History Summarized: Minoan Greece

Athens were the only mycenaean state/city to survive the greece bronze age collaps and therefor it was the place to have some sort of remembrance of both the mycenaean and minoan era.

Atlantis is Crete in my opinion people just thinking about Minoans.

The leaping person I believe represents a leap in time. Like a leap year. The bull might indicate the age of taurus

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Minoans were not pre -greek civilazation

Was originally greek hellenic first civilazation since connections existed in later times of ancient Greece..and same time with Achaian civilazation and classic times.

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Very nice video, I am from Crete and living in Heraklion near Knossos.

Just a tidbit: At the same time the Minoans were building an empire with a language and culture that would mysteriously become lost to time, the Sumerians were building their own empire and lots of Ziggurats. So strange how one entite culture could just die and the other be so well-preserved

All this time I've been pronouncing it "Mycenaeans."

I'm still so mad at myself for not seeing Knossos when I was in Crete

Their aliens obviously

Minoan Greece? Greece is a country of 1830😅

so minoans lived inside an acient mall?

The Bronze Age collapse and the Classical Mayan collapse are the ultimate "enough to make a grown man cry" topics for historians

Cretan author Nikos Kazantzakis (1883 - 1957) wrote this in his autobiography Reference to Greco (Αναφορά στον Γκρέκο):
...A world full of mystery, an Atlantis emerging from the depths of the cretan land, [she is] staring at us with huge black eyes, but her lips are still sealed.
(Ένας κόσμος όλο μυστήριο, μια Ατλαντίδα που πρόβαλε από το βυθό της κρητικιάς γης, μας κοιτάζει με τεράστια μαύρα μάτια, μα τα χείλια της είναι ακόμα σφραγισμένα)

So then Minos is probably Poseidon, gotta love how the more history we learn the clearer the legends and myths origins become.

Nothing comes from nowhere and nothing under the sun is new.

Oh and definite sub, it is good to find someone else who understands how to read mythology. Basic criminology and Occam's Razor/Socratic method is surprisingly effective.

Bruh can you maybe take a breath this aint a rap battle

This video is so good. I just wish there was a censored version so I could show it to my 6th graders...

Kyklades how amazing! Shows photo of Zakinthos from the opposite side of Greece. Tsk tsk.

The TSUNAMI that was caused by the MASSIVE Volcanic eruption Akrotiri/Santorini severely weakened the Minoans... Then a while later the Mycenaeans, finished them off.

I don’t know why, but I really, really like this whole ‘centrally located super-warehouse, trading post and manufacturing center that other locations act as resource production nodes for’ thing the Minoans had going for them.

Maybe it’s because of a childhood of playing city-building games like Caesar III (badly).

Currently learning about the Peloponnesian Wars at college, and I haven’t heard a peep out of Crete at all. My personal headcanon is that they were having a multi-century sulk and saw what the other Greeks were up to and decided that it was too much hassle to get involved with Their Idiot Neighbours lol

T. " Here we show that Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically similar, having at least three-quarters of their ancestry from the first Neolithic farmers of western Anatolia and the Aegean1,2, and most of the remainder from ancient populations related to those of the Caucasus3 and Iran4,5. However, the Mycenaeans differed from Minoans in deriving additional ancestry from an ultimate source related to the hunter–gatherers of eastern Europe and Siberia(...). Modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the Early Neolithic ancestry. Our results support the idea of continuity but not isolation in the history of populations of the Aegean, before and after the time of its earliest civilizations.@ Lazaridis and others, 2017. Google on Minoan DNA"

Atlantis is real, fight me

Currently my favorit part of anchent history, is that achient history is still achient history to the ones we think of anchient history.

I'm sorry for potentially making your head explode, but history is OLD

Wait, if Minos is real, is it possible Daedalus was maybe actually one of his engineers, possibly behind the fleet of ships?

The Waffle house has found its new host

It was the Sea Peoples, wasnt it, blue?
Blue?

One thing for sure they were real, we just don't know what actually happened back then.

Imo, the minotaur story is just a giant " look at those silly people, they get on to bulls" to make fun of the minoans

The Minotaur myth reminds me of Ariadne, a protential mother/labyrinth goddess on Krete. But Ariadne didn't get to mainland Greece via Athens/the Minoans but via the cults of Dionysus (her eventual husband).

(I'm just speculating please don't assume I'm stating fact here)

Aetiological myths -- from ritual to romance. Great linkage here.

You have a bizarre fetish for putting down European civilizations

It's funny, pretty much everything we know about the Minoans is vague at best, we don't even know what kind of government they had, what their religious practices looked like, how gender roles worked in their society, what their relations were like with the surrounding cultures, , what the main function of their buildings were for, don't even have a completely concrete idea of why their civilization fell.
But the one thing we actually know for a fact about them is that fashionable Minoan women always had their tits out.
History is hilarious that way.

Woah

....aaaaaaand now I'm off to replay 100 hours of Assassin's Creed Odyssey.

I approve of the amount of "we don't know" in this video. But there's a couple of things that I quibble with, as a layperson:

- As I understand it, we can read Linear A ... sort of. Ish. A bit. We can get clues from Linear B, which uses the same script for a different language (Greek). So when we see a sign in Linear A, and we know what that sign says in Linear B, we can go, "Oh, I bet it means something similar in Linear A! This bit is probably talking about sheep!"

But we don't know how to pronounce the Linear A text mentioning sheep, because we don't know what language it's in. And that severely limits our ability to figure out anything more complicated than "5 sheep."

For example, I can read some Japanese. And Japanese borrowed a lot of signs from Chinese (kanji). If I see Chinese writing, I can sometimes figure out what it probably means, because I recognise some of the symbols. "Oh hey, that's the symbol for 'fire' in Japanese! I bet it means 'fire' in Chinese, too! And this sign is on the wall beside a big red button, so it probably says FIRE ALARM!" I get the general concept that the symbol is expressing.

But I can't say the Chinese word, because Chinese sounds completely different to Japanese. They're not even related like, say, French and English are. In Japanese the sound would be 'ka', 'kaji', 'hi', or other things like that ... but I have no idea how to say it in Chinese. And anything more complicated than "FIRE ALARM" will be really hard to figure out.

Guessing gets risky very quickly, because some signs mean totally different things. Maybe that Chinese sign actually reads "NO SMOKING" or "FLAMES SHOOT OUT OF THE WALL HERE SOMETIMES" or "HOT GIRLS THIS WAY" or "BISCUITS". Can't be sure.

In the same way, because we can read Linear B, we can look back at Linear A and go, "Oh, that's the symbol for 'wine!' And it's beside a number, so it's probably a record of the amount of wine in this storeroom!" But who knows what the Minoan word for wine actually was? Nobody does, that's who. And are we 100% sure that symbol meant 'wine' in Linear A just because it means 'wine' in Linear B? Maybe it means 'blood' or something and it's actually talking about the number of people to sacrifice ... 😱


- Why so many pictures of the Phaistos Disk--that spiral writing thing--out of context? (Well, OK, two pictures.) That's not Minoan hieroglyphics or Linear A, the two undeciphered Minoan scripts mentioned in the video. The Disk is in a third untranslated script, and pretty much the only example of that script we have--apart from a couple of the symbols popping up on other artifacts. Yes, it seems to be related to the other two in some way, but still. For a long time people weren't even sure if it came from Minoan Crete at all or if it had been imported from some mysterious other land.

It's basically untranslatable because it's the only one of its kind--there's just not enough of the script to decode it. Or more accurately, you can 'decode' it into any language you like ... but good luck proving you're right without some other inscriptions to check it against. I could probably 'decipher' it into Japanese if I tried enough random sentences, and nobody would be able to prove me wrong, heh.

In fact, the Phaistos Disk itself is utterly weird, scarily advanced for the time (the symbols were stamped onto the disk, making it an early attempt at printing), and the subject of all kinds of crackpot theories. It deserves a video all to itself.


(I'm sure Blue knows all this and just left it out of the video for time, but I'll leave it here anyway on the off-chance somebody bothers to read this comment. Again, I'm just a laycat and not an expert.)

It baffles me how such a large structure on a hill could be buried so deeply that nobody knew it was there for thousands of years. Geology is amazing.

You’re making “jumps” , that are not proved yet, with all respects. Linear -A script, is from a language that we don’t know yet. You declare that it definitely wasn’t greek. Likewise, you reveal a “conspiracy “ of all ancient greek authors “to hide the glory of minoans and present it as their own”. It would be more educative to , just focus to what’s scientifically proven up to date.

Why are they known as minoans when that Island is known to me as Crete

I love that you integrated AC Odyssey music in this video 🤣🤣🤣

Do you think that, in the same way Troy existed, but was lost to time and became mythos to the ancient Greeks, the stories of the gods slaying the titans are remnants of the ancient meeting of proto Indo-European cultures and the changing of Gods as it happened?
Research suggests that Ancient humans though of gods as spirits of/within nature, then as farming became prevalent, the gods became more human. As cultures merged, emphasis on certain aspects of life would determine the pantheon in charge.
Gone are the days of worshipping The Sky, and Mother Earth, and Time Itself. The new gods are here, and they look and act like we do.
Add thousands of years of telephone and you get those forces of nature that WERE the gods becoming the titans, and if the gods came frome them, the titans came from somewhere.

They are Persian and Caucasian. Hahahha. This is why Greeks and Italians have tan skin. but they think they are descended from ancient greece. The ancestors of today's Greeks are Iranians, Albanians and Turks.

Tell us more about Minoan breasts. Please.

Thank you for, what I believe, are correct pronunciations. Thank you

Awesome - well done and well narrated.

Hmm, an Athenean hero goes to crete to slay the minoan bull. Mayhaps that is in itself an analogy describing what happened via folklore.

Historians don't think anymore that what was made in the palaces was put out into the countryside... it was just kept in the palace and given to the workers in the palace.