Why Eve Wasn't a "Helper"

Genesis 3:16 is where eve is put under Adam. That makes so much more sense now given the context of her creation

I speak hebrew and this word means to help but you can also translate it to the word helper but I think that the right translation is to help

So ezer... it means that Eve (Heva) is symbolic of Jesus. It's correct from a Christain perspective. She is integral... even critical for his eternal welfare. If she dies... he dies too, but worse... Jesus would have not been born and a redemption might have not happened for him. So until her mission was done... I bet she had as much protective angelic protection as ever existed. As the "mother of them all," she also has ties, in effect, with Mary. Wow. There is so much we don't get to see yet.

Bible Project did some amazing stuff on this!

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False assumption be careful

Paul states, “For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife…For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband?” (1 Cor. 7:14, 16).

If your aware in 2024 then you know John Knox was absolutely correct

i wont 100% belive in the bible until i can be sure whats in ther is translated correctly or hasent ben tweaked from the truth

Eve a rescuer 🛟 of Adam, lil hard to digest, seeing that the husband is ordained by God to be the provider & protector ( rescuer) of his wife, not other way around.
However, Eve as helper (ezer) is intended to be a great assistance to Adam as Queen ( overseer) 👸🏽 Mother ( care taker) of her family.
This places Eve in a strategic role on the chess board, tho Adam in the garden 🪴 indeed abdicated his throne on the chessboard by not protecting his wife from the beguilement of another man entity aka Satan.
Apparently the question here is:
was Adam truly a rescuer (ezer) or something else? It appears that Adam suffered from some type of role confusion as ezer, Eve then took charge & made him eat fruit in defiance… even after being solely directed by God himself. Adam then does the Narc thing when confronted by God & blames Eve. …Fascinating Story that I’m sure we’re missing significant info on.
But yes, referring back to the original Hebrew scripture for hermeneutical purposes is indeed imperative when looking to correctly decider YHWH’s Word & their ultimately true meanings.

While it is my belief that men were made to be leaders, women have their role that compliment men as well. A strong woman isnt necessarily someone that can do all the things a man can do, its a person that can do all if the things a man cant do, and that is what makes her so desirable. So helper us a fine translation due to a womans ability to make up all if what is missing in him and vice/ versa.

Also, eve was not Adams savior, but more the opposite. She was tempted by the serpent, and convinced adam to turn from YHWY.

No, God is called our helper. Nothing subservient there.
Stop your dumb conspiracy theories.

well. eve wasn't created from adams rib cause the one of translation of the word means salvation and if you look on meaning from eve's name you get life giver. Put that in the whole line and look on Jesus.

"Monstriferous Empire of Women" sounds pretty badass though

Help meet.

I read once that the wife is the jewel in the man's crown.

Or, hear me out, its also languages that are not perfectly translateable into others, and context is required when reading old text. You know, kind of what luther meant, but it all got lost in translation (pun intended)

Yeah it was never meant to be servant helper. Even when I was a kid. Eve came from his rib. His side. She's meant to be at his side. Men and women should be a team, not enemies.

And 1 Corinthians 11:3 says:
"But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God."

While we shouldn't infer inferiority from any of these passages, there certainly is subordination or headship if you will. Which, again, doesn't make the woman any less than the man, but this video does almost seem like an over-correction.

Nice try - But you are ignoring the rest of the bible - eg: Paul and Timothy on the role of women and men.

I can't belive that are actual grownups believing the Adam and Eve story is real, then debating it.

Stop subverting the Holy Scripture

Would it be better to call Eve his complement or other half?

"Ezer Kenegdo"... Genesis 2:18

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It’s also important that people understand that the meaning of that word in the context it was written has changed like many words in the language today. Nimrod was a skilled hunter but now it just means idiot.

Nimrod may not have limited his hunting to animal game and treated his neighbours as if they were deer or gazelle. Thus, the expression ‘before the LORD’ (Genesis 10.9) should be taken in the negative sense, ‘against the LORD’. Nimrod was an affront to God and man because he sought to rule over people tyrannically this coining him a tyrant.

"Adam, this is Eve, she's your rescuer."
"Oh ok. Hi Eve, I'm Adam... wait what am I being rescued from?"
"Hi, I'm Eve. I'm going to listen to a talking snake who's most likely the devil and have the 2 of us eat the forbidden fruit, thus banishing us from Eden & effectively making all of our descendants suffer."
"Doesn't sound like a good rescue plan. Also, what am I being res-"
"Oh the rescuing will be done by someone else."
"Then why are you... never mind, so who's the real rescuer?"
"Me."
gasps

look for the helpers.

Whaaaaaat...but it's the infallible perfect unchanging word of gawd....it can't have been altered or it would be,.........just a book.

Feminists just can't accept that the Bible says women are supposed to be subservient to men. Paul also talks about it in the new testament. Men are to be the authority figure of the family. But that does not make women less valuable. In the same way, Christ is subservient to the Father, but he is equal to him. He just has a different role.

I love this. Thanks for sharing.

Ah, "andro-centrism", another canard of the woke agenda. Seriously? Sure, we all know about "patriarchy". But this is needless nitpicking, sophistry. Making a semantic mountain out of a molehill. You've just substituted one erroneous agenda for an earlier one that may or may not have been one to begin with. And, anyone who says that Western women in general are not currently out of control is delusional. There was a reason Eve was created as a helper. And that the roles of men and women are largely complementary. But, of course, us moderns are waaaaay too sophisticates for all that determinative talk. The result is the chaos of "gender fluidity". Insanity is preferred to order.

Scripture interprets scripture, so when doing a word study and assuming the Holy Spirit is the expresser of words and ideas then the word would MEAN the servant not the rescuer because the panoply of Holy Writ makes it clear that their is a hierarchical relationship between the Man & the Woman she is to be demure, silent in matters of teaching doctrine to men, etc. The lowering of man is always prevalent in not redeemed "did God really say..." unregenerated incapable of doing it the right way individuals. No belittling of women on my part, it is just the way it is when rightly handling the word of truth.

This might be correct but there’s nothing wrong with the word being translated to helper either. It’s still an accurate description of eves role in the genesis narrative and I’ve never found it demeaning in the slightest.

80% of Americans are puzzled by all those squiggles. They think the Bahbuhl was originally written in English, and not very good English at that.

It's not necessarily android centrism, or at least you can't prove that it is, unless you read the minds of those translators centuries ago.

If you believe in sola scriptura, it would also mean a wrong translation made it into the bible without the knowledge of many folks who think it's correct & by extension, accept it as the word of God.

Help & rescue can be synonymous in certain contexts. Using "helper" doesn't mean the translators meant subservience or side kick. They could just have easily meant aid, rescue, saviour, etc, just as you would if you said "when I was late for my interview at college xyz & lost on its campus, Rob HELPED me find my way. He was my HELPER that day".

So she "rescued" him by leading him into DEATH?... um ok SURE

It takes more than a concordance to be a theologian.

Knox's comment about battling the kingdom of women was referring to "Bloody Mary" Queen of Scotts from he was exiled... Little historical context puts things in better perspective....

Why does Eve look like a toad in this picture? No way the only perfect woman created by God himself could have been so ugly.

Just like this is influenced by a feminist

why _magnify isn't a ''reliable channel''

Rescuer? The first time we let a woman choose the restaurant, all of creation was lost. No offense

Cap.

Rescued by being tempted by the serpent....

Not seeing it honestly.

Just vow🎉

In the king James version the word used as a translation is helpmeet which means a companion.

in Chinese Bible, the most popular translation(CUV) says "I will make him a spouse to help him" and the second most popular translation(CNV) says "i will make him a helper who matches him"

It's "ezer" as in "ebenezer". "Et-zer" sounds like you're trying to make it Italian 🙃

The NET translation has this note for the verse. I believe helper is still a valid word choice for translation, but it is easily misunderstood because it can mean different things, include subservient. NET note: “tn Traditionally ‘helper.’ The English word ‘helper,’ because it can connote so many different ideas, does not accurately convey the connotation of the Hebrew word oy ('ezer). Usage of the Hebrew term does not suggest a subordinate role, a connotation which English ‘helper’ can have. In the Bible God is frequently described as the ‘helper,’ the one who does for us what we cannot do for ourselves, the one who meets our needs. In this context the word seems to express the idea of an ‘indispensable companion.’ The woman would supply what the man was lacking in the design of creation and logically it would follow that the man would supply what she was lacking, although that is not stated here. See further M. L. Rosenzweig, ‘A Helper Equal to Him,’ Jud 139 (1986): 277-80.”