Ron Holland Introduced As Detroit Piston, What's The Future For The Pistons Young Core Now?

Ayyyyye! What a duo!

Trade Ivey.

I think its reasomable that hollands defence is bettef than shown with the ignite because he has an almost 30% useage as an 18yo in his first year in a mens professional league.
I expect his D will be a lot better in a simplified role with the pistons.

No discussion of Wendell Moore Jr? Lol

Ku ,you keep lifting Cade up. I like Cade too and I think he will be a very good player. I can't say great yet. But let me ask you this question. If you think Cade is the man and with him being a point guard. Why the hell hasn't he helped make the other players around him better? That's what great players do. Make others around them better. The reason I said that. It's seems like you keep putting Ivey down without talking about the fact that Monty screwed with this young man confidence. By most metrics, he had a good rookie campaign, then Monty came in and played sorry ass Killian over him. Yanked his chain when he felt like it. How many young men could handle that situation, not knowing of he made a mistake he wouldn't play.

Good trade

What the heck are you talking about if Ivey and Duren are going to be ok coming off the bench, going into a second contract. If you don't think they southland be starting, what team in the league will want them start?

I can't wait until Ku realizes Cade is getting trade in a few months. Hopefully Langdon can turn nickels into dimes, and then dimes into quarters.

The more I hear this talk about nobody fitting with Cade, I can't help but think we need a real PG. Team ball over Cadeball. We should have gotten Dejounte.

Funny, a year ago i said that they should only have two of the core four starting and two off the bench.

If Trajan uses desire to be in Detroit as a factor, for which young guys to trade, I think that puts Duren at the top of the trade list. Ivey makes the most sense if you keep Cade at pg though.

Thanks for having Bryce on! He rocks! Good show!

Ku, love all the cross content with other Pistons content creators, keep it coming

This Cade hate is asinine. He's the only piece on this team that has All-NBA potential and people act like he's expendable or even the problem with the team. That shit is crazy to me

Ku a Ivey hater, Ivey is perfectly fine to play alongside Cade not a 1st year holland who shoots 24% from 3, Ausar shoots 16% from 3 and with horrid splits like that from ft and 3 he can’t play with another non shooting C (which happens to be 98% of centers in the league) without drastic improvement he can’t play big minutes

How could THJ be the 2nd scorer yet J.I averaged more points than him in a year he played for a coach that hated him for no reason? J.I also averaged close to 19 without Cade and led team to wins while being the hub of offense

It seems like Trajan is a patient person. We HAVE to at least see with our own eyes that Ivey and Duren haven’t improved over the summer/beginning part of the season in their trouble areas. Let’s get some shooting this offseason and see if the young guys improved. If not, they might need to be moved or take a different role.

This place is becoming WoodwardSports with all the negativity.

Trajan is not trading anyone of Detroit's top players anytime soon. Pistons fans are completely scarred by the past few years from all the losing...Trajan isn't....trading the core is something a desperate Troy was going to do hoping to save his job however hes gone and with him goes the quick fix.

Everyone needs to take a deep breath, realize Trajan hired Fred Vinson to do a JOB (fix shooting) Hes worked miracles with several wing non-shooters like Lonzo, Herb Jones, Naji Marshall, ect. immediately.... so why would Trajan start trading guys right after hiring the shot Dr?......that makes no sense.

Lets all chill n let this man do his job.

We went from develope guys like Ivey and Duren. Who has showed he may be a 4 who can shoot like bam. No one is coming here until we put the players in place. 4 years of no prospect development or empowerment. We need to change that. You also don't need everyone to shoot 3's. The game we won we were physical in the paint and attacking. And no one was going to trade up to 5 in this draft. The pick swaps happened later on. And Dalton at 5 then?? Free agency at this point will be used for us to get picks. Like weaver should have done. This rebuild is now at phase 1 again. They got better defensively and we have 2 wings. We have to be patient and see what our guys can do and how we can help them. Included in cuts and post plays for Ausar. Also Ivey and Duren have a hell of a connection with P&Rs. Ivey can play with Cade he was hitting 3s befote Monty. Killed his production for Killian hayes. Stew also needs a dribble. Teams allow him to shoot that three and when they press up on him. He can't dribble. IT isn't a stretch he should take 2 to 3 threes only. No one guards him he is wide open. He also can't cover bigs or stretch 4s or even small ball 3s. Yet no one mentions how he is undersized and it hurts. His reb is down and Duren is reb vs 2 guys. This is a team game and we need to develop our pieces. Even Cade what is Cade good at offensively?? Its a show ya skills year for Cade. His mid is elite its all about the fouls he doesn't get. He needs to put guys on his back like luka and like how he did for team USA.

I don’t know a JI, Ausar, Holland in transition kind seems unstoppable

Ku is all u care about is Cade?

Grimes never put Pistons on his Insta.Also put YES CHEF yesterday probably when he found out he was getting traded. Didn’t wanna be here.

You hire Fred vinson then trade your only 3-D guy with a jumper that is worth a s*** for a bum. It's impossible to understate THJ's negligible impact on winning basketball. And if a shot chucking ball stopper is your idea of "veteran presence" you're an idiot.

Clown organization

love the picks...imo spurs would of take Holland ..i believe castle, Holland n tijan were poppys 3 guys..it wasn't feasible for spurs to trade 8th pkn wait 7 yrs for return in 2031

I wouldn’t Trade Cade! That is Retarded and the pistons didn’t get better by trading GHill. We lost GHill to Orlando and we got a SNT for Atkins and Ben Wallace.

We didn’t get any compensation, Wallace just was a freak of nature and we built a team around Defense.

Ku, Grimes literally did NOTHING. Pistons fans need to stop valuing mediocre players that mean nothing in today’s NBA. GRIMES IS NOBODY.

Let me just say that Ron Holland can dribble with his off hand better than Killian Hayes 😂. He can straight line drive with force to the left almost as hard as to the right.

THJ can win you 30 games… but bricks you out of the other 52. On Dallas he isn’t a great fit because he isn’t a good defender. he can get nuclear but will have long and cold cold stretches

Just trade for Devin Booker. We would then have our scorers. Our defenders. And our rebounder. Cmon Detroit bring Book home

It's time to trade cade he too needy

When Holland is the talk of summer league in a couple of weeks, I wanna hear everybody keep that same energy that I’m hearing now about him. He can’t shoot “yet” but I guarantee he’s gonna change the chatter during summer league

I’ll admit I was pissed when they chose holland. Not because I didn’t like the kid, it was because we desperately need shooting. I was also upset they traded grimes for hardaway. I felt grimes didn’t really get a chance. But after I calmed down I’m gonna wait to see what else they do. Maybe he has a detailed plan. So I’m gonna sit back and watch before I make judgement

Pistons are building a young running team that’s how you develop your young guys let them get out and run I think we should trade Cade he’s to slow he like to run half court offense but the team is to young for that plus Cade has the high value and it doesn’t look like where building around Cade at all but building around Ivey

So when are they gonna hire a coach? 🤷🏽‍♂️ insane! Who’s coaching summer league. This franchise man smh

Missed u and Bryce 🔥 episode

Pistons fans really act like Grimes is good but he’s not

😂😂 awkward having no coaching hired? prospects non interviewed.. The Who Rock classic "who are you" Coaching musical chair club

Grimes would have to get paid. I dont think Trajan wanted to pay him, so he got moved. We'll have to wait and see if that decision was right or wrong. As far as Bojan and Burks, it is completely irrelevant for Trajan. You attaching that is showing your inability to compartmentalize and maybe your emotions are involved.

Hater

Langdon must have really disliked Grimes.

It’s funny he says “ppl develop emotional attachment to players” but u was the one backing Hayes even wen the world knew he wasn’t good lol😂

Hey I love you Ku keep slaying

IVEY HAS TO PLAY WITH ANOTHER COACH. PERIOD! Monty sabotaged him for ONE ENTIRE SEASON! Trade Ivey know is a dumb move… Duren must come from the bench, too young! Both have to stay at least one more year!

It makes sense why you're saying Cade, Ausar, and Holland are the guys but does that frontcourt lineup really make sense? It's still a major projection to have Ausar playing the two. Holland can probably give minutes at the four but there's no way you want him playing the majority of his minutes there. It could be that Trajon is anticipating drafting a PF at five next season, which is a must better draft.

Also I totally disagree with the idea that the way to build a team is to cater to the egos of a bunch of lazy, immature, mediocre players who never earned their positions on the team.

This was a great trade... Ku you always talk about stock piling picks. Grimes always injured and I don't see the shot. I'll take this one year and picks.

Love the pod but the Spotify needs to be turned up a lot. Super quiet.