River Radamus Vs Marco Odermatt | Solden WC GS Race 2021 | Skiing

River Radamus Vs Marco Odermatt | Solden WC GS Race 2021 | Skiing

Tom Gellie - Big Picture Skiing

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@dj_617
@dj_617 - 25.10.2021 10:25

Welcome the world of ski race analysis, Tom. I will be looking out for your next one.

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@markshaxted
@markshaxted - 25.10.2021 14:11

Rather than approaching a race analysis from the biased view of preferring skiing with higher edge angle, an alternative look without that judgement would be what’s the edge angle that was needed to ski the desired line. More edge angle than needed and you’ll slow down, not enough and you’ll end up late and lots down. And at the end of the day this is the very definition of skill is using the precise amount to achieve the desired outcome. The best racers imo are the ones that match this to the terrain and the course set, and are able to adjust to this and whatever happens at those kinds of speeds and intensities. At the end of the day, the goal of racing is purely about getting from A to B faster than everyone else, and if you can look at skiing purely as how this person did or didn’t achieve that, or why someone may have been faster at certain points, you can move away from personal bias about what kind of skiing you like to see.

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@petermeusburger9426
@petermeusburger9426 - 25.10.2021 15:57

Can you make an otherone video like this but from the same race?

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@normalizedaudio2481
@normalizedaudio2481 - 25.10.2021 17:59

I let some 'eat my dust'; but, I am a very nice person. See you at the bottom.

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@steveliberman3000
@steveliberman3000 - 26.10.2021 02:35

Tom, I really enjoyed what you did with this video. You have actually added to my enjoyment of the race. River caught up a couple of times and lost by a foot - a FOOT! The choices of edge angles/lines happen instantaneously and in reflexive response to all kinds of forces. This race could easily have gone another way. Unless Marco beats River consistently, you could almost chalk it up to luck. I like to rail all the way through a carve. This makes me fast out on the piste, but slower in the gates. Every racer now seems to include strategic Ted Ligety-style "stivots."

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@iggymon1019
@iggymon1019 - 26.10.2021 03:19

Nice breakdown, but shouldn't the timestamp on both video be exactly synchronized? The timestamp on the video is roughly .7 sec in favor of River.

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@patrickpurcell3671
@patrickpurcell3671 - 26.10.2021 11:44

Excellent analysis thanks Tom very informative and enjoyable.

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@rongoldberg8491
@rongoldberg8491 - 28.10.2021 07:05

River is setting a new trend, pace. Earlier initiation, higher edge angles, lots of hip.... he's fun to watch. Nice breakdown Tom. The technology is a hindrance, but you made it work. More people than ever are watching programs like this. Rock it out!!

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@skijgs222
@skijgs222 - 31.10.2021 06:44

Nice job

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@TrickRider58
@TrickRider58 - 11.11.2021 22:16

Thanks for this! As a new fan of the sport, it's really interesting seeing a breakdown of the race like that.

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@rachelcastro7574
@rachelcastro7574 - 14.11.2021 20:25

Can you do one comparing Lucas Braathen and Odermatt from Soelden last year?

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@RaceTeq17
@RaceTeq17 - 12.12.2021 04:18

Ski prep, equipment setup, tactics, line (intention vs. chance vs. recovery), fitness, confidence, vision, risk taking, luck. Lots of factors beyond technique. Careful with style preference vs. function, and of course, outcome! Big edge angles create more scrub, and tighten the radius in places where it may not always be beneficial. I agree it looks cool but it's not a judged sport, thankfully ;)

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@Cartuch18
@Cartuch18 - 13.12.2021 00:19

Dear Tom, excellent!!! You diden't missed one detail. Great observation!!!

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@matteovalentino6267
@matteovalentino6267 - 27.10.2023 16:18

Marco sono Matteo Valentino mi riguardo le mie gare per le dediche d amore che mi mandavano Anita mia fidanzata e nostra nipote Martina di Centa mentre correvamo io e suo papà Giorgio di Centa dormiva da Anita quando eravamo per il mondo ciao auguri per la stagione 23 24 ciao

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@albertmaziarz6739
@albertmaziarz6739 - 28.12.2023 21:19

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@skidaemon
@skidaemon - 09.03.2024 19:16

My 10 year old racer loved your analysis on this video, is a big fan of your's, particularly how River keeps catching up with his lower profile and higher edge angles, something I have been trying to impress on him this last season.

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