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Personally, I didn’t really care the final grade of the Dioscuri, they were my top 1 hated characters in all fate franchises not because they accurately wrong, not because I didn’t like design (they’re good), but because the writers made a “too way” great job on making me hate them. (My top 2 hated is morgan cause domino effect and top 3 is Artemis (who the f*ck is that brainless bimbo wannabe and where the hell is the badass goddess of hunt!!!)).
The funniest thing of all, is that Caenis was supposed to be my top 1 hated character, but when the Dioscuri appears and began to act, my mind was like “holy hell! Those guys are worse” and the more lostbelt 5 progresses, I began to respect more caenis (despite I still didn’t like him) and to hate more the Dioscuri.
Great video anyway and sorry if my wasn’t good
with the last chocolate with pollux I think its a knuckle duster referencing boxing
ОтветитьOh god, not them again
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I can understand how you're supposed to write the antagonist of the story not likable for the sake of satisfaction to see their downfall, but it's also bad when they're going to be playable because they should be likable for players to want to get them. And the funny part is they did too good of a job, a lot of people (me included) hate their guts. I mean, at least Pollux we summoned is nicer but Castor? F*** that guy! I'd use any "inferior" ST Sabers over them in a heartbeat (And I don't have them yet, so I never have to decide it) in fact, I still have Musashi as my top ST Saber, and Trung Sisters if I want to use ST Arts Saber.
ОтветитьOther commented it as well but believe the design you were drawing a blank on may be either the design on her abdomen or laurel wreath crown.
Also i have no clue how the hell i completed their interlude without actually ever pulling them but definitely remember having done so sometime within the year.
What’s even weirder is that nobody in game questions the gender flip at all.
I know it’s joked that everyone’s used to it by now but even then there’s at least a brief mention like with Danzo. But Dioscuri?
It’s not mentioned at all. It’s as though Pollux actually is just female in FGO’s universe.
The whole situation between theseus and helen could have been a better justification for the avenger class.
ОтветитьI hope someday we'll get Helen and Clytemnestra as servants because it will be interesting to see their interaction with Castor and Pollux
ОтветитьSanta Karna is a saber cause Japanese pun
ОтветитьIt feel like Sakurai just want to be cheeky with mythology being change over time without actually thinking about how it actually work. Not surprising since she is also the same one who handle most of Rome related servant minus Nero which is handle by Nasu only when she's in Extra game/Extra storyline in FGO, Constantine is probably under Higashide's responsibility.
ОтветитьAmazing video Yurie, and Happy Thanksgiving friend🦃
God Bless😇✝️
Literally the guardians of cavalrymen and sailors. Mostly depicted with horses and spears (sometimes even as horses).
Fate/GO Ah yes a saber class Servant.
First Tristan and now Dioscuri, how many servents got a bad first impression.
ОтветитьCastor Gave Hercules a Golden Sword in one Myth and thaught him Fencing
As For Avenger some Myths call him a Mortal while others call him a God
So I guess in Fate going to God to Human made him Very Angry
Also NP wise the np discription references Homer's "Hymn of the divine twins"
It’s impressive how precise you are with historical information, do you have any kind of History degree?
Good video btw, didn’t even know those two but they look cool
in my opinion as good as atlantis/olympus are, a lot of the servants that appeared in there didnt have a good impression, alongside caenis and the dioscuri i remember disliking odysseus a lot too(despite liking their designs)
i think the writers knew that the nasuverse has a lot of (both human and servant) hateable characters and wanted to make them stand out a little but they ended up pushing the envelope a little too hard while not giving us enough reasons to actually enjoy them at first
Regarding why Castor is an Avenger, even within PHH he claims to be against humanity for turning him from divine to mortal.
This is because even if the (more recent) consensus is that he's from Tyndareus, some versions make Pollux son of Tyndareus too (like the Odyssey) and others make Castor ALSO son of Zeus (specifically the Hesiodic Catalogue). Considering they're also Syncretizing the twins with the older versions of the nameless twin gods, they went with "legends transformed Castor into a mortal after the fact", something close to Innocent Monster.
You seem to have told the nicest version of the Dioscuri's death, since they didn't kidnap any bribes, but it still seems like it was entirely their fault. They accepted an eating contest, and they lost it. But they wouldn't keep their word and tried to steal the cows anyways. And when they got caught, fought, and lost, they were bailed out by Big Daddy Zeus. I don't think Lostbelt Dioscuri are really out of character.
ОтветитьNice video as always!! By the way, they come back in the main story during the Avengers Ordeal Call, so we may get some more from them in the future. Asides from that I also don't think they have much more going on.
ОтветитьFun fact i learned not long ago. The kanji for punch is the same for sword. Yes the whole boxers are sabers bit is a play on words
ОтветитьTo be completely honest, if it wasn't for your old video about sanson, I'd continue disliking him for his role in Orleans. Maybe this video will have a similar influence on other people.
ОтветитьThey have a moment in a Halloween event (I want to say Cinder-Eli) where they give candy to child servants. That’s the only event you didn’t mention that springs to mind (in NA at least. Does anyone know if they get an appearance in JP?
ОтветитьI think that the original Dioscuri are hateable enough, they are fundamentally just macho men that kill things really well and steal cattle. Making a pair of brutes that only respect strength would have worked enough, sure they are also protectors of sailors, but their main point Is to murder people
ОтветитьCastor trades sword blow with Heracles during the Argo so tht could explain the saber class (even though Pollux use the sword.)
ОтветитьOne thing I just noticed that I really like is that Castor is the ome who mentions that their love for each other is what makes them shine in the night sky. It must have been such a powerful moment to hear your brother choose you over inmortality
ОтветитьWe summoned a fuse between lostbelt and properhu an history just like with iverb the terrible
ОтветитьThey also apeared i ladt years halloween evebt where cadtor activly played with the kids and gave them candys for trickor treat
Ответитьthe king of conquers is next
ОтветитьEven though you had a bit of a hard time I do think the video ended up really well! lots of fun little additions, coverage was good, and even got them some time to tell us about their good side. The result is really fun to watch still!
ОтветитьTheir final ascension is 69
ОтветитьOne funny fact is that how they are portrayed with their VAs, with Maaya Uchida (older sister) and Yuuma Uchida(little brother) because IRL, Maaya is known being a brocon towards her brother, and with FGO having Yuuma voicing Castor and Maaya for Pollux, you get a hefty role reversal
ОтветитьHappy Thanksgiving! At least here in the US. That's really all I wanted to say. Though I'm just saying having done lost belt 5 well the Greek God's are something alright anyway can't wait for lost belt 7 oh fun times ahead so close and yet so far.
ОтветитьIt honestly sucks, I really enjoyed the Gemini twins when I summoned them.
ОтветитьHey Yurie have you thought about making a channel discord server?
ОтветитьHope they get a Foreigner vessel one day, since they are stars
Ответитьthe fifth symbol on Pollux' valentines cookie is the pattern on her top. Specifically the black part over her belly. So it's just a reference to the design itself rather than the mythology.
ОтветитьThat's not the worst thing zeus has been while having sex with a woman.
ОтветитьAlso fun fact their situation is explained in the character material books essentially castor and Pollux are the rappresentation of the ancient twin gods archetype that later do to the story of castor and Pollux assumed their proprieties in essence they both are the ancient gods and they got reincarnated later as castor and Pollux do to them gaining thoose names essentially castor got the short end of the stick and got no divinity in the process cause of the legend of him having no divinity being more popular leaving Pollux with the divinity (altho skills Preaty much pimply the loss of divinity is more a suppression than loss to their noble phantasm and skills) on their side also the description of their noble phantasm which not only is a series of combos but also temporarily raises their parameters near the status of when they were actual gods and their strength becomes quite high to the point defense and evasion is almost impossible(the reason for invuln pierce on their np). Also character material book confirms the version of events where castor died first u can see also by their madness enhancement which only Pollux has in which she goes nuts if castor is too hurt
Ответитьnah man,the reason why the other twin was turn into female was simple,more anime girl = money
i think it's that obvious
I wath you made a video on tomoe gozen or zainaba
ОтветитьAm going to need a follow up on the Nicola cage movies.
Ответитьhuh I wasn't expecting that one lol, fgo really stuffed these two
ОтветитьWell...an event where the Dioscuri appear, was at the beginning of the Halloween event with CinderElly and Zenobia. They were in the spirit of Halloween, happily giving candy to the child servants and being nice to them, especially Castor
ОтветитьCan you please do a video on Amakusa
ОтветитьI wannnnt so a video for David 🥹
ОтветитьSomething neat that you didn't bring up about their NP is how when they charge forward Castor is glowing blue while Pollux is glowing orange. These are the exact same colours that their stars glow when observed from Earth.
It's a little thing but as an astronomy nerd it is one that brings a smile to my face to see.
I’m going to quote Gigguk for this one: “Don’t worry about it.”
ОтветитьZeus is such a d*ck. For all the BS he does through Greek mythology you telling me he couldn't heal a near death mortal?
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