Rassilon Vs The Doctor | Hell Bent | Doctor Who | BBC

Rassilon didn't even have the guts to watch it happen.

There are so many things I love about this scene

"We were ordered to shoot him but I was not going to be the one to do it"

Rassilon didn't get it: the Time Lords freed him from the Dark Tower to fight the Time War, and he ended up killing any member of the High Council who disagreed with him and plotting the death of the Universe from a shielded bunker while the people of Arcadia were being slaughtered. By this point most Gallifreyans were sick of him.

This version of Rassilon was pretty weak compared to Timothy Dalton.

So they make him president, and then he just turns evil and leaves, gotta love it

It's amazing how they got the doctor so right, only to do a 180 and go of the rails for the rest of the episode.

I like to think the time Lords gave the doctor a new set of regenerations against Rassilon's orders. Perhaps even deliberately to spite him.

I wish they got Timothy Dalton back as Rassilon

The Doctor conducted a regime change via a military coup. The Doctor is the CIA.

Once again Moffat ruined a good idea with this episode

Awful version of Rassilon, not commanding, not charismatic, no sense of threat.

Like a random guy they picked up from a retirement home who had been looking for his slippers who had never acted before.

I wonder how 10/14 would have dealt with Rassilon

Shame we didn’t see more of Timothy Dalton’s Rassilon.

The Doctor Who ❤

I’d love if rassilon survived the massacre caused by the master and comes back as a warlord on another planet seeking to kill the doctor for his banishment and losing of everything

Guns cant even damage a bit of wood?

I wonder what the Time Lords thought of the Doctor after the whole saving Clara thing. It’s a shame they were killed off. There were still so many storylines that could have been written with Gallifrey and the Doctor trying to understand what his Time Lord identity made him. Hell Bent was an awesome episode and it was satisfying to see the Doctor finally get the recognition he deserved. Even if he was broken by that point.

Why do such an alarming number of my so-called fellow Whovians these days seem to only ever gripe about what they hate about it anymore?

When 11 struggles against being consumed by grief whilst also tenderly comforting an all but inconsolable Amy Pond following the terrible discovery that despite all they had contributed to the "pile of good things" in Vincent's life, not only did those good things serve to prevent the suicide of the man both she and The Doctor had been beyond so privileged as to come to know personally beyond what the histories tell, but indeed a man that came to call them the most dearly beloved of his precious few and deeply cherished friends, a love that humbled even The Doctor and was clearly reciprocated by both he and Pond, it didn't even delay that tragedy by so much as a single solitary day, he urges her to think of everyone's life, their memories and experiences, as essentially a pile of good things and a pile of bad things and to remember that while the good things don't necessarily negate the bad, the bad things definitely do not invalidate the good. Finally, Raggedy Man comforts Pond by reminding her that they definitely added a great deal to Vincent's good pile.

Similarly, nothing that I may personally dislike about Doctor Who as time passes and the series proceeds necessarily negates any of the wisdom nor any values which I will ALWAYS celebrate the series for having given to me since the age of ten almost thirty years ago.

I guess what I mean is that if your pile of things you hate about Doctor Who becomes greater than the pile of things you love about Doctor Who, why not just accept that it's no longer your jam and find something you do enjoy more than you don't?

Because as nice as I've tried to be in my suggestions and appeals to logical reasoning, I gotta say that some of these individuals are, to put it delicately, what I find to be just some the fucking worst sort of bitter, entitled, self-satisfied, dishonest, insecure, miserable, waterheaded mouthbreathing diaper babies I've ever had the embarrassment of being associated with and I wish they would either entirely go the fuck away or at the very least just shut the fuck up...

Because what they fail to recognize is that they the kind of jerks that disgrace the name of The Doctor, Who would find them to be categorically repellent.

What a joke Moffat made of Rassilon.

I hate the timeless child rubbish.

This entire episode should have been the doctor organizing a coup with the timelords to depose Rassilon as Lord president. It would have been much better than what we got.

In my head canon, Skull Moon was where the "Warrior" persona of the Doctor first revealed himself after his regeneration. I imagine it as a battle the Time Lords were losing until the War Doctor arrived and single-handedly turned the tide. He saved the lives of the soldiers there and annihilated the Daleks without ever raising a weapon. So, in my mind, when that soldier tells the 12th Doctor he was at Skull Moon it was an acknowledgement that he owed the Doctor his life. It also, in my mind, explains why that same soldier backed up in his heavily-armed ship as the Doctor walked toward him. He saw and knew what an unarmed Doctor could do.

i prefer riddick

This is all wrong. Rassilon was the most powerful time Lord on the planet gallifrey and also the wisest. The Doctor was afraid of rassilon and respected him. There would never have been any time war if rassilon was brought into it.

"Space Glasgow." Love it! 🙂

donald sumpter is an amazing actor but i cant help wondering how amazing this scene would also have been if they had gotten Timothy Dalton back..

Doc saved you from unwinnable war, and then punched a wall made by the hardest material in the universe, for 4.5 billion years. If you don't be on their side out of respect, you should choose their side if you have a brain.

Every story ever told really happened.

To me, Capaldi could never replace Tennant but that doesnt mean his performance wasnt brilliant.

I have no problem with any Dr's.
I just don't own a Blue Box to keep up with shows.

This was a dumb scene. People being "afraid" of The Doctor is the antithesis to the character. And why would all The Doctors fear Rassilon the entire series, but yet here is Moffat's Scottish stand-in acting "tough". The scene does not work and it was a lazy way to write out the greatest leader/villain in Time Lord history.

The stuff with Clara sucked. I hate how they spent all that time trying to make her better or cooler than the doctor.
But I loved Capaldi.

"The first thing you notice about the Doctor of War is that he's unarmed."

And the scariest thing in the world is, you realize he's the one in control.

So Rassilon escapes? He could be a thorn in the doctor's side in lives to come.

very nice of the soldiers to leave a gap right at the Doctor's side so the general could stand at his right hand.

Weirdly enough now the timelords are all dead again, the high council being exiled actually saved them.

The man who can turn an army around at the mention onhis name

Rassilon was only so hostile because of that great ridiculous metal collar digging into his neck every time he moved.

Would be awkward if one of them didn't get the memo and domed him 😅

They really did Rassilon bad in this.

I'm not surprised the Time Lords were losing the war if their guns could only scorch thin wooden planks

The balls of the General to basically shove the President's hand down...

the most terrifying thing about him always being unarmed even during the time wars is that you have no idea what to watch out for, with a man that is amazing with a weapon (or even with every weapon) you know what to watch out for and if they're unarmed you know they can be beaten. with the doctor you have no idea if he's truly out of options or if he has some kind of plan that you don't want to be on the wrong end of.

I love how the general knew that they fired and wasnt surprised the soldiers respected the doctor so much they knew what this meant. Disobey the order of a madman drunk with power to serve with a brother in arms of true valor. That is true loyalty

I'm so glad Galifrey and the Timelords are back! Can't wait to see all the new adventures that come from it!

I'm just saying, Clone Wars did it first.

Great scene... But somebody call Dogma, Rassilon stole his job.

This is a really cool moment, no doubt, however, this Rassilon was really disappointing especially after Timothy Dalton's menacing and commanding portrayal in The End of Time Part 2. Also, this episode is general is just a huge mess.