Aussie battery company reveals 30% cheaper sodium home batteries

To use desalinated water you would have to run the reverse osmosis concentrate trough a brine concentrator to convert it into salt. It's probably cheaper to use salt drying beds.

Enjoy the channel, but please stop calling ChatGPT answers “predictions”. They’re not and it undermines your credibility to say that they are. It’s just creating plausible text based on its models. Every other battery tech has gotten cheaper over time, so of course it says sodium batteries will too. That’s probably right, but not because ChatGPT knows something you don’t.

Sounds like time to make an American battery company with a similar plan.

Small systems that can be user installed would be nice. Even with solar panels for 12 years we still had the grid go down for 2 hours one night here in SE Qld. A small system to keep our 240VAC LED lights on and run the fridge for 1/2 a day would be nice.

well done PowerCap! looking forward to getting a safe and sustainable sodium-ion battery installed in my new off-grid home in 2025!! :)

10 kWh home storage battery is way too little. It is somewhow antisocial to supply fluctuating energy to the grid from your solar panels.

Another great report. You are a success Aussie.

I have 4.8 kw lithium phosphate batts for 4 yrs now. $2k. I will double it in the new year for $1600.

Sodium batteries don't last long. Maybe cheaper at purchase but not over the life-time

Does this guy understand what an AI search/query really is??? FFS

Sodium should be so much cheaper than Lithium but is the price of Na or Li really a significant part of the price of a battery. How much is it actually.

Sodium ion's voltage range doesnt suit any current inverter tech yet, not really suitable for home storage yet..
Grid ,: yes
Car : yes
Home no

That chatgpt just deems to be a content aggregator as opposed to a free thinker. Ie it just spills out search results and pretends that it's own work.

That we should need to generate and store our own electricity seems really regressive and another policy failure by our politicians.

When are we going to get real and abandon electric power sources as a viable alternative?

Keep up the good work lets hope we can buy aus made with the help of AI and bots going forward

A startup selling batteries for 30% in an industry that needs super high volumes to be cheap, sadly sounds like wishful thinking...

Do not use ChatGPT as a source - there goes your credibility.

fire safe sodium batteries. hop so. the world need more safe batteries.

Sam, another great video. I've pondered for a long time on why the cost per kwh for home batteries is so much higher than car batteries given the latter need to be impact resistant, weather resistant and lighter. Then i watched your video on the profit made on each Tesla megapacks and realised it's simple lack of competition. Whilst the car manufacturers are fighting for survival making cheaper and better EVs, home batteries solutions are lagging behind. If the home battery price could drop from $12k per 10kwh (tesla pw3) to $1k per 10 kwh or $100 per kwh which is still close to twice the cost of car batteries so many homes could be 100% energy independent.

This new home battery solution could be the start of a home battery war which will be great for consumers and the planet.

So yet again the Australian government has managed to kill Australian technology by refusing to support it .
When Red energy is sold to a foreign company then every Australian government will be crawling over each other to buy them so we can export as much Australian money as possible .
Carbon copy of MemTech
One would have thought that after 3 major grid battery fires during construction the few extra dollars for a Flow Cell Battery would have been a sound investment .
But hey it is Australian so it must be garbage unless a foreign government buys it .
This only goes to show how ignorant & stupid the clowns that people elect to government are .
Yet they carry on day after day how vital it is for students to go into STEM and then torpedo every business that attempts to grow from local technology .

The Na battery start up will no doubt suffer the same fate with every Australian government from Canberra to local councils doing everything they can do to ensure that every local venture fails while they continue to bend over backwards to give foreign companies free access to Australia resources ( no royalties or taxes ) on the pretext that they are "creating jobs" for Australians .
This is a tragedy and of course kills off research into energy storage in Australia because bright minds see the bill boards that say "NO FUTURE FOR YOU IN AUSTRALIA MATE "

Great video Sam, sodium is going to be massive in home and grid storage.

Nore will it burn your house down unlike lithium ion batteries.

Great to hear about your home battery plan
I am interested to see which energy supplier you choose and why
Gret show Greg

Did they solve the slow transition times of the sodium ions as compared to lithium?

South Australia used to have a desalination plant for water - it’s now full of solar panels - could be restarted ?

This is awesome news. I have a battery ready solar system and have had for the last 3 years (before that i had an old school grid tied system). However the cost of batteries has put me off. I knew that eventually the price of batteries would come down and i was particularly keen on the idea of sodium batteries for the lower cost price. So if they come to market, id be pretty keen to check out their offering, especially if they had modular batteries, whereby i started with perhaps 2 kw Modules and then added extra modules over time as needed or when budgets allowed.

ITS A SET UP WHITE MAN YOU LOOSE

GO SMOKE A CIGAR

Governments get involved costs quadruple

all I need now is for the sodium battery to be available for sale before I kick the bucket, whats the odds

30% cheaper than rivals, made in Australia. Make elsewhere for another 30%? Total 50% cheaper.

Wow, great to see some old tech getting off the ground after such a long time.

Yeah Na!

This sounds like an ad for a company wanting investment………and then going broke with your hard earned cash!!

AI that is accessible to the public at this stage is basically just a glorified predictive text machine. I wouldn't put much faith in the answers it provides :/

What is the name of the Aussie battery company building sodium ion batteries

Don’t let the government touch a funk thing that you don’t want fukd

How do they compare to Lithium batteries wrt bursting into fire?

I wouldn't mind a dollar for every "revolutionary" battery technology that was going to shake things up, but instead just quietly went away. Think I'll believe this one when I see it.

The market is always to small in Australia 🇦🇺! Bought out

Damn, I was looking forward to Redflow batteries. 10kw that lasted forever. Fire proof as well. We'll probably be able to buy one from China now. Australia doesn't invest in new tech or car manufacturing.

i look at these new cells, and then I look at Janus electricals battery swap system for heavy transport trucking is about to get a clean green safer new life. Personally, I think carmakers should reassess battery swapping.

Well, that is fine if you live on a place where the sun actually shines a lot. I just spoke with a customer of mine who installed a CN $ 25,000.00 solar project on his roof here in Alberta, Canada. For now about 8 weeks he practically had no input whatsoever and no battery lasts that long. Why? Well, there is winter and it snows. At most places, unfortunately, the whole thing makes only sense for the individuum, if the government subsidizes it, which means taking money away from others to support you.

Off grid, almost 100% now for over 12 years in Hawai'i, it was lead acid to start. It worked but with huge and heavy downsides. Then I switched 3 years ago to LiFePo. With still no appreciable decline in storage and the ability to dip into it a bit more when needed, it's been a great big improvement. Looks like they might last forever but I appreciate your update on Na. Maybe my next upgrade. I love living off-grid... 🤩

Biggest issues I see for domestic adoption:
1. Cost, upfront cost
2. Inverter compatibility, any useful broad-use battery solution needs to be compatible with a number of inverter types, at least industry-leading inverter manufacturers...
3. Ideally, stackable capacity. It's pretty easy to determine core "off-supply" ie. overnight electricity consumption. This will vary from home to home, and potentially over time as a household's needs grow & change.

Interesting

Installed a 12v sodium ion battery in my Tesla. No issues so far