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Graham your problem is that your nice to people that act in bad faith.
They take advantage of your weakness which is just politeness to you. Why would you accommodate and simp for someone who deliberately bad mouths, insults and ridicules you on the media just to make noise and appeal to the consensus?
This is nonsense the oldest wheel is only 5100 years old, the oldest metallurgy is only 7000 years old, your not proving anything with rowboats from Turkey to Cypress, you completely ignore DNA evidence of Anatolian farmers which spread from golbeki tepi into Europe, you may fool the public but those of us educated in this know you're a fraud
ОтветитьI believe that it takes 10,000 for man to achieve an advance civilization from its conception. I believe that the existence of Homo Sapiens has now been proposed to be 400,000 years. But I also believe it takes 10,000 years of no real major cataclysms for man to achieve an advanced civilization. So in my opinion the possibility could be that there was as many as 39 previous advanced civilizations. But realistically it does seem that catastrophes occur more frequently than 10,000 years. It would probably bring that number down to under 10. If I am right how many of those civilizations achieved space travel?
ОтветитьDibble clearly won that argument otherwise Graham wouldn't have to make a follow up video about it. Pretty simple
ОтветитьRight.. Back to the JRE it is mate.
ОтветитьThis is my logic (I might get chewed up in the comments, but I don't care. I'm open to being questioned and corrected):
1) if modern Homo Sapiens are 300,000 years old, that means Homo Sapiens 300,000 years old had the same capacities as we do (aka realizing the sciences and logic of existence and not surviving like absolute savages by merely hunting and gathering). That alone is enough to freely speculate/conclude that there probably are hundreds of civilizations that are not only unaccounted for, but will never be discovered.
2) finding anything 50,000+ years old is a fucking miracle. For real, there's this mentality that we would be able to find physical evidence of anything that existed, when it's the absolute oppossite. Everything that is not monolithic will have decayed in less than 100,000 years. There will be no evidence of phones, cars, planes, televisions, internet, computers, movies, etc. If this is the case for us, imagine what has already been lost. The actual likeleyhood of advanced civilizations actually existing is pretty damn high, but finding evidence is so impossible that it almost feels like it's forbidden by nature itself (which is something to consider because, at the end of the day, what matters is not all we have and all we know, but rather what is necessary and useful in our contemporary time. So maybe we're not designed to look into the past so much or at least with such obsession).
3) for some reason, powers that be are activelly working towards erasing history and shaping a very specific narrative. This is not a debate or a conspiracy. And it is not specific to just history. People do not consider how expendable they are when they set about to bring a significant change within society that is not within the plans of the upper circles (I'm saying this because we are incredibly lucky to have men such as Graham and Randall pushing hard in spite of all attempts at ridiculing and discrediting them). Men who have tried to bring about better systems of harnessing energy and improving quality of life have been ruined or killed, men who have attempted to break silence of how deep political corruption really goes have been killed or silenced, men who have tried to break the silence of the alleged non-human civilizations with whom we share this world have been killed or silenced, men who have tried to bring awareness of the powers that operate behind and orquestrate world events have been killed or silenced, men that have made amazing discoveries in the field of medicine like cures for cancer have been killed or silenced, etc. The world is not built for us and this has to be aknowledged if one really sets out to find and live in truth.
4) Following on the previous, there is corruption in the world of arqueology and anthropology. If people only knew how much evidence is activelly concealed or straight up dissappeared/disspossed off, they would riot. There would be no more "conspiracies". To those curious, look up the shady history of the Smithsonian and Egyptology in general. Also, I studied arqueology and had great teachers. One in particular of whom I'm incredibly fond off and grateful to have met told us that in the early days of arqueology, a lot of dating did not match with beliefs and theories held at the time. So, instead of reviewing and changing said beliefs and theories, they straight up invented dates and left it at that. Things that were 250,000 years old were crunched down to 25,000 years. And the fucked up thing is that a lot of this was made for things that don'r even make that much sense to cover up at first glance (like pieces of metal thousands of years old before the time when we allegedly discovered metallurgy). These haven't been revized to this day, btw. So literally our current chronological record of human history, at least from 10-12,000 years and back, is one giant larp.
I hope Joe Rogan sees this, and it would be also great if Flint did, or a debate version 2 occurred! Great follow up Graham. I would have been the same way in the face of Flint during the debate. But he is just one opinion, and could have done more to really consider your work!
ОтветитьThe big problem as I see it is that science isn’t advanced by drawing a conclusion then looking for evidence to support it! We must look first at the evidence then see where it leads! Paraphrasing Graham Hancock from Fingerprints of the Gods! There is no ‘conspiracy trying to discredit Graham, that’s a conclusion with no real evidence! Graham is a very entertaining writer and broadcaster. Where he fails is ranting when anyone questions his conclusions!
ОтветитьMy respect for you is now twice as much as it was before the Flint escapade... Please record your books using your own voice for future generations...
ОтветитьGraham Poppycock
ОтветитьEverything exists in the present moment, it's impossible to fact check when you understand this! 😊
ОтветитьI’m so grateful that you put this out today, I was praying that you would just last night
ОтветитьI couldn't watch Dibble... he's a lying toad
ОтветитьI’m so tired of the PC culture trying to use buzzwords in order to twist factual events to their advantage, just so they can confuse people who have a hard time finding the actual facts, into believing the PC cultures twisted worldview opinions.
ОтветитьAh yes,. The ole dibble double down.
ОтветитьYour agrument on shipwrecks doesnt hold water.
ОтветитьGraham "King of the crackpots" Hancock fact checking people?? Good one! 😂😂😂😂 get this trash off my feed
Ответитьseeing as the earth is NOT a spinning ball...the premise of their arguments are wrong..!!!
ОтветитьI for one was more intrigued by Grahams arguments and didn’t learn as much from Dribble. For me, Hancock took the W
ОтветитьYou don't need to defend the racist claims at all it was a rude empty claim only a fool would believe that claim. I've watched documentaries from the 90's that said white people are more advanced because we produce more vitamin d which is ridiculous to me we also burn way easier.
ОтветитьJust like the other quackademics who ask “where’s the potshards “, he’s asking “where’s the shipwrecks “? Like you said Graham, they’d be long disintegrated after 10,000 years.
ОтветитьI watched that episode and I wouldn't agree with your perception of "losing the debate".
He seemed at best a shill and an absolute clown.
Respect to you for offering this response after gathering data and composing it in an easily digestible manner without the need for fanfare.
Flint Dibble. What a name.
ОтветитьGraham, you changed my entire perspective on our history mate, its a rabbit hole i will never forget going down, the "Egyptians" were way ahead of us.
ОтветитьIm a big fan but i skipped the racism part. So tired of everybody being so scared to called out as a racist.
ОтветитьAt first I thought it was supposed to say “fact checking de bible”
Ответитьwhat if ancient civilisations had metal ships,?nothing would remain after a few hundred years let alone thousands of years,same as the technology used to cut stone pre younger dryas,so much we can only wonder at
ОтветитьBravo 👏
ОтветитьDibble is the real life mucinex cartoon chaod booger in an elf hat
ОтветитьScience is about closing your intuition and subjectivity off and analyzing purely based on materialism. The fallen made the ancient ruins, God flooded them out, their souls stuck around, because we interbred with them we also fell, now our 3rd eye is disconnected from God and we have to earn our place with him all over, Jesus is the only way to do it unless you are the ultimate super guru lol (no one is)
ОтветитьDid not feel like anyone won the debate necessarily, however, seeing now how Flint went in not with curiosity but to “take you down” really reinforces my believe in your work Graham. Keep it up, you’re efforts are greatly appreciated!!
ОтветитьFlint Dibble is a flimsy prop for the cult of mainstream archeology. Being willfully ignorant in your scientific efforts to support your narratives is not science, it's obfuscation.
ОтветитьSour grapes. You lost
Ответитьdibble is part of the lies we have always been told as to who and where were at on conveyor belt of life that has occupied this planet for millions of years
ОтветитьI couldnt get through.
ОтветитьExcelent work. Graham
I tried to email you. I think i have an interesting story for you... Only.
Good to hear the truth that reveals the lies that Flint Dribbles.
ОтветитьLook what we have done in the last 3-400 years! Of course early humans built boats!!!!!!
Ответить"Weasel" - a great word to describe Dibble and his ilk.
ОтветитьDon't appologise a narcissist who belives wholly on them selves will always be better at telling lies. Because to them it's the truth. Where as you and rogan are people that listen to others.
ОтветитьIt's alright man smart people saw through it.
ОтветитьFact check Stefan Milo. He has dismantled all your arguments on his channel. He was the reason I stopped listening to quacks like yourself. 😂
ОтветитьGreat work @Graham. Much love to you!
ОтветитьI'm glade that this debate has sharpened your mind, body & soul ! This Flint guy sounds like another woke activist.
ОтветитьDibble treats archaeology as history, Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson treats archaeology as science.
ОтветитьI don't understand why it is unacceptable to question "facts" or the "established" narrative? He sounded like a religious zealot dealing with a heretic. Well done Graham. Keep on questioning! 👏🙏
ОтветитьThe fact that Dibble had to lie and take you out of context is very strong evidence that he knows he's wrong and you're right.
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