7 Simple Alternative Energy Batteries

Budget more for pipe less for insulation, dirt is cheap, lost heat is still there for long term storage.

I looked into using water as storage to produce electricity, but the sheer volume of water necessary was staggering. If you already have a stream/river that is falling then it may be feasible, but to build something, even a pond, was impractical.

Compressed air seemed viable on a small scale, but it's like constantly trying to manage a bomb.

Molten salt, even with all of the extreme temps, almost seems manageable on a DIY scale. High pressures should only exist where you convert to steam.

Phase Change materials seems promising, but finding the perfect material factoring... the cost of the materials, the energy capacity and the phase temperature is very difficult. I've recently looked at paraffin, PVC and sucrose as potential candidates.

Water is hard to beat in most storage areas... very high heat capacity, extremely cheap, fluidity over a wide temp range! I think there's a reason the Earth uses water as a phase changing thermal battery.

The rocket mass stove is a very efficient heat storage. Similar with masonry heaters.

Hello... Just FYI...
The reason why batteries are defines as such is for historical reason as electrical battery were the first of such conceptualization...
As our understanding of science & energy grew, the term became colloquially broader by adding what "type" of energy you were "storing" (i.e: Thermal Battery, Electrical battery, Kinetic Battery, etc.)
However, in the industry today, they tend to use "Energy Storage System" instead of battery in order to minimize confusion AND reduce the limitation on what constitute an energy storage "entity"...

Spinning- flywheel concept. There have been vehicles in the past powered by flywheels. Storing physical energy. What about sand? I’ve seen videos of large containers of sand heated by solar thermal then used later

A spring can store energy, that doesn't make it a battery. Just saying.

Technically I believe a "Battery" really means "A collection of". Usualy a car battery is a collection of cells. The name battery is also used when talking about canons. You have a gun battery when you have multiple canons. It is only because we have gotten used to talking about electric storrage in batteries that we now think about that first. I believe your heading should have been "7 Simple Alternative Energy Storage Systems". Just for being pedantic.

Therefore, a grandfather clock has a mechanical battery, stored energy as mass in a weight.

since this video aired they are now using sand as energy storage,

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Take a look at batsand battery. It's made for residential houses.

Has anyone come across heat being extracted from sea water (Thus cooling the ocean)? We watched an excellent documentary called "Chasing Coral", and the state of the oceans and the effect that warming oceans are having on Marine life, is dire ! Why are we not extracting heat from the oceans, the worlds biggest batteries ? If we can extract heat from the ground to heat our homes, it would seem like a slam dunk to me to get coils into the warmer oceans in the world to extracted unwanted heat !!
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Another battery? I call them dirt, dirt and dirtier dirt batteries. Quarts sand, modeling clay, powdered activated charcoal. $ store shyt. I do test cells with 2" silver solder, ideally this is not a decomposition process. The power generated via piezoelectric effect. The clays catylyst/ shrinkage comprehensive forces on the quarts. The carbon carries it away.. Resin, gypsum, portland...polymar could also work. ive had some success, pondering a tiny specific frequency phone vibrator.

Thanks X3 for sharing your video with us, the world is already better with people like you and I.... I thought I would watch real artifacts and their pros and cons in storing energy, but instead, I only heard and saw "ideas" .... when digging take into consideration that micro organisms and toxic gases could potentially be released and even kill human-imals .... i agree, the dictionaries all over the world are written by intelligent individuals MADE MEGA IDIOTS by idiots repeating idiocies that multiply the number of idiots in them audience and the definition of battery in them is repeatedly noted for electrical batteries .... we are ruled or rather dictated upon by individuals elected by a very few residents in each so called democracies thus democracies all over the world is just another dictatorship and to understand one only have to read the number of votes that elected the "democratic dictator" and compare this to the number of people living in each democratic country which includes all the illegal residents mostly all residents under the age of 18 in most countries and the illegal immigrants who are a very important part in the food chain and basic services.... we are a world of idiots having so many and so much of each resource on earth, yet our prevailing feudal system still make our brainwashed soldiers kill their similar on the other side of the virtual border.... we are so brainwashed and idiots.

#6 is a mechanical battery.. or a flywheel, they were very popular in the 1800s

For being helpfull and not just criticize I should mention exothermic reaction. A chemical like CaCl2 gives out heat when mixed with water. It could be dehydrated in the summer heat and hydrated in the winter. This would store the summer heat for the winter which really should be the extreme goal.
To my knowledge it has been investigated at universities and found possible but it hasn't been commercialized to my knowledge. There is probably a cost/volume problem. I should warn people experimenting with it that I believe there is a possibility for devellopment of Hydrocloric acid.
There is probably no better solution for long term energy storage than oil. Plant oil would be good if it was possible to create it artificial maybe starting from hydrogen and using solar energy for all energy input required. I hope some body is/would research it.

I really struggle to imagine how 'molten salt', would be scaled down to domestic deployment. (Hope I'm wrong.) Great vid. Thanks.

Phase change heating: the old steam radiator.

I saw you in an advertisement for "Ultimate Energizer" power generator... big lie... almost an hour of video to sell crap that doesn't do what it promises... very disappointed leaving this channel.

the spinning concept u mention I have been interested in for some time and know as flywheel, used in many industry especially 19 to early 20 century, prob beyond in both directions, there a lot of videos on here, many indian made, would be great for someone with knowhow to strip the myth from the factual on these free energy devices, thnk u and well done, fututre is mechanical, basic, long lasting easy to fix life gravity and maybe flywheel and others too.

wtf is wrong with geothermal in the usa? The western states has plenty. Hire some engineers form Sweden or which ever country over there is running off it. Farms make compost piles with a few hundred feet of hose in it and run water thru it to get hot water.

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from what I heard it is very dangerous to build a flywheel that stores significant amounts of energy. So it might not be a good idea to recommend this as an option for DIYing. Basically if anything goes wrong you have created a projectile that can destroy almost anything in it's path.

For storing energy in a rotating mass, you really want it in an almost-vacuum and with magnetic bearings to minimise energy decay, and generate and recover the energy electrically to avoid rotating bearing seals being necessary - unless it's for very short periods of time such as in an engine flywheel.

So I had a shower thought after watching your video. I don't think kinetic batteries (aka) high-speed spinning energy storage is practical for DIY usage as high-speed revolutions failing can be catastrophic and dangerous. My shower thought was how to make kinetic batteries practical for DIY-type experimentation. One way to do it would be to combine a gravity battery and a kinetic battery on a helix-type spindle. So low-speed spinning aided by gravity.

thanks for the great, inspiring video. you introduced 6 very interesting storage systems.
only 1 is not a viable one: compressed air. in industries it is considered the most expensive form of energy due to loads of heat losses. you might want to replace that in your video with a gravity battery: drop a heavy weight on a long cable into an old mine shaft...
there is room for all of these systems. we should handle this theme like we should out nutrition: we are omnivore.

how do you pump heat "battery" into the ground.. ? doesnt it just dissipate? how do you insulate? what percentage effeciency is it? how long will your "battery " stay charged?

by basic rules of gas compression much of the energy that goes into compressing the gas is lost to the environment as heat. ...sooooo

You don't need molten salt for high temperature. You can simply heat up sand to much over 100 degrees

Water Falling (Hydro Electric Dams) have a history, but newer, is called "Run-Of-River" that uses water Velocity, in a fast flowing River or Creek, to spin a Turbine that drives a Generator!

The Miles & Miles of Upstream River equal your "Battery!"

Hot Oil, can be used like water, but with a wider "Liquid Temperature Range" than Water, for storing Heat Energy, also. Certain Food Grade Oils, have different "Flash Points" that need to be managed, but just as Steam can be dangerous, Hit Oil can similarly be, so manage the Temperature Range in use well, and have dual Thermostat Management Control for safety with Oils!

Like Paraffin, "Woods Metal" (Fire Sprinkler Extinguisher "Plugs") might be a usable Metallic Choice, also for a Moderate Energy Phase Change medium! Liquid Paraffin, can also be "Dangerous" as well, as it is obviously Flamable, as is Oil! But, some study, research, and Thermal Management control, should yield benefits!

Battery doesnt have to be electrical, it simply means a collection of cells. We use the term "tank battery" out here in west Texas to refer to the 4 to 10 tank setups near wells.

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Hello, thank you for your explanation. Could you please explain the principle of a sand battery and how it can store thermal energy?

Sanatory outfit?

These people use Celsius just to piss me off.

An alternative form of pumped-hydro system is to start at sea-level and dig a reservoir that is below sea-level. You generate energy as the sea-water fills the reservoir, and store it by pumping it back out again. It is relatively inexpensive to dig a hole, the United States has 12,000 miles of coast-lines, and our largest population centers happen to be along the coasts.

WOW Unbelievable: More than 98% of electricity generated in Manitoba comes from clean and renewable sources such as hydroelectricity and wind. Manitoba currently produces a surplus of hydro-sourced energy, and exports about half of the electricity it generates.

Spinning had been used as emergency power sources for computers for years. It's not theoretical

Rather than ‘thermal battery’ can I suggest ‘thermal accumulator’ because ‘battery’ is really a chemical device, just a suggestion

Strange English. Russians use two words. "Accumulator" is an energy storage device and "battery" is a device consisting of several cells.

Wherever you use heat to heat your home you should always make good use of the free thermal dynamics of heat convection that accompany it. Using that same heat to cool your house for free. Heat never fails to rise, leaving a void, which you can use to suck cooler air in through long underground conduits. Sand batteries work best above gound. The lower you dig, the cooler it is & that's constant.

I live in austria. We have pump storage powerplants where 2 lakes, one up a mountain and one at the foot act as a gravital battery. When the electrical grid needs power they release water from the mountain to generate electricity. During cheap hours (when grid is full of solar power) they use electricity to pump the water back up to the mountain.

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I found by zapping a closed loop coil thats insulated locks in voltage, where its still magnetized without the keeper, this is quite interesting approach, was thinking this earlier then found this confirmation from 14 yrs ago... i wonder what trying both does, will it be too much and burn up, gotta find that sweet spot between the ampacity and voltsge capacity with output...

Thx for video. I’m wondering if you have seen an example of sand battery extracting steam from water and generating electricity. Could such an idea be scaled up to use with a coal fire power station. Best Charles

What do you think about this low grade solar boosted geothermal system?