian557 - 08.01.2025 10:47

Wonder how much you get paid from nvidia for the marketing videos?

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@muhammetoguzhanaydogdu
@muhammetoguzhanaydogdu - 08.01.2025 10:47

I'm sick of fake frames. It feels like a scam.

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@darkhawk1979
@darkhawk1979 - 08.01.2025 10:47

Pro tip: play the video at 2x speed to see it at 120FPS if you screen can do it.

And yes, this works on any 60FPS video.

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@DMTEntity88
@DMTEntity88 - 08.01.2025 10:42

Nvidia is a scam company they are making this DLSS4 frame exclusive to 50 series so we can buy a new card. This is scummy behavior. We should not support them.

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@zedetach
@zedetach - 08.01.2025 10:41

As the owner of 3080, I'm sold on the 5070 Ti for as long as input lag is not noticeable.

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@gaminggazonk
@gaminggazonk - 08.01.2025 10:40

So we are trading in our kidneys for fake frames? Watch the side with no frame gen and dlss ....

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@imretix8081
@imretix8081 - 08.01.2025 10:38

how about showing RT off vs RT on? it looks no diffrence to me in 90% of the scenarions of the game. i found it to looks worse sometimes and have missing graphics all togeather.

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@Oswarlan
@Oswarlan - 08.01.2025 10:35

Frankly, the way the media continues to act like frame-gen is a good thing disgusts me. Acting all high and mighty at "doubling frame rates, or more!" but its not actual frame rate. Just the AIs interpretation of the frames and extra data its given. Add in the increased latency, and whats the point? "its ONLY 50-60ms!" Have higher standards.

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@Tex112-u7e
@Tex112-u7e - 08.01.2025 10:34

Oh brilliant i will finally be able to use calculator on my rtx 3050 4gb laptop nice one Nvidia

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@telefonbarmann4514
@telefonbarmann4514 - 08.01.2025 10:28

I'm most interested to know how performant the transformer model of super resolution is on the older generation of cards.

The new multi frame gen sounds interesting in some cases but it isn't really the big new thing i personally hoped for :/

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@lazyreuvin
@lazyreuvin - 08.01.2025 10:20

..... Nvidia: " But look at the quality graphics and frames we give you".

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@melmagallon6233
@melmagallon6233 - 08.01.2025 10:19

Awesome! Now devs will be SUPER lazy and “optimize” games to 5fps and we need this tech to make it playable 😂😂😂

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@cristianspiridon
@cristianspiridon - 08.01.2025 10:19

With 5090 being only @30% better than 4090 without dlss but with RT on, makes me think games without dlss/Raytracing, MFG will make the 5090 around 20% better.. for 30% more dollars???

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@theandroids
@theandroids - 08.01.2025 10:15

I'm into graphics fidelity more than 500fps. I dont even use frame gen. I limit frames to 40-60 depending on the game.

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@gordonfreeman9733
@gordonfreeman9733 - 08.01.2025 10:14

And CDPR killed this gorgeous engine for pathetic garbage UE5 is. Baffling.

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@endlesspivots1307
@endlesspivots1307 - 08.01.2025 10:14

There was something about NVidia Hair for Indiana Jones game. What's up with that?

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@BrentBlueAllen
@BrentBlueAllen - 08.01.2025 10:13

I sure do love my 1080p 60Hz setup. Reasonable standards can be so liberating.

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@MMAproAtGOLF
@MMAproAtGOLF - 08.01.2025 10:12

Dlss😂 no one wants to use hacks

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@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan - 08.01.2025 10:05

Imagine a world with the setting you run in your Game settings are what your monitor can support. So if your max is 4k 120fps youd simp==ly run it at the right frame generation multiplier

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@KevsShwaShwa
@KevsShwaShwa - 08.01.2025 10:05

Why can’t they just improve native performance. Relying on this other tech feels lazy.

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@beau-urns
@beau-urns - 08.01.2025 10:05

or we could just get a card that has power and doesnt need smoke and mirrors

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@andrewc1097
@andrewc1097 - 08.01.2025 10:03

I want to know how it’ll do native 4K + RTX for cyberpunk.

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@gameshark333
@gameshark333 - 08.01.2025 10:01

It was the year 3025, and we were still trying to run Cyberpunk 2077, a game from 2020, at a normal frame rate.

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@Dalek22comments
@Dalek22comments - 08.01.2025 10:01

No one wants latency infused frame generation nonsense. Ray Tracing doesn't make a noticeable difference to lighting.
Real frames > Fake Frames

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@mr.mustaqeem6939
@mr.mustaqeem6939 - 08.01.2025 10:01

So it means Nvidia is just training the AI models feed them with lots of data rather actually enhancing graphics processing capabilities of the gpus that's all DLSS and other Aliasing techniques do isn't it ?

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@ployehh3391
@ployehh3391 - 08.01.2025 10:00

I really want to know if there's any difference in FPS between CNN and Transformer model of upscaling. I hope it will not decrease the performance by making everything look better.

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@SalveMonesvol
@SalveMonesvol - 08.01.2025 09:52

I think my pick would be native resolution, but 2X frame generation, as that should have minimum artifacts, while providing a level of smoothness most CPU's can't deliver.

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@vidsurfer0725
@vidsurfer0725 - 08.01.2025 09:51

Who all wants to rush out and buy a new GPU so we can get 3 times more fake frames with a software change that the base hardware should have been able to handle? Not I... sticking with the 4090 and upgrading my 7800x3d most likely.

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@thescouselander5531
@thescouselander5531 - 08.01.2025 09:50

Fake frames. I'd rather have raw power.

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@Literal32
@Literal32 - 08.01.2025 09:47

Is the frame generator, upscaling and Ray reconstruction just trained on high resolution footage of the same game? Is that why only certain games get it, cause you basically have to provide high end model data by training it with high end native footage?

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@Diablokiller999
@Diablokiller999 - 08.01.2025 09:41

Those were good times when we actually got more execution units to render stuff back in the day.
Now we get fake frames behind somewhat artificial paywalls to justify Nvidias shift to AI architectures.

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@Shahzad12357
@Shahzad12357 - 08.01.2025 09:39

People don't see dlss issues when comparing to fsr/xess but when they compare dlss to newer dlss they just keep finding issues in older dlss? How does that work.

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@ChristopherMoon31415
@ChristopherMoon31415 - 08.01.2025 09:34

Aren't all the new DLSS techs coming to current cards as well? Minus the multi-frame framegen, of course.

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@saintkamus14
@saintkamus14 - 08.01.2025 09:29

Flux is a diffusion model, not transformers.

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@MrDogtown22
@MrDogtown22 - 08.01.2025 09:26

DLSS is garbage. How faster is the 5090 compared to the 4090 at NATIVE 4k is the question everyone wants answered.

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@markf6829
@markf6829 - 08.01.2025 09:26

I bought recently an AMD 7900XTX. I was playing on Native 4K, getting maybe 77-79 fps on Hogwarts legacy, and now playing BG3. Have to say I LOVE NATIVE. But I would swap to an RTX5080 if I was SURE that I could play in Native if I wanted to, and the 16GB concerns me. I get headaches from 3D movies, and I wasnt able to play Ghosts of Tsushima as that gave me headaches. I am thinking Native will be better for me and my bad eyes. I read about Inidiana Jones, and some other games poorly optimized approaching the 16GB limits. I want my card to last 4-5 years. Will 16 GB cut it to 2029-2030? I really think all I want is a native 4K in the 75-80 FPS zone for me to be happy.

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@ThatTempesTGuy
@ThatTempesTGuy - 08.01.2025 09:25

DlSs BeOooOo RaY TRacInG BrOooOoo 🤡 imagine falling for such obvious marketing gimmicks 😂 I bet you fell for hDr too 😂

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@kostihouse
@kostihouse - 08.01.2025 09:24

Looks like it will be worth it to upgrade to 6070 from my 3080. Im gonna start saving money soon.
Meanwhile, im gonna continue playing Portal rtx with dlss performance at 35-55 fps 😂

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@KnightMD
@KnightMD - 08.01.2025 09:22

The amount of Linux people screaming "FAKE BLURRY FRAMES' while their AMD systems produce a blurry mess with FSR's primitive algorithms is too damn high.

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