TV's Are Taking Over Home Theater Projectors

Still have a long way to go. If you want an average picture it's $10000 for a projector and a $10000 screen. I wanted to upgrade my projector and screen, but I think I will be fine to weight for a display for the right price.

🫣 🛑 Stop 🛑 Lying!!!!

The Projector Market is Not even slightly affected by Junk 100 inch TV's.

For a Decent 85 inch TV You will pay at least $4,000.00. sure you can buy Junk for around $2000.00 but people who are into Home Theaters know Not to Buy Junk TV'S.

People with Home Theaters Typically have at Least a 120 inch Screen. 150 Inch Screens are about the average Size. The High End Home Theaters have at Least a 200 inch Screen.

The Top End Home Theater's Actually have 500 inch Screens.

The TV's you are Talking about up to 115 inches are Not Even Available in the USA 🇺🇸

Large Screen TV's are Extremely Easy to Damage in Shipment.

70 inch TV's have a Very High Percentage of Cracked Screens on Delivery.

Hisense has a $5000.00 100 inch TV for Sale in the USA and Shipping is Not Free.

Hisense are Junk TVs I don't care about All the CES Hype from their Marketing Teams.

Hisense are the Most returned TV'S sold. They are poorly Manufactured and have a High Failure Rate.

I bought a 70 inch Top of the Line Model Hisense TV a few years ago and it was Damaged in Shipping. I had to return it. I got a Replacement and the Picture Quality was Horrible. It was completely washed out and had a Green tinge to it. It was Unwatchable.

There are No 115 inch TV'S for Sale in the USA 🇺🇸 so this Video is Click Bait.

A 115 inch TV would cost well over $20,000.00.

I agree 100% I would love a 100” OLED! The issue with anything outside of OLED exposure to blue light will be always problematic!

How big is your room? The average living room size ranges from 180 to 350 square feet (16.7 to 32.5 m2). Do you have a wall that can fit a 100" TV? Some suggest to sit closer depending on resolution. Currently 65" - 85" are more popular, which would suggest rooms/walls can accommodate larger screens. Make it so...

Modular TV panels imo is where the market will be to attain the very large sizes people seek. Reduces the shipping complexity to have a single large panel and will allow people to expand out (pun intended) to the wider aspect ratios.

Until they come out with a 120" OLED tv for $4000, I will stick with my UST with 120" ALR setup.

Great content again. Just a question from a different video of yours… when using the Denon “pre-out” mode is there a sound difference between 4800, 6700, 8500? I currently have the 4700, and considering to make the jump up. Thanks

A 100" TV still looks better than a projector at 100 inches.

Doesn't really matter how "great" the picture quality gets to me. At a certain point, the tv or solid display wall will be so large that the sheer distance in physical separation of the front left/right (and probably center) will be great enough that it will make the sound noticeably worse. Even with extreme toe-in, the left & right channels will be so far apart that it'll be very audible and distracting.

Even with some innovation of down-firing speakers from the ceiling to try and overcome this (seen in Shane's video of the 80 inch subwoofer), it'll never match the proper audio placement and quality of having the speakers (and therefore the sound) coming straight out of the screen like it's supposed to.

From having played with this myself, the largest solid screen I'd be comfortable with for sound separation is an 83 inch. Any larger than that and it's too noticeable for sound separation and I'd need an AT screen.

Indeed. Peace!

I’ve been saying this for years about TV taking over. The only spanner will be power consumption as this may stop very large TV as 8k resolution seems to be falling foul of this in Europe

Once you get above 100inch you really need to switch to multiple panels. A 100 inch is pretty well 8ft the width of a semi trailer. Joining 4x 60inch or 70inch panels to make a 120inch or 140inch display.

In a lot of rooms there's nowhere to put a center channel with a large flat panel. If I put a large flat panel in my HTR then center channel would either be on the ceiling or only about 20" off the floor. Since I want my sound to be correct as well, I'll stick with a projector and AT screen as long as possible. Plus, I like running a 2.40:1 AR.

Don is 100% right.
People who buy UST, are to replace small TVs with a bigger "TV". They don't care about audio, they want big image. These 100-115 inch TVs are gonna replace UST projectors.
There will always be people who like are gonna be 90% image quality 10% audio, they will go with TV and put a soundbar pointing at their feet.
and there will be people who are gonna be 50% image quality and 50% audio, these people will buy projectors with AT screens.
If you buy a projector and you don't have an AT screen so you can put the speakers where they SHOULD be, 2/3 the height of the image ? What is wrong with you, get a TV.

Hello Shane. Will you be doing a review on the 4K releases of Aliens, The Abyss and True Lies? I have come to mirror your opinions on 4k reviews and am hoping for some good numbers.

The reliability of these TVs in consumer reports isn’t great could be dead in 5 years then you gotta recycle it better off buying Sony Samsung Lg

I have a 85”/110” dual aspect drop down screen that I set up with my old 1080p set up that had an anamorphic lens. I work for a bit for profit so I’m not exactly drowning in disposable income, so when I upgraded to 4K I went with a 75” Sony TV, since native and even true/pixel shifter projectors are just outside a reasonable budget in my opinion. The whole idea of spending so much money for fewer features just rubs me the wrong way. MadVR is just out of my budget too. But to each their own.

What are your thoughts on centre speaker placement with say a 120in TV in future? That is the main hurdle I see coming from my 140in AT screen with large floor standing centre behind it. The centre would have to go at shin/knee level to fit if you don’t have high ceilings.

They'd have to make an acoustically transparent TV before a lot of us out there would consider it

I’ll wait until those 100+” tv’s also have good enough sound coming from the screen to realistically emulate the LCR that would be behind an acoustically transparent screen. For now, 77” oled for daily, sports, and gaming…125 inch acoustically transparent projector screen for movies.
AND thank you! Great to see the progression unfold!

Thank you to Hisense and TCL for making large TVs more affordable! I want a 97” OLED for $5,000 and I will trade in my projector. The problem with JVC and Sony laser projector is that they are so expensive and they basically have pushed a lot of people out from projector systems! Are any of you Ophthalmologist to speak about eye fatigue 😂

All of my Home Theater iterations since 1999, have been CRT, rear projection, plasma, and OLED base screens. We purchased a new home 3 years ago and I decided to make my very first home theater with a front projector. My room size is 11.5 ft x 17 ft. I have two rows of seating. I have an NZ8 with a Stewart Screen that is AT. I absolutely love the clean look of not seeing the speakers at all and it saves me so much room! I truly feel that I’m in a personal commercial theater.

I am not sure I would ever want to go with a large display screen like a micro LED or OLED. If we ever moved and I’m redesigning a home theater in the next 10 years, then maybe I would consider it and plan for it. But not in this room, that’s for sure.

The projector image always look more natural and easy for the eyes.
Never a TV will give the same experience no matter of the size or price.

Myself I Believe 75" Is as big as you need...
Because I noticed going even up to 85" the images & the people look warped to me...

That feeling when your screen is 200+ inches 😔

I would agree the market is indeed going to change. Change is the one constant in the world.

I suppose there’s always someone who will argue picture quality is as good, or good enough from a projector. So many dynamics. Those aside, for me to switch back to a TV/Monitor, I would want better accommodations for multi aspect ratios

Big tvs (>85”+) are nice. But I love 120-150”+ projectors. “No replacement for displacement!”. However, the lack of large 4k/120 (HDMI 2.1) projectors at an attractive price is a problem for gaming and movie enthusiasts. I bought an 85” Hisense U8K (4k/120; 1,500 nits) on BF for $1,800, and it is spectacular! Fantastic for next gen gaming, sports, and 16:9 tv consumption. It will meet my needs for years to come. But, it does leave the door open for a 150” drop down scope screen and 4k anamorphic projector solution to be added later when the costs drop. I won’t need 4k/120 in that projector (but would love it!), as I am going with a two part solution ( because a one part solution doesn’t exist at a fair price, yet).

So, in my basement theatre I have a low ceiling where I just don’t have the headroom for a projector and my raised rear row of theatre seats. I have room for a 100” screen. Right now I have a Sony 85” tv. I am upgrading to the 100” Hisense!

I'm in the same boat , currently I use a budget 4k *HDR??) Viewsonic Projector on 135 inches screen , picture quality is kind of ok but a 115 4k Dolby Vision HDR Tv will crush the image quality on any projector and the best part you don't need to wait until night arrive or spend big money on expensive ALR screen when you can watch a movie anytime with your 100 inches and plus 4K TV

When TVs get to an actual size to rival most people's projector screens, you won't be able to get them through the front door, let alone manoeuvre them into the movie room... Roll-up TV screens and modular TV screens may be the future for hardcore AV fans, but not relatively small LCD TVs like this. For the masses, sure, it's a great way to get a big image in the living room. For a dedicated theatre room of even a fairly modest size, no way. Just my opinion.

The ONLY reason I have a projector is for the 3D, so unless 3DTVs are becoming that big and that cheap then I'm definitely not considering a TV

i had to return a 65" sony because it was shutting off every 30min ... it was a hassle to dismount it off the wall and bring it back ... hate to try that with a 100" + tv

most 100+ inch tvs will not fit going down stairs to a basement with a landing then a turn where most guys have a HT , unless you have a walkout or straight stairs going down.. hey unless they put the tv in the living room ... then hey..

hey if these 100" tv bring down projector prices ...im all for it ...i am rocking a 1080p projector and if projectors drop i will buy a 4k projector

The projector in a domestic situation is done for. I like projectors and have had them for decades but the rationale for them is changing rapidly as the economics change for flat panels and LED arrays. Future generations may see projectors of all types as a curiousity from another time. Like having a Kodak 35mm slide projector now, just ask my kids.

I still want 3-D for my existing collection. Still fun to watch every once in a while. I also prefer the reflected image I bought a 77 inch OLED, and returned it because of it being way too bright in a blacked out room.

I agree with Don, however I need my AT screen.

Projectors have terminal cancer it’s just about how long of a life they have before 145” oleds come down in price and then game over

this is interesting. Tjoooo.

Hmm, you know what I am waiting for, is a Dolby vision capable projector, but I could also buy another big tv, I’m talking about a tv bigger then 100” I’m coming from a 75 inch tv, which is not bad, by any means, but I want a bigger tv, if they make them that big, for I don’t see the blooming issue people complain about with a regular led tv…. So right now I will stick with a led, or I may venture into the oleds, or I should say the QD oleds, assuming Sony continues to make one with Dolby vision… for if Sony stops making a qd oled, before they make a great led tv, with almost no blooming then I will be upset…

I’d rather have a 85’ tv with bright Dolby Vision for my modern shows streaming that I watch constantly then a dim 120’ projector that barely gets 10-bit color but the highlights are just like a painting on a picture. The only thing projectors have is CinemaScope screen with speakers 🔊 behind the screen. That’s it. Color belongs to tvs like sony and samsung.

Until you can do 150 inches with acoustically transparent ability that can fit through the halls and doors for under$20K, then it's apples and oranges.

@shanelee I just got the Hisense 100’ U76. I’m hoping that it’s not a lemon. I’ve seen reviews saying it’s a fifty/fifty chance of getting a great display. My finger are crossed 🤞🏻 though as some people have said that it looks amazing. I will give my honest opinion on this once it gets installed.

I'm a 3D enthusiast with a very large collection of Blu-ray movies. I would not consider replacing my projector unless these TV's are 3D capable.

I've had a projector since 1993 and I love my current 4K 110" setup but instead of upgrading my projector, I'm buying a 110+" TV next upgrade.

I respect Don’s experience but to me having the center speaker at ear height is really important. Once you get a 98” tv, your center channel is going to be on the floor. There’s no way I’d be ok with that.

preach don

Hisense and Barco are coming with a new UST. Light steering. Supposed to be better than PJs blacks but a touch behind OLEDs. That could be the real competition. BTW I have a TCL 98 QM8. Barely fit down my stairs and my ceiling being 7 ft wont spport a PJ. Hope Hisense and Barco come through.
Just my 2 cents.

I'd happily adjust my center channel position for a better Large TV. AT screens aside .. I would enjoy this for my gaming content more than I'd have to spend in a projector to get this level 4k 120hz in a projector.