HEATED DEBATE: Rollo vs. Ruslan On The State of Manhood | SOSCAST | EP 47

this is educational gold right here. thanky you gentleman for your work, God bless

Rollo doesn’t strike me as a believer in Jesus Christ

Abraham had Hagar, not Rachel, you punk! Read your bible. Ruslan is too idealistic and not based in reality. There is what should be and what IS. at least he admits Rolo made good points and agrees with him lots. Rollo was great here. Ruslan wanted to attack without context or understanding the background and reasoning of Rollo's books. Rollo did great to explain and Ruslan talked too much when he thought he got him. He didn't. Everybody wants a piece of the Manosphere Red pill because it's hot until they understand red pill is not an ideology but a praxiology. I would love to see Ruslan go after the fraudulent pastors or hip "pastors" and the weak churches who cant even tell you how many genders are there or not going against the lockdowns or "vaccine". Actually stand their ground. They're breeding weak men too. Call the demonic out! It's not just mainstream society. Churches are feminized nowadays. Yaz queen and always blaming men.

Is Ruslan, Destiny's brother ? LOL

Ruslan is giving emotional arguments.

Hate Adam. But love ruslan and rollo. FUCK Adam is a loser

Body count is a dumb concept. People want different things at different points in their life.

Haha the religious guy on the right said "the ppl who wait till marriage marry in their Early 20's and become 6 figures? Bahahahahaha.
Why would they become 6 figure ppl lol

Fan of ruslan!!

"Live chat replay is not available for this video." which is why i will never sub to the griftcast

On Father's Day for men,at my church, being of service to the women, as if it were mothers Day. My previous church community, I was part of years ago, had it down consistently. Mothers Day, men service the women. Fathers Day, women service the men.

thought rollo was a dumb ass but i know he is now finding out he believes the jesus story.

Men have been feminized for three generations. The estrogen from our drinking water recycling the birth control pills women pee, plus mothers influencing their sons resulting in weak beta males.

In talking about Tate maybe you’re overlooking that he may have been hurt when he was younger, so his lifestyle is his protection mechanism

Ruslan, it wasn't Rachel, it was Hager

Didn’t know this exist. I listen to both for years. Thank you Valuetainment!

Also Rollo is really afraid of taking a personal stance on anything. Bc he is afraid that it would lock him in and he wants to not be locked in to any particular framework for thinking about things.

Sounds like a moral relativist. But he says he believes in Jesus.. which is super deceiving. Bc he’s afraid of aligning with biblical truths.

Also, I wouldn’t touch Tate with a 10 ft pole.. high value is objective- I agree. I see that in the world he is a “high value man.” But there is nothing beautiful in him to me. No love in his heart. No wisdom, no virtue… he is so rich, yet so poor at the same time.

So my point in saying this is that he’ll win in the world, but there are women he’s going to lose with. And nothing he’s investing in has any eternal value. So is he really winning?

Also, Rollo is KILLING ME by brushing off everything moral/virtuous as being untenable…

It’s just such a petulant thing to say. Like morality has NEVER been easy. There is a brokenness to human nature that has been there from the beginning of time- “the way is narrow that leads to eternal life and few will find it.” That’s in the Bible.. this isn’t new. There’s nothing new under the sun.. more access. More immorality. The social acceptance of it surely makes choosing the right thing even more difficult.

But nothing is impossible with God. If you believe in Jesus, and it makes a difference in your life, this has to be where you land. And it will be if the Holy Spirit is guiding you. The Holy Spirit will never convict you that an institution created by God is “untenable.” Sounds a lot like the voice of the evil one to me…

Hasn’t he been there since the beginning of time to make humans question if what God says is good? This is Eve in the garden. This is not new, Rollo. This isn’t the result of some profound philosophical thinking you’re doing. It’s as simple as you’re not fully convinced of the goodness of God (natural), and so you’re susceptible to the lies of the evil one who desires to destroy every good thing from above…

Salvation, marriage, love among men and women, family.

I’m also noticing that they aren’t talking about love at all- they’re pretty exclusively referring to children as being the benefit of marriage, which is bothering me. I’m not far enough in yet, though. Will comment if this changes.

Image being Rollo’s wife and hearing him say that he would never get married in the current circumstances of our culture if he found himself a widow…

Like he’s basically knocking the crap out of marriage, without recognizing that SHE is marriage to him… the desire for security in your marriage and to know that it wasn’t a regret for your partner is so strong in a woman. He would be the most hurtful kind of partner to have..

Rollo, as a man in his late 50’s should have more wisdom IMO. Ruslan who is so much younger seems so much wiser.

These guys are morons. The "energy" rollo is talking about is consciousness, which is god, which is what is within you that is listening to this chat right now. You dont exist, youre an idea in your head that you believe in because you identify with the thoughts (which you have no control over) that pop into your head. Don't believe me? Let go of all struggle and see what remains...I'll ruin the surprise for you, its pure consciousness. There you go, you're free forever, unless you choose not to be, which I'm sure you'll choose, because 99.999999% of people choose that. Enjoy your life of strife and struggle 😂

Ruslan got into rollos a** 😂 Ru don’t care lol

I'm here because of my brother in Christ, Ruslan.

So happy Ruslan is being heard on platforms like this. I know he plants so many seeds in ppls minds.

Don’t let this guy scare you into not getting married. Strong men overcome obstacles, they don’t run away from them.

If we all love God in our hearts. We wouldn't want to be sexually immoral. God > the world. Don't be afraid of loneliness and rejection bros. A good wife is a gift from the Lord.

Ruslan is more focused on furthering his Christian ideals than seeing the reality that Rollo is highlighting.

I'm fucking sick of these God damn nick names on all these dick bags. Use your real normal person name. Fucking sick of it.

Ruslan is an idiot. Doesn't understand the RP.

If you refuse to wait until marriage for the sexual embrace, you're not Christian. If you have so little discipline that you can't wait, you're nothing more than a meat puppet.
*For Christians or those claiming Christianity. If you're not Christian, I won't answer as I don't consider your opinion valuable.

Rollo is a "Brotian" not a "Christian". Don't call yourself a "Christian" if you are teaching heresy or false beliefs. If you're Christian, you are obligated to obey Jesus.

He is dangerous but FnF are worse

Thank you Ruslan for bringing up the fact that women are vulnerable.

Yes Ruslan! Strength training, mentors, accountability, skill building, relationships, networks!! More of this!!

Rollo is 100% right on sedation and the lack of motivation of men.

Having sex outside of marriage and with multiple women is not investing your time, it is wasting your time.

Ruslan's 'prescription' is right on. The earlier one takes it the better their life will be.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. Proverbs 9:10. Men (and women) will do well to begin here in finding purpose.

Selling sex outside of marriage is also based on fear. Fear of missing out.

I agree with Rollo about porn. I've seen the 'sedation' in action.

Examples of polygamy in the Old Testament is not a prescription for marriage.

Abraham had Sarah as a wife. Sarah told him to have sex with her maidservant, Hagar. It was Jacob who had two wives, Leah and Rachel. Jacob also had sex with their maidservants. Rollo and Ruslan seems like both of you men should have known this basic information.

Needs: Food, Shelter, Water, Sleep . Desires: Sex

The 'innateness' in us that says we are better together than apart was designed by the Creator God. We did not 'evolve'. Although Rollo writes he is a follower of the Savior Jesus Christ it appears his philosophy denies we are created and purposefully made by intelligent design.

This was idealism vs empericism debate/discussion.

from ruslan

Marriage stats frame marriage as unfavorable....red pill exposes the reality.