NO MORE Pops Clicks & Static on VINYL RECORDS?

NEVER PUT "TERGIKLEEN" IN THE DEGRITTER!!!! This direct from the folks at Degritter. You were doing it properly at first. Clean the vinyl record with Tergikleen first, Then I rinse with Distilled Water in a garden pressure sprayer, in a bathtub, to remove as much Tergikleen as I can. Then I put it in the Degritter. If the record revolves and has soap foam on it (way, way too much in the video!) it wasn't rinsed well enough in the tub. I do 1 or 2 cycles in Degritter with a light detergent/wetting agent (no foam) then 1 or 2 cycles with the Rinse Only tank of pure Distilled Water.
I understand that the Degritter will not remove/break down oil based contaminants (finger prints, NEW vinyl with manufacturing contaminants). Pre washing with Tergikleen (I spin mine in a Spin Clean filled with dist.water/Terg mixed 10 drops per gallon) breaks down the oil based contaminants and cleans the vinyl really well. Then IMMEDIATELY rinse.

But however you decide to proceed, PLEASE, Don't Use Tergikleen In Your Degritter!!!!!!!!

My takeaway from your video: vinyl records are for people who don’t like to listen to music.

Is moving magnet or moving coil better AND do either hold a charge that contributes to pop and clicks? To put it simply, electrostatic charges can't be grounded and discharged away, they need to have an ionic breeze blown across. Makes me wonder if a turntable should have an antistatic fan like what is used with sensitive integrated circuit lab bench setups.

Didn't occur to me that dust might cause all that extra unwanted noise. There are actual ultrasonic I think whole record cleaners. Techmoan may have several videos, certainly on records. He has every format and player for any type of media that has ever existed, lol.

Always play a record first before you clean them the stylus gets all the crap out of the grooves. 40+ years experience of playing records

So you paid £100+ pound for a makeup brush 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Listening to the comparison between washes and non-wash, I don't think the difference justifies everyone who wants to listen to vinyl, buying a 2800 euros vinyl cleaning machine. But I'm glad that someone has the money to buy them, so I can send some vinyls that need a serious cleaning process and pay for that service. 🙂

poor Captain Kirk, he would never imagine how his spaceship would end…

CD/SACD for me every time great sound quality with decent gear.

Hundreds, if not thousands of pounds spent so you can sit and listen to the perfect sounds of some of the most boring, middle of the road records ever put on vinyl. However near to technical perfection you get in terms of audio fidelity, it's never going to make the majority of those albums worth listening to.

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Great review. I would like to have seen you use the Furutech directly on the TT.

I've been using the Thunderon antistatic brush on both the record and the platter mat. This method indefinitely dissipates static.

Those brushes were pretty effective until you started rubbing your hands all over the bristles. Now the oil of your hands will be all over your records after this video.

i actually did not hear a significance difference from the sample you played

I washed my old Jimmy Swaggarts with bottled water, dishwashing liquid and a spongy. Old Jimmy needed a wash. Plays well.

Imagine... all that time spent cleaning could have been used actually listening to music. Such a shame. I get it. Some people use audio equipment to listen to music and some people use music to listen to their audio system. To each their own. Rock on!

A word of caution regarding de-static devices, don't use them in close proximity to any grounding boxes if you own them. I know a fellow who destroyed his entire set of Entreq ground-boxes by using a de-stat device too close to the ground boxes, and basically killed them. Factory was good enough to replace them but he was down for weeks and much hassle getting back to listening mode.

First off, when you play your records, PUT THE LID ON THE TURNTABLE!! Or, if it doesn't come off, keep it down as you play the record!!
Secondly, the blue sleeve used on that Norah Jones album is made of a type of paper tat HAS lots of static in it, that's why it's so hard to get the record out! That, along with the record itself moving around IN the sleeve during shipping and what have you is gonna help build up more static, just like if you rub your shoes across a carpet certain times of the year, you can shock people when you touch them, or rubbing a balloon across your shirt.
Thirdly, IF you're GOING to use a liquid record cleaner, do NOT use Discwasher! All it does is CLOG the grooves! I used to use it and didn't understand why every record I cleaned with it had a cloudy blue tint to it afterwards. One day,I bought a brand new copy of "Abbey Road" and cleaned it with D3 before I played it. It still sounded a bit dusty so, I cleaned it again. During the 2nd playing, it sounded even worse! So, I cleaned it again and then, the needle wouldn't even track the grooves completely and the record sounded worse than the original copy I bought back in `69!! I took a close look at the needle and saw a HUGE clump of st5uff piled up on it so, I got my needle duster and cleaned that shit off, played the record some more and it still sounded horrible! After a minute of two, it was still skipping across the record! Another look at the needle showed another big clump of shit on it!! From that point on, I never used D3 again!! I've had that album for at least 30 years and still can't play it for all the shit in the grooves!!
I don't hear much of a difference between the first and 2nd wash.

Hi -an additional "option" to test (if you agree in my theory). According to scientific experiments you are able to knock out the electrons by exposing static charged material to UV-light. If this work, it could be a fast and substance-free cleaning of the static noise of the record. Is it a test worth? It would be my contribution to your well made video of the subject. Thanks 🙂

Vinyl is nonsensical

Just slip in a CD,already.
Problem solved.
Money saved.

I lived through the vinyl era. Sorry but all this expensive fuss, time and expense is completely bonkers to me.

I'm more than happy with all of my digital audio files and Blu-ray discs. No fuss, no muss.

That was a scientific test you don't have to be a scientist to do a scientific test

One question and one suggestion… :

firstly, what is the difference, sonically, between a record that has static and one that has been eliminated from static (can you demonstrate this, maybe with a ‘blank grooved’ portion of a record (if it is supposed to be noise and ‘clicks’ )

Secondly, the technique, as I understood it, with the Project/Audioquest style short bristle carbon fibre brush, is to hold it vertically VERY GENTLY over the record as it revolves and slowly and gradually move the brush centrally until the metal band touches the centre spindle and discharges (I often hear a ‘click’ through the speakers as this happens) …maybe you should try this method and see if it makes an appreciable difference to residual static.

The sound has a lot to do with the listening experience but there’s more to it than that. There’s something about vinyl that just feels more organic. It seems like there’s more of a human element that draws a younger crowd like myself. It’s sort of a brief escape from the digital realm. Also nostalgia. As a kid I spent hours with my dad’s records on a decent system back in the early to mid eighties.

People attend live performances at stadiums, at clubs and at concert halls and then they rave, afterwards, about how enjoyable the event was. Somehow, the din, the lousy acoustics, the ramped up volume, and the many distractions around each listener are simply set aside and ignored. These same people then claim albums sound better than CD's. Live music events are all about the 'being there' experience. Albums are all about the tactile experience they offer, the nostalgia they bring to the moment, and the emotional and visual pleasure people derive from the turntable when it's playing an album. Hiss, clicks, pops and distortion that are inherent in every album's playback are simply ignored just as those many distractions are dismissed at those live performances. A new album might offer a near perfect playback once, however repeated playback wears down the vinyl and those imperfections are heightened with each spin. Worse yet, the better the system, the more revealing it is of those hiss, clicks and pops. A pair of very nice speakers with a decent integrated amplifier and a modest CD player will produce crystal clear, imperfection free sound from a CD again and again and again. Add tube amplification and you can achieve an even greater, live, 'being there' soundstage without any of the distractions one accepts at a live performance. And, yes, I was born in 1960. I went through the entire inventory of music offerings from AM radio, to AM/FM radio, to albums, to cassettes, to 8-Tracks, to CD's and now streaming. Tapes were awful. Period. Albums have great cover art, fun gatefold inclusions, and some even have the lyrics on the album sleeve. CD case are quite limited unless you purchase a box set with inclusions. However, when it comes to clear, clean, playback, digital is far superior. No one can claim otherwise without the need to justify their aesthetic passion for albums. And, anyone making claims that albums sound warmer than CD's haven't heard a high end tube amplification system, or, again, they need to justify their aesthetic passion for albums. My wife and I love to listen to music. We put some money forward to assemble a very nice, far from over-the-top system to listen to CD's exclusively. This system was assembled after a lengthy, 6-month demo period at three different, high end stores: a dozen or so lengthy visits in total. We compared tubes versus solid state, CD versus Album playback, integrated versus separates, and we did these many comparisons swapping components in and out of the system with the same songs played repeatedly. A $5000 CD player offers little to no audible improvement over a $150 CD player. TT's revealed marginal improvement when comparing large price differences. Separates versus integrated offered no audible difference. MOST of these claims are fueled by strong marketing campaigns to elevate bottom line results at the store as well. The most absurd comparison was cables and speaker wires. My goodness anyone who claims they can hear any difference between different cables or different speaker wires is being played. From our experience, I recommend that you allocate 90% of the budget to the speakers and grab an integrated amplifier (tube or solid state as desired) and a basic CD player.

I love that Norah Jones album its my Sunday morning chill out pleasure. I only have it on CD though i may have to try the vinyl because ive just got a Rega P3 turntable.

The reasons for a LP include warmth and the imperfections of the sound. Why not listen to flac or like if you don’t like the imperfections?

There was no change at all.

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Thanks for this. Has helped me to stop concerning myself with alot of the nonsense in the vinyl collection hobby.

Bygumby, I enjoy purchasing stuff.....especially if I can play with it.

I'm plagued by static, have tried everything – particularly unimpressed by the Milty anti-stat gun. But the Furutech Destat III really does look like the magic ingredient, more important than anything else. If you had a limited sum to invest and could choose between upgrading from vacuum to Degritter, or buying a Destat III it seems the latter is the obvious option. I wonder if I dare take the plunge. A very stimulating video!

I’ve watched hours of videos on this topic, and yours is one of the clearer ones I’ve viewed. Could be a bit better though. I would consider an ‘outline’ approach. Identify the challenges (dust, oily dirt, static). Describe the tools (Dry Clean = brush or cloth; Wet Clean = Plain Bath, Electrically Aided Bath; Static = Wand or DeIonizer). Then report methods used and results achieved. You could probably use much of the same footage, just frame it a bit better.

On the other hand, your conversational style, and your passion, came across quite well, too. So maybe don’t mess with what works for you.

Dude....chill, its all part of the experience. When the music gets going you won't notice 😂.....if not stick with streaming or for the best of digital.....a cd player.

A lot of the comments are addressed to me records or those that have been cared for, I buy a lot of used albums some of which while are not damaged are really dirty with heavens knows what. The use of ultrasonic cleaning is the way to go. I got a fantastic setup off eBay for less than $200. It cleans six albums at a time and has a drying rack. I use fluid made up of distilled water, a little pure alcohol ( available for cheap from my local weed growers store for $13 a half gallon) and a sufficant from Amazon, again cheap my results are amazing, I just use a Zerostat system I’ve had for years and most of my albums play pop and crackle free. I have a Linn LP12 which I refurbished, I couldn’t afford a new one and I’m more than happy !

Thank god we moved on and leave shitnyls behind... MP3, FLAC, AAC, OGG, HiRes audio. Even my car can handle ALL those.

or you can use mp3 at 128kbps

I grew up with vinyl, and I learned to h a t e vinyl.
Mainly because of pops, skips and static electricity.
I started to collect CDs and learned to love them.
Because to these ears it sounded better and I can play them in my car.
No pops, no skips and takes up a smaller space in my house.
Yeah album art is the main difference, but it's the skipless and popless music that matters to me.
Taking care of vinyl is just too much trouble for me to worry about.
Vinyl is super overrated.

Watching this video made me realise how much time I spend on preparing my records before I listen to them. I wash once, put into the MoFi sleeve. When listening, I brush and zerostat the record. Happy days.

what about cleaning shellac 78 records?

A simple cheap plasma arc lighter is quite good at eliminating static from records.

You hold it a small distance from the surface about an inch or two away about the same as the Destat device.
Mover it around the whole surface, pretty much the same as the Destat device going around the record. You can even do it while it’s spinning on the turntable without any problems.

It’s cheap and easy and best of all it works well.

Try the furutech demagnetizer on the records and listen to the before and after. It works! Why? Because albums like that Metallica that have those weird dyes in them contain metal particles.

I think different manufacturers have different methods and I'm sure there's a level of packaging that they charge extra for. There is one artist I enjoy and I thought it would be nice to have the record to go along with the CD and compare. They literally just shoved it in the cardboard sleeve! So there's a lot of cardboard shavings that I need to clean out before I can use it. Now I didn't directly grow up with records but I grew up with records and cassettes and all of the records we have they came with sleeves. So either they slacked off on the sleeve and cleaning at the factory or that was an extra higher subscription tear for the artist to get manufactured. But I know records were originally sold with sleeves and this one didn't come with one probably because it's the fan purchase hang on wall level rather than actual music quality level which I'm sure costs more because they're pushing the cost onto the artist.

I have over 5,000 vinyl records and what I use to clean them very successfully is the German product called DISKO ANTISTAT II. I had a catastrophe where they were stored as a friends, (no names - TONY !!😁), ceiling collapsed in their Attic and they didn't know. Plaster dust and rain got into the records, but after getting some of the sleeves that were totally ruined off the records, I've cleaned them up to almost brand spanking new. All except for 23 outta 5.000. My record collection started in 1973. I recommend Disko Antistat II. It comes as a complete kit, trough, holding heel, It has goat hair bristle brush & comes with sealing tool to protect labels (does 7 inch and 78s equally well too), 12 record drying rack & funnel and loads of filters to reuse the solution that comes with it. You can also buy the solution separately. Got mine from Amazon. Cheers, Clive - Spyda Music Productions 😎

180 pound brush oh my word, that is definitely worse, and it left more static hahaha

Record cleaning is a rabbit hole - and a very expensive one to fall down, given that the Degritter 2 costs £2500. I've been cleaning vinyl for 45 years now and, at the age of 60, have finally found my ideal solution (literally). After some research I decided to buy 10mls of generic Tergitol. This cost me £5. Then I bought 4 microfibre cloths from Aldi (£1.99). After giving up on trying to get distilled water I just use double filtered and boiled tap water.Each of my 4 cloths has it's dedicated function (Wiping, washing, rinsing and drying). I then play the record, as this is part of the cleaning process, as some residue will be picked up by the stylus, depending on the condition of the record, cleaning the stylus after every 2 or 3 tracks. In all the process takes around 15 minutes per album (plus the playing time). Ok, it's a bit more hands-on than a machine, but not much.The other thing I will mention is the most miraculous of all. Stylus cleaning. Get yourself a Melamine sponge (I use Mr Siga, about £2 in hardware shops, also known in America as Magic Eraser) and gently drop your stylus onto it using the cueing arm. Do not scape it or move it around as this will damage the stylus. Just lift it up and down 2 or 3 times. Then play the record and prepare to be amazed. Of course, like everyone, you will not believe that this will work. No one does until they try it. I certainly didn't. But this little tweak has me using my 40 year old cartridge with it's original stylus (Ortofon ff15e mk2) on an LP12, and wondering why I considered buying a new one. My 45+ year old vinyl now sounds better than it ever has before and all for less than a tenner. Phew....

Humidity control in the room is very important and possibly earth grounding an underlying anti static mat so the static charge has somewhere to go. Room humidity above 55% will nearly eliminate static on any surfaces.

Try CDs, virtually no clicks.