Motorized Gas Bikes VS E-Bikes

Comment below which type of bike you prefer and why :)

honestly with the rising prices of gas, I'd rather cut myself off from gas as much as possible.

I am of the opinion that manufacturers should produce batteries for electric bicycles such that the bicycle has a range of at least 500 kilometers with the highest support (and the manufacturers themselves can ride those with a range of up to 40 kilometers).

built both and my main draw is electric for say 85% of use cases as 500w or whatever while not much, isn't needed. most guys don't go over 25 on a bike so electric is just practical, however as a guy who builds engines I would go combustion cause tinkering is fun plus im someone who forgets to plug stuff in.
however for something heavy or whatever i would trust the predator 224 i built cause most bike batteries are about 650 to maybe 800wh so in Colorado going uphill id deplete a pack in realistically 2-2.5 hours which again for most is fine. however the predator on the other hand makes around 20hp and 17-18 pounds of torque, and im still getting about 3.5 hours of use per gallon or about 60 to 70mpg on a setup that ive used on go karts to pull 2500 pounds and this is on e85.
so overall if i was in the city or had everything nearby id go electric bike
but since i like hooking up atv trailers or just load up cargo rack not to mention like taking things out to the middle of nowhere im gonna have to go ICE
being able to just put the cheapest fuel and be able to beat the living snot out of something is just what makes it fun. if i blow this engine its not a big deal as parts are a dime a dozen and i know itll start every time. i haven't even needed to tune the carb between the 90 degree summer to the 20 degree winter

Just rode my first ebike and I love that it's quiet, and I can get to some local stores about a mile away in no time.

You 100% right about both bikes, I have built both fat tire motorized bike regular mountain motorized bike and 1500w electric bike they are a lot of fun, in my opinion there is more things can go wrong in the motorized bike than the electric, I remember the stupid bike chain always coming off 😢 but of course that was my fault for not doing a good job😂😂 Many time I had to carry my baby 😢 the electric bike never let me down, great video, I did made more money when I sold the electric $850.00 1500w the gas 50cc fat tire $460.00
Have fun guys!! Be safe ride professional and officers will let you along ❤ promise 🙏

From the building aspect... I used to build motorized bikes but couldn't do a custom paint job because the gas would ruin it. I also had to dress a certain way because riding a motorized bike has the potential to mess up my clothes. This is not so with e-bikes. Here, in Detroit, bicycles are a big thing. Gotta go out in style.

Every week, I read about the revolutionary new storage battery that will change everything. Week after week after week.

Gas bikes are much more notice-able so they are safer for the rider

Hi Ben , could you advise me if it is possible to buy the combination of Honda motor and bike with good suspension and brakes . I want to fly both units from Newark to Havana Cuba and build at my home in Cuba , I have very little tools in Cuba so I need a kit that is ready to assemble. Any advice would be appreciated, regards John .

excellent video!!!!...would it be possible..to build a Hybrid Bicycle..like Cars have?...i'm Old School..i do prefer 'Gas' driven. cheers from Canada.

I have never built a GAS bike, but i would love to. I have built plenty of ebikes, and it would be nice to be learn more about gas engines and eventually 4 stroke Motorbikes. When it comes to range, eletric motorbikes are no where near petrol powered motorbikes.

Anyone starting out Gas Powered Bike wins 💯 #1 teaches you how basic motorcycle maintenance #2 teaches you how to Use a Clutch #3 they are a blast to ride I've met more bikers and scooter riders having my gas powered bike than I did with my sports bikes and Cruiser get more respect from all riders and it surprises everyone when they see how fast they are lol I like to cruise at 20 25 but can faster if I have to

Gas bike aren’t always so bulky especially if you have a small engine like 14cc 3 hp engines

E-bikes - I want an e-bike with about 5kwh of power and active thermal management, rack/second-seat. If designed correctly and for automated equipment and at scale - one can make it available for $5k to public.

Where did you find that motor mount for the 4stroke ?

Seeing the gas powered bicycles are not street legal in a lot of places, Most are two stroke with no emissions control, loud, you can not store it in the house I really can't see the purpose for making them with the really powerful electric bikes and conversions out there most all are street legal . Hell here if you are over 16 you don't even have to wear a helmet. I can keep my 1500 watt bike in the bed room and ride 18 miles through town to the lock head waters on the old tow path take the trails and ride sidewalks without anyone raising a brow. Once you make you bike Gas powered the only places you can legally ride them is off road on private property. E-bikes can share the road and walking trails and are ( by law) bicycles.

Drove ,made gas bikes for 10 years,best one phatmoto, 3 years very little repairs

Great channel man, but we can not ride that gas bike here in Florida without getting picked out by sheriffs or local cops, impounded and fined. Meanwhile there are ebikes law signed by governor in July 2020 legalizing ebike to 3 classes up to 28 mph and have full rights as regular bicycle. It is the laws that help propel the immense rise of ebikes popularity while gas bike us on the dead. Also all ebikes now even have better battery system than 2 years ago along with legal e-bikes shops opening up around most states. It is the legality that open up practicality and the rest for ebike industry. You have to own and ride ones to really get on it. I love gas bike! But we can not ride out here because the laws , it is not worth being worried to get stopped and impounded most of the times. Cheers.🙏

I wanna try a hybrid, series would be simple but ecvt would be great, I think.

I've built dozens of gas bikes but then I built my first electric.
eBike life 4 ever⚡

🤔 🇺🇸 🖤American uniform Police REALLY will mess with ANY kid that's got a motor on their bicycle they got to rest them and take away their. REAL freedom NO matter what. REALLY THAT is exactly WHY American prisons REALLY ARE already filled UP ALL a Cross THE United State's more than ANY other Nation 's ON Earth. REALLY . EVERY REAL American citizen REALLY can ONLY blame THE U.S. Congress. Because it is THE U.S. Congress makes UP ALL of these totally insane Law's. REALLY is NOT THE American people making UP ALL of these totally insane laws.🖤🇺🇸

A 50cc engine will not even pull a 40 lb kid down a hill much less up ANY hill on any bicycle really the U.S. government has really taken away every American citizens real freedom all across the United States got to have license for everything in the United States US government makes it against the law so they can make money off of Every American citizen and every American citizen kid's us government has been ripping every American citizens off since the beginning of time for their money that's why people have got to have driver's license for a bicycle even kids it's totally insane but that's what the US government really does Rob every American citizen for their money US Government already has taken away any real freedom for any us American citizens even kids

🤔REALLY If you put a real small catalytic converter and a good Muffler will quite the engine down and make Air much cleaner if you box in the engine in a box could also make engine a lot quieter

i suppose you could get away with an ebike if your legs are continuesly spinning those pedals, we hear constant hollering how everyone should get an electric car, yet they ban electric bikes?

sadly in my state ALL MOTORIZED BICYCLES are not allowed so gas or electric? pick your poison

Exploding battery or the delicious smell of gasoline?! No brainer there...

I just want nothing to do with Battery's and Chargers. My gas build is now 7 years old and running great.

Motorized bike all day, easy to customize and tune up for more power plus they are a lot cheaper and parts are easy to find and readily available. They are reliable and can go whole day long without complaining. Also feeling a fire breathing engine right underneath you is an experience I never want to give up

You know nothing of Gasbikes… obviously… ya can have waay more power than it comes with stock… 1.23 Hp stock for 50cc a actual pipe port timing fix and rejet carb resolve carb if ya can.. a good cdi magneto and you can easily hit 2+Hp or more up to 6-7 Hp on a 50cc

Your Gasbike engine can last a long time when built… use good bearings learn how to do a basic rebuild… replace rings replace cdi magneto… they’ll last a while up to three years before ya need to replace it depending on the engine some need 1 yr upper cylinder replacement just unbolt replace rings set rings replace cylinder bolt down done..

Gasbike a pollute.but…. A ebike production will cost carbon more than a gas bike will produce in a lifetime.. we see this in cars and the best ev in a cleaner fuel electrical plant area needs about 35k miles to negate the carbine it’s made vs a Gasbike that gets 100+ mpg and can be fixed easy lasts longer an ebike carbon made by production will not last long enough to displace the carbon needed to make it… vs a Gasbike with a high fuel efficiency

If price is no issue, I think electric is always going to win in terms of fun, power capacity, versatility, safety, and modularity/ configuration options. You can build a very fast bike for cheap with gas, but there are usability limitations that make me ask: why? There's a lot of misconceptions about the longevity of bike batteries leftover from the early 2010s tech, in addition to big gaps in product quality and user application these days. Until the past 5 years, there were a variety of things making the batteries fail and not a sizable enough group of riders using the best tech to build a clear consensus on issues. A many of people buy batteries that aren't built right and can't be fixed, many buy decent ones and overstep their capabilities. The base cell today is a 21700 which at a minimum, should be capable of delivering 300-400 good cycles a nominal 25-50w with higher peaks for a full discharge. However, people that test these batteries for use in flashlights etc are able to get much higher cycles with a constant 15A draw. Up to 3,000 cycles of full drain with 50W output per cell until the battery crosses the 70% capacity/ voltage threshold. You can still use the battery after that point but with less range and diminished top speed. On a 72v build it might be fine. Let's say you only want to use the battery until 80% power reduction, that still gives you up to ~1500 cycles. Those tests were conducted with 50w draw till empty and regular charge speed speed. In an ebike application there are a number of other factors that could raise or lower the battery stress, but it would average out for most use cases. Slower charging is good, lower capacity utilization is great - using only the middle 60% of the battery helps tremendously. high currant output is bad but if you have 15A per cell, 42 cells in a 600wh pack, that's 2kw at your disposal -1/4 for bms swing still yields a healthy 1.5kw and most with that pack size will ride much lower. A lot of problems people have a a result of poorly designed bms systems that screw up cell balance, overdrawn cells, and don't perform well at high wattages. Getting a quality battery with a high capacity lets you take advantage of the actual capability and avoid over stressing the cells at high speeds. Let's say you put 1.5kwh on your bike and use 60%. The worst case scenario for up to 22mph is gonna be 20wh/mi. If you ride 25-30mph it's 35wh/mi. So you are gonna get either a range of 25-45 mi per ride, with a bonus range of 20% battery for emergencies. At 1500 cycles, 25-45mi per cycle yields a 37,500-67,500 mi lifetime on a 1.5kwh battery. People ride their bikes hard and get less cycles but even at 750 its still 18-33.7k mi, that's a lot of riding. If you had a daily commute budget of 15 mi, 365 days, you could get up to 12 years before your battery needs replacing. All this to say yes, ebikes are more expensive to get high performance but it can be had and if you over provision the battery, the longevity is there... already. You can build a bike designed to ride in the 20s with great range, lightweight, high speed capability with standard parts. Once you push into the 40mph cruising speed territory you need 2kwh batteries, but at a certain point, why even build a bike when you really want motorcycle? Ebikes are light, fast, silent, configurable into many shaped with good weight distribution, and extremely high torque for the weight. All that tech feeds into the creation of an ideal machine based around what a bicycle should be: Lively, playful, efficient, flexibly terrain, high cargo captivity to weight ratio, stable, simple/ intuitive to control. For me personally, the ability to do torque sensing throttle control is enough to choose my propulsion system, and loud noise and vibration are a safety deal breaker. But even from a position of less bias, the electric route is still more promising. Power density is 85wh/lb, you can build a 1kwh bike with a 2kw high torque motor for a total drivetrain weight of between 16-20lbs. Thats at least 10lbs savings over a gas bike especially included the ability to use a light flexible frame, 10lbs+ that can instead go to suspension, cargo, or handling priorities. If you do it right your setup will run for a decade, and in a decade you will be much happier to have a nimble frame, a motor that works, and a battery that can be replaced with new tech vs having a heavy moto. You are also a lot more likely to be alive in 10 years if you used your max weight budget to build a comfortable, stable, predictable machine than if you built your whole frame around accommodating ice weight, bulk, and vibration. Especially since ebikes lend themselves to low speed offroad fun, vs motos where the whole novelty is zipping down the pavement on a motorcycle built without motorcycle parts. I get the appeal, but to make a vibrating mountain bike safe at 40mph costs so much that you might as well go bigger or smaller. The tech is leading to better places, enjoy the trail.

Electric dominates on trials and are more reliable, but you can't beat a finely tuned 2 or 4 stroke on the street. Best to have both.

Thanks for the video 👍Well I've got a build so simple a cave man could do it. It's a predator 79cc friction drive. As quite as a electric bike,and more dependable than all other builds .
I rode it across America this year Florida to California and back 4500 miles 41 days . No special parts or tools necessary. Can be built in any sized town . All moving parts have been deleted .
If fixing a flat tire is working on your bike then that's what my build is like 💯 it has a real torque sensor so it is real peddle assist, not fake electric assist. Works on any bike with a seat post.
Best tank of gas (half gallon) 78 miles worst tank was 50 miles those numbers includ the Rocky mountains.
I have a few videos on this channel, but my main channel is Jarrod D if someone wants to see more .
Thanks again for the video 🙂👍

You don't have 212cc anymore? Or was it always the gx120?

My main issue is legality. If it is not legal, then it is a deal breaker. I am a diy type person and would like to build a gas powered bike, but if I can't legally ride it then what is the point? Also, I like to camp and most places would not allow a gas bike

The gas bike because its more fun and e bike is not loud at all.

Ebike has advantages at lower speed. The rider can choose strength of assist. With gas bike, the rider helps to take off with no further peddling. Cheap Chinese engines are balanced with cheap bikes. Otherwise, you are better off with moped or motorcycle. Bike frame is not designed for vibration of the 100 cc engine.

I have a question about whether a 2 stroke 42cc engine is ideal for making a gas bike?
(Sorry for my bad English)

oh ps, my preference would be both gas and e-motor but where i live i'm not allowed a gas engine so i'm stuck with electric, law says 250w max but i'm 280lb an my bike is 105lb(2x 48v 25ah lifepo4 batteries, mid drive, built wheels 12g spokes adds up) so that just wont work, mine is 2000watts

hub motor ebikes are weak until you get to 72volt an 5000+watts, most of the store bought bikes are 250-750watt don't even waste your time, if you want or need to go ebike go with a mid drive at 48-52volt and a minimum 750watts, 1000w is better 1500watts is much better an comfortable, mid drives have the advantage of using the bikes gears to drive it which makes hill climbing an cruising a breeze, YES low power electrics work alot better with gears anyone that says otherwise is clueless!.. also when going electric make sure to buy something that has a long history like befang or cyclone, most story bought bike has bespoke parts they also have a habit of going out of business or being bought up by another that then uses other parts an brands thus leaving you with no spares, brands like bafang and cyclone have a huge(bafang more so) stock pile of factory and aftermarket spares so finding yourself without spares is highly unlikely ... also build don't buy! building will get you a much better bike suited to your needs at likely half the cost, less if you already own a good bike you like............ ps, why not build a tri power ? "pedal", gas engine for long rides an e-motor for in town around people(most batteries have usb ports these days so you can also use it to keep your phone charged on long trips/ camping trips)........

I was thinking of doing the mount like yours on my frame. But I want to do the 212ghost. Trying to figure the fit

Personally, I prefer a gas bike. I can ride it all day if I wanted to without having to charge it for 8-12 hours a limited amount of times. Lots of people comment on a motorized bicycle too. They are cool

You done good man & I would mine if you would build my bike 😀😀😀