Why I Sold My Vacheron Constantin Overseas

Thank you for the review. Today, I expressed interest in Geneva boutique to buy SS black dial Overseas without complication. Perpetual calendar is not yet in my budget. The attitude in the boutique was superb, and I really liked the watch. You are right that buying watches as an investment is wrong strategy, unless you buy at retail and put it immediately to the vault for several years. In this scenario, there is no enjoyment of wearing the watch which completely messes the enjoyment of collecting. Not my choice.

Better than buying a new Aston Martin vanquish. took one hell of a haircut on that in 5years

I would have sold it because it malfunctioned. I heard VCs aren’t very accurate either… but that’s just me. Thanks for sharing.

Honestly think these are nicer than APs and Rolex. Such a class watch.

Wow the blue Overseas is to die for. The one I like most is the moonphase retrograde date. Could I technically buy one ? Yes, but I think the purchase price and cost of ownership is very high. So I have in my collection catalogue the top 3 unattainable ones - and the VC Overseas blue moonphase is among them. It is a small consolation.

Completely wrong mindset to treat watches as investment. That is why you have the mentality that you lose money when selling it at a lower value. You buy a watch because you like it.

Honesty and transparency. The covid years were just so surreal and I just felt compelled to sell all of my watches except the couple (ironically the cheapest watches I owned) that my father, who has passed away, gave me. Luxury watches are consumables and very very very very few will actually appreciate value in a significant way. You have to get lucky and to pay a lot for basically perfect storage and maintenance to see appreciation. Rebuilding my collection now. I didn't turn down my overseas allocation.

What a load of flim-flam! One minute you said you sold the watch because you hardly wore it (Preferring to wear other people’s watches…. Really?), a few moments later when discussing the price, you said you wore the absolute hell out your watch. Make up your mind - I’m sure the boutique in Singapore can hardly wait for you to go and buy another watch from them, as you allude, because they must love having their brand annihilated by you and your wonky, spoiled, rich kid videos.

Interesting video. I just got a 222 and looking at getting a 4520V in gold with the blue dial now. Surprised to hear you lost so much on the Overseas and it makes me think twice about getting one, but I'm very happy with the 222 and for sure I'll never sell it. I disagree about the Singapore boutique experience though, as I've never received anything more than a bottle of sparkling water, but when visiting the Cartier boutique they always offer me champagne even BEFORE buying the watch. Did you purchase from Ion or MBS?

Honest

My favourite Overseas but the perpetual way above my budget. I tried on the time only in 2016 when they first came out and available but found it a bit too big and I have a 19cm wrist. It will be interesting to see the size of the next generation overseas or perhaps they will expand the 222 range.

I have approximately zero sympathy for rich people who lose money on buying watches they didn't really want and just kinda wanted a shiny thing that they could have for free for a little while. it demeans the really passionate watch collectors without those kinds of means who couldn't care less what value their watches were and weren't lucky enough (yes LUCKY - being Vacheron Perpetual Calendar-level wealthy has literally nothing to do with hard work or intelligence) to be able to fully express their passion. and then we sit through and watch this drivel just so we can see the things that you people barely care about and fret about their value and gush about "the buying experience" because what really matters to you is being pampered. get bent.

I have vacheron constaintin overseas 49150 rose gold no box and no paper,
I wanna sell it,
Can u explain me how to sell it sir?

One VC that is still well above retail on the secondary market is the new 4520V blue dial three-hand Overseas.

It wasn't that long ago that they were begging you to buy the Overseas with blue dial - I've got plenty of emails of them inviting me back into the boutique to try it on - there was no such thing as a waiting list. That VC Perpetual movement needs sorting out - the month dial is almost unreadable. I bought a bespoke early 70's VC in white gold with the same base ultra-thin movement as in your perpetual (the 1121, the date only version) for about £900, pristine condition - that tells you what these things are really worth, and they aren't worth anything like retail.

I would buy sports cars instead.

I am shocked that the rotor stopped working. And you mentioned this occurred in other Vacheron’s too. At this price point free $100 dinner or $20 coffee isn’t enough. All this money is being paid for the quality of the watch, experience is secondary after quality product is delivered. I was planning to buy VC chronograph but I did more research after seeing your video. I don’t think VC deserves to be called a grail watch. Instead A. Lange & Söhne should be in its place as a holy grail and the second option would be JLC. It’s my opinion. But I think everyone would agree with me that at this level and price no matter what the reason might be, they should not malfunction so easily.

Speculators and flippers are gone now so they are now available and below list. AD snobbery across all brands will disappear.

Great video about your pros and cons. Do you have instagram or twitter to contact you / see your watches?

Hi! May I know if they have a service Center in Singapore? Or is there just 1 watchmaker stationed in sg?

What does this kid do for a living?!

because you're a flipper that put too much money into a watch you cant afford. huge poser.

I believe the watch you purchased is beautiful. If you have the disposable income to spend on a watch like that than more power to you. I would be very upset if I lost that kind of money on a watch and I would probably be much more careful in the future. You seem to be OK with it.

My 5500 and 7900v are up 🎉

Way beyond my reach. That said, I love their watches. The Malte, Patrimony Historique collections along with their enamel work is stunning.

If I could afford a Vacheron and Constantin, pre owned would be the way to go, now more than ever.

Thank you for that extraordinarily honest and comprehensive review. I learned a lot. Happy new year to you.

I caught the part where you mention that the 222 is trading 10% under list. However, the VC boutique continue to insist that the 222 isnt a first piece allocation😂. Funny how things work eh😅

Value up or down should not ever be a consideration. Buy what you love and a watch you can buy ANYTIME.

Many watches have always sold new for under suggested retail value, some as much as 40%. It’s only been very recently where watches traded above the retail price.

Don’t buy watches as investments, buy because you love them. And don’t spend more than you can afford.

Hi, thanks for the video. I really liked the standard VC overseas and the dual time but you're right. You get more value buying VC secondhand, even BNIB ones go below MSRP.

Also cheers from Singapore

Why would anyone care why you sold a watch?

Very good video. I look forward to following you.

I've always liked the Overseas but unfortunately I find them to be a tad big for me. Very nice piece

I hate perpetual calendars. You either have to wear them or use a watch winder. They are fragile and complicated.

Can't agree more with you. I anticipate VC to continue go below MSRP. This year their took the direction to release exclusive custom pieces instead of releasing new existing hot models. Honestly, I would not blame VC for the price adjustments. The Richemont group definitely got ahead of themselves in raising their prices. Happened with JLC, Lange, Cartier, Van Cleef. Their online retail side of the business YNAP is losing money for almost a year, they had to do something to try and make money back.

Buy a watch because you like it and not of the depreciating value in my humble opinion. 😊

I’ve also had to sell my 4500V black dial due to not wearing it from my collection. Was very lucky to sell during the peak at over 50% retail. Now I could’ve bought new at slightly under 5-10%. Buy what you like and enjoy, that’s the best advice I received.

Well, you bought it because of hype and you should have known better. GP should never have offered you that piece. LBH.

the purchase process sounds like a scam tbh

that VC was the best watch in your collection by far👍👍

If your financial situation is not stable, why go buy a 140K watch ? Crazy idiot.

Vc makes beautiful watches, no doubt. The problem is the horrible depreciation. People will say buy them used but still does not really save you from the depreciation. When you go to sell it most models are difficult to sell and dealers will want to give you drastically less than you paid if they will even take it at all. Some people believe when you buy something that’s extremely depreciated you getting a good value but you’re really just getting a product that was over priced to begin with and has low demand.

Best blue dial

It is a journey. Appreciated your honesty. 🎉

Rotor failures at that price point is insane.

Enjoyed your watch journey content as always. I hope that your current finanicial situation improves soon. On a different note, I found it interesting that Watchcharts reported the 2nd hand market price for the 4300v is ~S$145k. This seems like a significant difference from the amount you sold it for.

Isn’t this case shape due for a refresh?

Happy to know another watch geek in Singapore