Messerschmitt Me 262 Paul Allen's Original

Just wondering, but what's going on with that fabulous Ju-87?

Magnificent Collection !😊

Didn't those original jet engines have a service life that was only 8 to 10 hours or something utterly ridiculous?

Nice to see this again, I remember them doing taxi trials on the original engines.

That's the gun camera in the nose. That's how they proved there kills.

I was always driving past a place constantly in Ohio where the USAAF had one crash into the road in 1946. I did not know about it till about 5 years ago. And the pilot was the first American pilot to bail out of a jet. The exact spot is now secretive as the property owner had an issue with souvenir hunters coming on his property looking for the bits the AF did not dig out.

I was at a huge auto jumble sale in the 1980s at Beaulieu house motor museum and a Dutch gentleman had a strange flat two stroke engine that he did not know anything about it. As we looked at it a German fella came up and said he was a member of the Hitler youth and he was shown how to start a me 262 and this was the starter motor!!! The Dutch guy was so happy he gave us all a drink of some spirits and every one wanted to know more. Brilliant day out 👍🇬🇧

The starting engine is a very high speed small 2-cycle twin mounted in front of the main engine turbine fan blade. Originally rope started, but later by electric.

looks like a Shark roaming beneath sea level with light reflections on its back! Amazing technical leap at its time similar to the amazement when the F 117 "Night Hawk" first rolled out!

Wow, no mention of where this museum is!! Incredible. Kind of a huge omission there. Especially if you want people to visit that museum.

The machine guns of the 109 are mounted on top of the engine ;-)

The starter motors are 2-stroke Jodels if I remember correctly, and had a pull start from the front of the nacelle! Can't remember exactly, but I thought the German Technical museum in Munich has a cut-away motor?

Love hearing the history of a particular aircraft and its backstory so many videos have a general history but very few give any details. Thank you.

"The main shortcoming was the engines" and they're the "main" weakness only because the engines really were utterly terrible. Apart from that the list of weaknesses is long;
1: The guns were very poor, with low muzzle velocity giving short range & lots of bullet drop.
2: Add to that you've got a very basic gunsight.
3: .....and it carried very little ammo.
4: It couldn't accelerate or stop quickly, making it easy prey for Hawker Tempests, Spitfires & Mustangs on the long, tedious airfield approach that they'd be making all the time, because....
5: It had very poor endurance.
6: It's speed made it hard to spot, but the very smokey engines solved that problem.
7: And all of this assumes that you didn't die in a fireball because the kludged front gear strut was weak, a change brought about by the inability of the design to get its taill off the ground, no matter how fast you went. The problem was that moving to tricycle landing gear meant a very tall gear leg & it had to be fairly light because of weight imbalance problems.

The Germans & their modern day fan boys who all go "Oh, but if they'd had that in 1939..." etc etc can't understand that the Germans didn't have the Wonder Weapons sooner because they didn't think they'd need them & had no way of making them sooner or in the numbers required & that's even IF they'd been able to effectively make a difference. Only one side had a true "Wonder Weapon" & that'd be the Allies with the Atom Bomb.

Amazing how modern looking the ME 262 is compared to first generation British and American jets.
Interesting the nose wheel also has a brake on it.

Definitely recommend the Heritage Museum (Paine Field, near Everett). There are several one of a kind aircraft on display.

It would be the absolute maximum level of human stupidity to fly that jet.

Coolest warbird ever!

Actually they brought most of these aircraft over to Britain, then shared them out!

Can very much understand the taxi only policy it’s not worth the risk if complications arise a complete hull loss would be a tragedy as there is few of these left I suspect

It was being tested in Moses lake to be flown. The future of the collection was up in the air at that time, I was fortunate enough to see it there.

Thank you and thank you Paul Allen for your vision to preserve these historic items.

Hard to believe that was my old Army Reserve units hanger before was moved down to Ft. Lewis in 1996.

God Bless Paul Allen for using his fortune to better the world instead of for tearing it apart. And thank whoever is in charge here for not erasing the swastika from the tail based on some woke nonsense

The ME262 engines has a “pull start” like a lawn mower engine with the Handel mounted in the engine air intake. There’s a perfect example of an intact engine on display at the Air Force museum in Dayton, Ohio.

“Let’s see Paul Allen’s ME-262…”

I have seen the ME-262 and engine at the Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio. I try and visit several times a year as it is not far from my house. It's no doubt the most unique aircraft in the WWII gallery.

There have been several flying replicas built and have flown airshows. In the U.S., the only one I am aware of is operated by the Collings Foundation. I was supposed to fly at an airshow I was going to, but a last minute mechanical/maintenance issue and the plane didn't make it. I believe the replicas use GE engines. A running, original Junkers Jumo engine is TRULY a rare thing!

Would the engine design be more reliable if the parts with inferior materials were replaced with more modern materials?

The original 262's engines were so notoriously unreliable that I sure hope no-one is crazy enough to try and fly it

Not the original eng. , they took the original parts and made them with modern materials that the germans couldn't get. This is why the engines failed in the first place. This plane does fly.....

The original engines had a life of 15 hours.

I'm glad it won't fly. As great as it would be to see, these must be preserved.

The very existence of the Messerschmitt Me-262 is a humiliating slap in the face to anyone who still foolishly believes the Allies had superior aircraft... it's essential to childishly slander and denigrate the Me-262 at every opportunity..

Reidel starters (built into the nose-hub of the Jumo jet-engines) were like the old ski-doo engines we used to putt-putt around on...
The leading-edge Slats were automatically-controlled - but we get what you meant...
Yanks F'd up everything from flying 262s to operating the 'USS Prinz Eugen' ;)
Respect, and subbed eh.

Jumo

There is a complete, but not running ME262 Night fighter in Johannesburg at the war museum. It is the only original complete night fighter in existence.

That camouflage paint scheme doesn't look historically accurate. All the Me-262s I've ever seen were a mottled gray on gray.

why glorify a regime that wanted to enslave the world?

Paul Allens collection was purchased by Steuart Walton who already had an impressive collection of warbirds that he flies himself.

Can't win wars without natural resources.

“Let’s see Paul Allen’s plane…Look at subtle off white coloring of the camouflage; the beautiful thickness of it. My god, the tail even has a watermark!”

WHO is making him new turbine blades? I thought the original engines had such lives on the turbine blades they were measured in hours not even hundreds of FH

Thank you for sharing!

That is the camouflage representative of? Looks like a fighter now w 4 cannon

Lets see if this museum can locate at least one of the four Stukas built with folding wings, intended for the carrier Graf Zeppelin ( which was never made operational ) . The four Ju87's were built, the " C " variation, I think , but I've never heard anything about their fates.

The original Jumo 004 engine design was frozen by Junkers before it was completely developed and as a result will never be safe — even if those on this aircraft have better metal parts than the original. As old as this thing is (almost 80 years) it is inherently dangerous because of metallurgy and fatigue problems in the airframe that the Germans didn’t bother to solve. In other words, if flown there’s some chance that it will suddenly fall apart in midair. The tip of the nose houses a gun camera that’s only activated by firing the 40MM canons. It’s only safe use now is to be a museum exhibit, or to serve as a pattern aircraft for new build Me.262s or models of them. At this late date, this is true of almost all World War II warbirds.

The machine guns on the 109 are on the top of the fuselage in front of the windscreen not the bottom. Beautiful looking 262!