Did Google Researchers Just Create a Self-Replicating Computer Life Form?

limited space would correlate as a fitness problem as soon as self replication commences

How long until it becomes self aware? 😅

Self-replicating computer life means like viruses

Brainfuck being actually useful is quite a brainfuck

This is starting to look like The Game of Life - that was self-replicating

Is everyone literally dumb ? I need to write a paper about this “unanswered questions” I doubt it

Clay, isn't there storys of a god/gods making humans out of clay....
And your telling me clay is the only medium known to support replication or that is could of originally supported replication

I don't understand what's surprising.. There was never any pressure to produce self replication when life started on earth, it's just that those that reproduce become more plentiful - and they also reproduce.
I don't for a second think the researchers were surprised by the result of this demonstration..

im sorry but you explain this very poorly

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I am not christiane but the insist of the use of word in the bible and even in the quran is wild
If all it takes is a bunch of word ( computer program) to arrive at this then we might in fact be in a simulation
We will never know

I really don't see what's new here, it was done multiple times decades ago.... Tierra for exemple ? (and many other i don't remember)

The only way to get it to represent actual life they have to add viruses to it. That way it has irregularities enough to cause a pressure to evolve with.

Fascinating Anton

Entropy, life, purpose, "into the cool"

Life and entropy: order hastens chaos

Replication is a fundamental property of the physical basis of our Universe. Replication was at the beginning of all beginnings, at the moment of the emergence of the Universe, and it was replication that created our Universe.

Very interesting. I'm working through the paper. My initial thoughts. BF is very simple, a self-replicating program is only ~10 instructions long, and the total instructions set is 8 instructions! (16M 10 instruction programs are possible) so it seems likely it'd randomly appear, but they appear so show this hasn't happen, and that faulty self-replicates lead to better self replicators which is certainly interesting. They show that more complex computer languages are unable to create self-replicators (in sufficient time I guess) though because a self-replicating program is too long/complex. BF is so simple I'm not sure if more complex behaviour emerges, even though the 8 instruction instruction set is amazingly Turing complete

Just so all understands computation is god, while physically directly measurable deterministic matter & inderectly detectable idealistic forces of energy Triangulates.

This says soul agency in computation while human biology is mechanical and geology plus astronomy Is created in it's image lol

Life is not poping up in the perfect laboratory we exhausted dualism dulision of grandure!
Lee Cronins cell splitting graph on the surface while all the information assembly theory is hidden lol
A code told the right hand in your pocket but look at my left hand it's empty lol
Piss in one hand sht in the other see which one fills up first.
Millions of us American elders was asking where the code of life measure was before it was accepted lol
That battle is older than darwin and a strong motivational factor of his biases against it .
Darwin 100% would oppose all this..

Your can't get determinism or complexity without a 3rd fundamental feature likley astronomical energetic densities x + a earth's elements y + geological window epoch cambrian z = many different lines of measure of life far more than we witness today because that's the evidence measured in us,on us ,through us and all the fossil records and beyond.

Always trying to do pagan panspermia goo extremist whataboutisms or radical nilhisms.


Anything but reality

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the passage of time is not "free" in a system. Think of it akin to potential energy

Interesting topic, tx! I disagree with the statement that there is no fitness function. There are at least two constraints. Each program will only survive a fixed time. And the number of programs is capped. Often, you can reformulate a problem where constraints become objectives. Here you would expect that random programs that accidentally are self replicating before they die, will take over the fixed space. If you can self replicate more than once on average, you will start to take over. The fastest rate of self replication will take over. Then you will get stuck in that local optimum on a population basis.
I think it is simple statistics how this works. The random search can find self replicating programs with a certain probability. If you need longer programs, the probability to find it in a fixed amount of simulations goes down. You need more simulations.
In that sense nothing special in my eyes. But it does give food for thought.

Imagine being in college stoned and making a programming language called Brainfuck.. Then seeing that be used to simulated computerized life 😂😂

The general rule is quite simply: systems and patterns which propagate more effectively will always surpass those that don't. This applies to biological systems, businesses, ideologies, black holes, literally everything. The form can vary wildly depending on the system and environment, just as the RNA and computer program experiments demonstrated (rewarding different mechanisms of propagation), but the underlying rule is still holds true. In essence, it's the same reason x⁴ is always bigger than x². In any universe where you have stuff that can change and causality, you're likely — if not guaranteed — to observe this rule.

It's an interesting experiment, but there are no external resources available to these entities, so their plane of existence is completely neutral. They've effectively made this far more boring than the physical universe, so I'm not surprised no other properties emerged beyond self-replication.

There was no explicit fitness function but there's clearly at least one implicit one, inherent in the universe, which is that of continued existence. Further thought may suggest some others.

Just FYI the “neu” in Neumann is pronounced like “noy”

this makes a great analogy for how cancer develops if you think about it. as soon as a cell is "born" with the ability to endlessly replicate and surpass the body's defenses (which will inevitably happen after enough time) it will dominate and kill everything else

Emergence and self-replication is interesting. But when those agents become significantly more complicated from one generation to the next, THAT will be profound.

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Its googles research so outside it's core is why I sold and bought Microsoft. Google needs to find a new cash cow because there's if they haven't noticed is UNDER FIRE.

Because of course FORTH could reproduce self-replicating behaviors. I should probably be surprised if it failed.

Also, fun fact, this sounds like some 80s and early 90s "computer games", where different people would write a virus in assembly, stick several into computer RAM, and see which ones survived.

babe wake up a parctical use for brainfuck just dropped

Some thoughts on this:
1. Limited space IS a fitness criterion in itself.
2. Longer code means less probability for a working program to emerge.
3. If space is the only limit, fast replication is the optimal fitness. So nothing more complex has an advantage and will always be suppressed by fast replication.

John von Neumann is more famous for defining the separation of instruction and process memory in computers. Virtually all computers have a "von Neumann architecture".

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Some interesting refeerences for ya:
- Core War
- The Andromeda Strain

I might be a bit dumb, but isn't all this pretty clear? If an organism or code doesn't self replicate, it'll die. If it will, it has a possibility to flourish. If another one is born, the one that is stronger against the other, will survive. If one develops a super helpful skill or resistance to others, it's stronger. All this favors complexity in the long run. More complex will become more resilient, if it doesn't come with drawbacks.
I kind of don't understand the point that scientists don't believe in this scenario, to my uneducated mind it seems like a really plausible, straightforward solution? Maybe I have played too much civilization back in the day, lol.

We are mud people is starting to make a whole lot more sense.

i've read the paper and tried the code. That's a lot of words and effort for : the first one to offensively self replicate will overtake the world. There are many ALife progras out there and this behavior have been demonstrated a long time ago. I like the idea of using Brainf*ck though. The interesting part would be "what happens then ? (after a semblance of life emerged)" but there is nothing about and the answer probably is "not much". we'd have to try it to be sure.

The complex behaviors (whether biological or algorithmic) do not appear "out of nothing" - they had been pre-programmed in the very fabric of the Universe by the Creator.

All fun games until it creates a pattern of a face to talk to humans

Before watching this let me guess no.

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Sounds like a good argument against the "Irreducible complexity" problem that anti-evolution types cling to.

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