NVMe SSD Gen 3 vs Gen 4 running at PCIe 3.0. Samsung 970EVO Plus vs Samsung 980 PRO on Dell XPS 9500

as i see, the different gonna be at write/read speed.. but i want to ask if is there any other side effects if we use ssd gen 4 at laptop gen 3? maybe gonna overheat or black/bluescreen or something else? (sorry if my english was bad.. but i hope you understand my question) 😢

Great video! Thank you!

Hello, what if I install the 4 gen and replace another KIOKXIA with the 3 gen ?

I'm upgrading an nvme in my thinkpad t14, I like to keep my drives cool so I'm wondering why the 980 ran colder then the 970evo?

i just bought gen 4 ssd m.2 but my mobo capable with gen 3 it still work well right?

Just for the temps, is worth it going for the 980pro

I have a doubt,can I put gen3 ssd on my gen4 ssd laptop

Do you know if the wd sn850x is better for dell xps 9500

how about gaming only? Im planing to build 13400f + b760 mobo + 4070. which of these two should i get?

Thanks for the comparison, now in 2023 there are lots of computers with access to only PCI 3.0 speeds, your video makes it easier to understood the benefit of the 980 Pro vs the 970 Evo Plus, and they are matching their prices.

Definitely worth to consider 980 Pro or even better SSDs

If I use gen 4 ssd in gen 3 motherboard as a boot drive. Will it cause any problems?

Wow, encerio respondiste a una gran duda que tenia, creo que esta es una duda que a muchos de los que usamos laptops llegamos algun dia cuando queremos ampliar nuestra memoria sdd y nos topamos con mas versiones 4.0 que 3.0 en el mercado.

hi, i want to use it just for my OS drive on PCIE 3.0
I keep finding mixed results about power consumptions, the scales tipping a bit towards 980 pro
i know this is an old video, i wonder if someone has a good feedback for this or suggest a better nvme (excepting p31 gold) for low idle power

The Random reads are generally much more important, so the speed improvement in this area is significant

Thanks for this video, I think you nailed the really cool stuff! (I have seen many videos where they got lost in useless and often wrong theoretical explanations)👏👏

Hi Pal,
Is it normal reading speed slower than writing speed ?
If not? Is there any suggestion?

I brought the 980pro yesterday for my gen3 slot 😊
Because 970 evo plus $6 more expensive 😂

Bonjour, bonne vidéo, courte, très intéressante et surtout très instructive 👍

By the way my brand new and mostly empty 980 Pro running on Gen 3 has some very strange differences compared to yours:
The sequential values are pretty similar, but I get 579345 instead of 294433 Random Read speed and 166748 instead of 25292 Random Write speed. 🤨🤔
Could it be the faster write cache being full? I read it can take hours for it to recover its full write cache and there might even be Windows bugs that stop it from recovering at all.

I think either way the difference isn't worth the price premium unless you want future-proofing, IMO.

well. looks pointless because the speed is too slow. slower than normal gen 3 slot. better test on pc

Temperature. Exactly what I looked for. Thanks!

how do i know if my laptop supports gen 4 ssd i have a lenovo ideapad gaming 3 with ryzen 6600h and 3050 with ddr5 is it capable and if so which is a good one to get ?

nice😍

I’ve found those 2 SSD’s currently at $330 for both, but I only have a gen3 nvme slot so, im guessing I go with the pro as it’s the same price ?

Thank you so much for making straight to the point and informative video in short time

1tb 970 evo plus is 99 dollars and the 1tb 980 pro is 110. I think the extra 10 bucks is money well spent since I can swap it to a 4.0 board if/when I upgrade. Not much reason to buy the 970 evo plus anymore even though it's still a great drive. Heck the 1tb sn850x is only $99.

gen 4 gets moore hot

I really want to see this same test with a 990 pro

I have a Surface BOok2 , with 8gen CPU (i7-8650u), if I install 980 Pro, is it going to overheat? I heard 980 pro has overheating issue.
980 pro is currently on sale in my country, the price is quite similar to 970 evo plus

Much required stuff that I was looking for.

thank you for the video, it's really useful for those who like maximum speed

Nice and simple, I just picked up a 970PLUS because it's $50 cheaper than the 980PRO and I've learned that small differences like this really aren't noticeable.

So unless you have a gen 4 motherboard, save the 50 bucks lol.

I think you're being capped by the PCH speed on this one. I have a Samsung 970 EVO running on my X299X Waterforce using a PCI-Express addin card that came wit the motherboard, and I am reaching 3580mbps reads. Probably on this laptop, the M2 Pci Express 3.0 slot that you are using is being routed through the PCH and being capped by Intel's DMI.
I would like to know what would happen if we plug a Pci Express 4.0 NVME on a 3.0 slot, I think it would probably cap at 4.0gbps, but I am not sure yet, since I don't find tests where they test it in motherboards who have a decent connection from the PCI Express to the CPU without using the PCH.

Thanks, As ASUS laptop with 11th generation CPU only supports GEN3, I was thinking about buying GEN3, but decided on GEN4.

Is that ssd heatsink came with the laptop? Or you can buy it somewhere?

Not a huge gap between gen4 vs gen3. Recommended to go for gen3 with less price

this is the exact information I was looking for, thank you so much.

This was exactly the information i was looking for.Thanks for the nice and simple explanation.Also if you can compare the performance of the leading gen 4 ssds [wd, sabrent, corsair, p5 plus, giagbyte ,etc]on gen3 pcie, it would be great.

Why is my second real number on read always like about 700 less than the first number? And yours are about the same 980 pro

Gracias amigo, me decidÍ por la 980 PRO, en un HP ENVY 15 - EP002LA, que usa GEN3, pero observe que tiene mejor rendimiento y temperatura!!! NO ME ARREPIENTO DE MI INVERSION!! MUCHAS GRACIAS POR TU VIDEO!!!!

Hi why am i showing this on samsung magician "RECOMMENDED TO CONNECT TO PCIE 4 GEN FOR OPTIMAL SPEED is it because of the slots maybe input wrong?

I have just buy one pro 4.0 and use it on 3.0 and i get 2x fastere i i have a 970 plus 1tb now 980 pro in the other slot

Very helpful video!!
Finally, I found the video which reviews SSD Gen 4 running on PCie Gen 3

Helpful

İsnt pcı-e gen3 x4 slots max bandwith 4gb/sn? So why pcı-e gen4 SSD like 980 pro doesnt perform at 4000 mb/sn W/R ? And why fastest gen3 nvme ssd read and write around 3500 mb/sn not 4000 mb/sn ? Thanks for the video.

Thanks for the video since I can find the Samsung gen4 for basically the same price as a gen3 I'll go for that since it gives max performance

exactly !! what needed !! thanks for the comparission !!! subcribed !

thanks for this test now i know difference .not much performance difference .

Hello pretty interesting comparison, I have a Huawei Matebook 14 (early 2021 model) AMD 5 Ryzen 4600H and SSD 512 Samsung PM981a, I am thinking into installing a 1TB ssd but got confused which is the optimal solution, like you state on other comments go for the 980 Pro? pick 980 for lower consumption to have better battery life or go with the 970 evo plus (currently 970 evo plus and 980 have almost the same price). Also, in some videos I saw installing WDSN750. At the beginning I thought of the 970 evo plus but on the other side I was scared regarding the temperature (but looking at the datasheet the operation temperatures seem in paper identical with PM981), then i thought of 980 but the lack of DRAM holds me back, the 980 Pro seems the most logical option but don't know regarding the consumption if it is truly the best possible choice for me. It would be great If you could give me an advice regarding which is the best choice for my case? I am planning to stay a while with this laptop so no thoughts of an upgrade. Last but not least due to lack of space additional heatsink is not an option, so the to be installed ssd will operate without additional heatsink.