Was 2020 election rigged? | Saagar Enjeti and Lex Fridman

Equating “Stop and steal” with NYT’s “Daily Show” is quite a stretch.

Good points, but it's even worse in PA. the governor and SOS in PA sent out mail-in ballots to every registered voter despite the State constitution of PA requiring any such change to voting methods to be made by the legislature, not executive fiat.

I think it's important to acknowledge the lengths we know they did go to to win the election(Russia collusion, hunter laptop, legal cases etc). Now ask yourself how far would they go with that in mind

Is this what masquerades as being 'smart' these days? Lots of book learnin' leaves little time for common sense. I'd like to see either one of these guys get in the breach and face the enemy with real conviction. Put it all on the line instead of walking the fine line of being acceptable.

His argument comes down to syntax. A newer version of "depends on what your definition of what 'is' is."

Mail in ballots, voter ID ,

it was rigged, period

What happened to Biden 81 million voters in 2024?

Yes.

This is not a conversation..this channel is just a conduit for all this pubs to spew their lies and twisted versions…Mental gymnastics

Yes it was. They admitted it in Time magazine.

Negligence and Desperation have created a sycophantic echo chamber in politics,
As a non-affiliate , I have had the luxury and time to study America's Politics the past 5 years.
If you look hard enough and deep enough, you will realize that we are in a Mess of a situation almost beyond Comprehension, and both parties have been answering to Capital Interest mostly, before answering to Citizenry .

Trump is not the Problem, that's for sure... He is simply a Product of his Time

Republicans are out of their goddamn minds if they think the election was rigged. Pretty soon these people need to be dealt sufficiently with because questioning our democratic process is a bridge too far for me.

Obviously it was

Definitely not rigged… a guy with Parkinson’s with a crack head kid getting bribes from foreign companies, got the most votes of any candidate in the history of the United States….. and yes Santa Claus is real….

I don't know... can you prove FDR won? Or JFK? How bout honest Abe?
Got any more completely irrelevant questions that's likely to trigger one-third of the population who values feelings over facts or is this it?

So if you believe everything was fine in 2020 what happened to the over 10 -20 million votes that the Democrats got from last election towards this election?

None of the elections were riggered since 1788.......except for 2020.

Where did the 16+ million more votes Biden got than Hillary in 2016 come from? No one ever even attempts to answer that question. Obama set the record in 2008 with over 70 mil, so Biden got 10 million more than the previous record.
It is not incumbent on me providing evidence there was cheating. With 16 mil more votes (a 25% increase), it is incumbent on you proving they didn't.
Talk about a couple of non-self aware individuals. "High IQ...Low IQ...", it didn't escape me that you both believe the self described "Hi IQ" theory.
I could have just as easily reversed the order and identified your belief as "Low IQ".
With 10s of thousands of affidavits claiming fraud, state house hearings showing evidence in Georgia and Arizona, Wisconsin stopping the count, resuming with adding 100,000 votes for Biden, none for Trump, Philadelphia putting up poster board to hide the "counting" of ballots, etc.... You have to actively NOT be looking to say " I saw no evidence"....just sayin'

Joetato got 23% more votes than Clinton... and now they've all but dissappeared... like magic.

Yes, they are illegitimate ideas. Stop this crap you traitors. You are low IQ bros.

The galaxy brain is that the FBI unconstitutionally coerced Big Tech to censor the laptop story. His galaxy brain isn't rigging, but that is.

No the reality is that we don’t have any explanation as to why Biden had 15 million more votes than barrack Obama and Hilary Clinton which is absolutely not possible. Bigger than that all of the states that flipped over night had a flood of mail in ballots that had no ability to prevent fake ballots from being cast. For me the fact that all of those states that flipped did so at night and that basically none of the votes that were counted went to trump is just statistically impossible.

Shananags were all over that 2020 election.

Rigged, Unfair? It’s all ceramics.

From eny point of view, 2020 waa not rigged.

“Russel Crowe did a great job delivering that line in a Showtime miniseries” was such an unexpected phrase in the gravity of their conversation

Well I'm a liberal and this is the first time listening to you and we need more common sense conservatives like you. I think we agree on a lot of things and will start listening to you as long as you stay away from the bullshit conspiracy theories and lies

I don’t think you give the low IQ theory enough credit. There were numerous anomalies reported that election night and the following day that had people seen happen in a different context would likely have come to a different conclusion. Say if the same anomalies happened in McCains favor in 2008; how many would have been up in arms about voter fraud. However I go under the assumption for anything in life of 1 anomaly is mathematically probable, 2 anomalies is coincidence, 3 or more outside interference and warrants speculation.

Saager is not as smart as I thought he was.

Total votes cast back to 2008. Appears about 20M extra votes in 2020. You tell me.

2024 = 138.83
2020 = 155.5
2016 = 128.83
2012 = 126.85
2008 = 129.45

"Interfered" is in between "rigged" and "unfair", and is the most easily provably assertion about 2020. So they're quibbling about words here when the general answer is yes. BTW, the Dems claimed (and still do) there was interference in the 2016 election but the press never question them about their conspiracy theory.

Of course the 2020 election was rigged, stolen, use whatever word you want. I watched it with my own eyes. I’ve watched elections since Reagan in 1980. NEVER have any states STOPPED VOTE COUNTING ON ELECTION NIGHT!!! The democrats used mail in votes to install Biden as president. When it. Was clear Trump was running away with the elections swing states, the party bosses in key cities stopped counting votes. Then Trump absolutely called it that we’d see truck loads of mail in ballots for Biden. Full stop. Anyone saying anything else is either blind or intellectually dishonest.

So you’ll agree that the entire system was actively working against Trump with their hands on all levers of power, but you won’t call it rigged. THEN WHAT QUALIFIES AS RIGGED?!?!?!

Millions of illegals voted in 2020

Assuming his “high IQ stop the steal” theory was correct republican legislators though republican in name may still have had motives to remove Trump.

"Trump won't tell you that" - he literally told us that in his rogan interview

Digging this Dan Carlin love at the end.

15 million votes.

Im an independent, and im 100% convinced covid gave them the opportunity to forge votes. If you think otherwise, you're either brainwashed or just too afraid to admit it for whatever reason.

It was rigged from big tech, at the very least. Don't need to prove anything else

Sagaar is SO wrong about PA - the state Senate conducted a hearing after the 2020 election revealing late night ballot drops and multiple ballots going to the same address.
The PA State Sup Court was an activist court controlled by leftists, who Allowed ballots to be Counted 3 DAYS After the election in direct violation of the PA State Constitution!
Sagaar is controlled opposition - ignore him.

I've actually believed "Galaxy brain" long before anyone was saying it. That election was so close that the FBI's and press's thumbs almost certainly typed the scales. Just the Hunter Biden laptop some might have been enough of a scandal to create a Trump win. (I am not a Trump fan fwiw. I also hate the incessant wining that has occurred from both losing sides since 2000.)

Edit: On the discussion of population brainwashing near the end of the video -- Sagaar's Breaking Points used to be a good model for getting opposing views on current news, but it's not really anymore, which disappoints me. Rising (where Sagaar and Krystal came from with the same format) remains true to this model and is a much better place to get opposing views presented in earnest. News Nation is also a very balanced media channel with a mission to stay that way. Even Cuomo has to temper himself and be dinner in representing both sides.

Letting a presidential candidate ramble his narcissism for 45 mibutes without interfering coz Lex wouldnt do a good job is crazy. Hes been having great interviews and at least some relevant questions and going in to depth would have been good. I think it was instructed not to, unless anything good can be asked to portray him nicely.

I live in PA. Your presentation of the "big brain" theory conveniently left out the fact that the changes made to our voting laws in response to covid violated our constitution. Our state constitution reserves that power to the state house, but the changes were illegally made by our radically leftwing governor. I can't speak for all the swing states, but the electoral votes Biden got from PA were legally illegitimate. This is an undeniable fact. You should stop trying to mislead people when you talk about this issue.

To say that parties "influenced" the election by placing their thumb on the scales of the 2020 vote negates the possibility of direct and unlawful fraud is a simplistic and binary theory. The two things are not mutually exclusive to one another and the Democrats were smart enough not to reply on a single approach to secure the outcome they wanted. To that end, I believe that both events happened in tandem as a belt and braces methodology of ensuring the desired outcome.

the short answer is of course it was