"Centrists" Are Just Right-Wing - Destiny

Centrists and moderates do not seem to be expected to actually have a position of their own in these conversations no matter what the platform. I get that no one official is speaking for the middle but someone who does sit in the middle should be able to articulate their own solutions. I am personally not convinced a moderate American exists, I think you have either disaffected Americans or people comfortable with the status quo. Neither of those people have a vision to articulate, they just don't want to be part of the conversation.

"right now the the right is entirely divorced from reality". and they won, deal with it, L

Destiny fundamentally is mis representing what moderate or non partisan is. People who think this way, are rooting for tribalism. I have a few views that agree with the left and a few that agree with the right. So I'm not leaning either way.

This is a really interesting conversation, mostly because Alex O'Connor is a pretty intelligent guy, and the smartest thing about Destiny is that he took the name of 24% of 1990's strippers.

”Every once in a while, there's a day with an absolute right and an absolute wrong. But those days almost always include body counts.” - President Bartlet
Notice even when talking about absolute right & wrong, the script couldn’t commit to him to an absolute time frame? Yay nuance!
People shit on the centre because they misrepresent it as faking “fair & balanced”. The centre isn’t where you end on a given topic, it’s where you start. View objectively, assess critically, compare factually & don’t be afraid to land where the evidence brings you because it’s part of one side’s checklist.
It’s simple, but far from easy. Bias is a bitch!

Wow……it is truly hard to believe that this dude “Destiny” —or Mr. Bonelli per Dr. Norman Finkelstein— says the kind of stuff as in the first 2 minutes if this video and expects to be taken seriously.

Jim Hightower: "The only thing in the middle of the road is a yellow line and dead armadillos". Quote from the days when there were liberals from Texas.

Oh look, Destiny is making mouth-noises again

Making internet access accessible to normies was a mistake.

"I don't want to be on either team"
"Oh so you are on the Red team!"
What the fuck? This is insanity.

I have never seen a jaw move like it’s completely detached from temporomandibular joints. What is the reason, drugs? Gay sex? Cucking?

Iam left leaning but is against illegal immigrants with exception, but I will never call myself because I might be centrist or even right on few issues because my core values are left leaning

Destiny portrays himself as someone who isn't bigoted and then uses a bigoted term? He definitely seems like someone worth listening to.

His example of immigration is a poor one because it impacts a lot more than the economics of a country. (Culture, for one thing.)

I am independently CENTRIST, Very definitively NEITHER Right nor Left. I agree with some things on both sides and disagree with somethings from both sides.

Why is it so hard for liberals to believe that anyone would be centrist without it being a cover for being conservative. I would say I still lean left because the right wing is terrible. But that doesn’t mean I particularly agree with or like the far left either. Moderates do exist in large numbers for honest, valid reasons. I think more focus should be on the fact that democrats ARE the more moderate party. They have some crazy fringe, but republicans are just straight up bad people these days.

Why do people platform destiny? He's very biased, and not as smart as he thinks he is. Dunning-Kruger effect.

If you go far out enough on one side of the spectrum, you will find the middle more and more awful

Apolicitalness is not about making unbiased political opinions or taking the mean political opinion on the overtone window, it’s about not engaging with political opinions to the maximum reasonable extent

We don’t need to learn or be advised by someone with a necklace like that.

He is so aragont! I know he could never see it but hes a fascist. He basically just said you are either with us or against us, there is no time for questioning anything. I mean how can he not see this!

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In my opinion, the MAIN problem with this guy is his blindness to the idea that NO ONE agrees with every plank in either political party.. To think of (categorize) moderates or even independents as all alt right, well, it is a lack of wisdom, I think.. There are indistinct lines separating politically inclined folks that make rigid generalized classifications naieve at best..Peace.

Kindof funny cuz destiny is himself a centrist

I absolutely detest destiny

Why did you even bother to interview this guy? What an absolute muppet.

This seems to hit close to home for a lot of people in this comment section

So it’s binary? Huh

I witnessed what D. says with a co-worker. For a year she spouts Fox News ideology and decries anything "the left" does or says as "communist" . Then one day she tells me her views are actually "centrist" and she is a moderate. I feel that she must have picked that up from Fox or some other right-wing outlet in their attempt to shift the Overton Window to the hard right.

JJ McCullough is a pretty good example of how to state facts without averaging out value judgements from either side.

That's a surprisingly dumb take. I mean if you limit it to talking heads / influencers / podcasters then maybe but even then you're overgeneralizing, but if he actually means this for just random, normal, every-day people then this is just drivel. Being non partisan is not that hard when you have no actual stake in the success of any party or organization and you just want to live a normal life and participate in a democracy to whatever extent is necessary to achieve that end. I mean even if all you're doing is saying that both sides sicken you with their craziness, their lies and their obvious corruption and you would be ashamed to attach yourself to any politician or party then that's totally justified.

EvErYoNe WhO DiSaGrEeS WiTh mE iS a NaZi !!!!!11!

i lose brain cells whenever i listen to this guy speak. it's an "us vs them" worldview for this guy. no nuances whatsoever. centrists like myself like to weigh arguments from both sides. i often find might myself unable to completely agree with either side because either both sides are totally crap, or both have valid points. destiny mostly represents the worst of the left: willing ignorance, ironic bigotry, and self-proclaimed moral superiority with constant virtue-signaling. the reason why his reputation was unscathed by the nick fuentes stuff is because it just can't go any lower. it's like that episode of south park where wendy beats the shit out of cartman and no one cares bc he's already as vile as he could get.

Isn't Sam Harris a pretty good example of a centrist who swings slightly left?

This type of stance is why Destiny cannot be taken seriously anymore.

Funny how you are always forced into a position even when you don’t take on yourself

Destiny.... put the crack pipe down, brother.... holy shyt, son. 😂😂😂😂😂

You heard it out of HIS mouth.... dDestiny dont care about colored ppl.... 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Im actually non partisan....
I support freedom, not parties.

Alex.... i told u about that moustache...

lol this feels so framed at the triggernomotry guys

Being non-partisan does not mean that you have to see both sides equaly. Being non-partisan can or better should mean that you judge both sides the same way. And if one side does something that's arguably worse than the other, you sould judge it as such. But very often you see those claiming to be "non-partisan" saying there would be equally bad or equally good things on both sides of the argument. Kinda like when Trump says "There are good people on both sides" when he's talking about one side being full of neo-nazi protesters. That's not being non-partisan.

This guy is just getting more and more unhinged as time goes by. I wonder if he even hears himself speak.

Simply amazing! How one header/statement can paint such an accurate picture of left wing ideology.
If they aren't lefty, they are right.

He really has a warped view of what it means to not align yourself completely with a cult. He is completely absorbed by the ideology he subscribes to and it shows when he says that the right is completely divorced from reality. That is an extremely bold statement that shows clear bias among other things.

Also have to keep in mind that when a person like Joe Rogan is facing opposition primarily from the left, from mainstream left leaning slander, it's no shock at all that he will find himself leaning away from that. Dosent mean he's completely conservative, just that he's being forced away from the left and their ideologies.

I agree with Destiny. Being "centrist" just means you're a hard right Trumpanzee.

Is immigration good or bad?he then goes on to say that he has to get an economist's opinion on it, and that he needs a colour blind analysis.
So he has economic values above all else.

A person with racial concerns would say, whatever is good for the wellbeing of my race.

Destiny is a girls name