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They could have just left the T-34/85's as they are, as the German army used them during WW2.
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August 12, 2024 - As a big fan of the film "Kelly's Heroes" ( I have several copies of the film on DVD and on thumb drive), and as an avid Military history student. I have to admit that I am embarrassed by the fact that I believed the "Tiger" tanks were the originals in the film, and not mock ups. I have a number of books with great tank illustrations and photos. I owe a gentleman who posted on a forum that the tanks were mockups, and I contradicted him saying they were obviously real Tigers. He never replied and he probably rightly put me down as being "uninformed" and possibly an idiot. Apologies to him wherever he is.😊
ОтветитьYes "such positive waves" The best war film by far.....except obviously having no real Tigers at hand the film had to make do with a mock up. another line I loved was referring to the Tiger tank in Yank hands "its a piece of junk....leaking fuel everywhere"
Ответитьconsidering when it was built, and the budget they had, this is the best T34 Tiger ever made. Those who shot this movie seem to have really cared to make it look good ; not only the feature of the tank itself, but also how to shoot them(angles, composition etc.etc.).
(Actually they had 3 Tigers, I remember)
Private Ryan Tiger had to be better considering the date of production… or am I too asking?)
The amount of detail on the commander's cupola and hatch (early production version) of the Kelly's Heroes "Tigers" is astounding. Compare them to photos of the real thing and videos of "Tiger 131" in The Tank Museum. I wonder why they went to so much effort.
ОтветитьWow man, so many positive waves! Maybe we can’t lose! You’re on!
ОтветитьMY EYES!!!🤣
ОтветитьI love the video !!! I actually made a 1/35th scale kitbashed model of the Kelly's Heroes Tiger-34.
ОтветитьA more believable fake Tiger has been made by someone in the USA. They figured out a way to take the whole hull and turn it around so that there is more space up front allowing for the driver and radio operator's hatches to be in the right place, then they also replaced the tension drive wheels with a sprockets. I suppose this also necessitated new tracks and they are certainly not the tracks from the Russian tanks. Of course, that I am writing is based on some authoritative-sounding post on a forum, but I have seen a video of the tank rolling over the countryside in Kentucky as well as it being in the movie Come Out Fighting. It is possibly more accurate to say that this was made from the ground up, as I have seen a video about a fake Panzer 4 that was made from ground up to be rented to movie companies. It was also made easy to break into half for easy transportation.
ОтветитьIt was always fun to see this vismod Tigers in a movie.
ОтветитьThe T-34-85 mockup of the Tiger tank in “Kelly’s Heroes” and “Saving Private Ryan” looks like the Porsche Tiger.
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ОтветитьYea definitely raised the bar
Ответитьgotta luv a plywood tank !
ОтветитьWould take 200 trucks haul all that gold...but still....its a movie
Ответить- та није ти добро да вријеђаш сфрј партизане
- француска пала европа пала а партизани никада
- белгија холандија
- који су то народи
- 28 војски су били партизани диљем тада југославије
Поддельные псевдо-"Тигры" удручают. На кого это рассчитано? На тех же дураков, которые не отличают настоящие банкноты от напечатанных на принтере?
ОтветитьThe funny thing is that historical films are not reconstructions of a period of history but the imagination of that period, so why would tanks be their own "original replica"?
ОтветитьThe Kastle keep (1969) is also filmed in Yugoslavia with same tank "Tiger" prop.
ОтветитьThe Tiger could be penetrated from the sides and the rear where the armor was thinnest. That is a fact. In WW2 studies showed where to hit the Tiger E to knock it out and when Tank Destroyer crews and Tank crews of Shermans learned that, the idea was to know a Tiger was coming and get into position to ambush it from the sides of backs. Only an 88 or a 17pounder (British gun) could penetrate the frontal armor of a Tiger in NW Europe. Don't know about the Soviet tanks. After reading numerous books on American armor, most being personal experiences, when M10 Tank Destroyers learned about the Tiger soft spots in Italy, they discovered that knowing how to take a Tiger out also took the fear away of knowing a Tiger was coming. According to another source, Clint Eastwood bought the fake Tigers and had them taken to Oklahoma where he enjoyed driving them around for years. Not much to get in your way in much of Oklahoma!
ОтветитьUgh... Shermans with tracks hung off them and german crosses painted on... lazy, lazy, lazy. Totally breaks the enjoyment of a war movie when they do it.
Ответитьvery good video coongratulations
ОтветитьВсе роли немецких танков Т-5 Пантера и Т-6 Тигр играл один танк Т-34 а в советских фильмах роли немецких танков исполняли танки Т-34,Т-44,ИС-2 и Т-54
Ответитьin all fairness, using T-34s painted gray and with german Balkenkreuz in movies to act like german tanks isn't that far fetched. The Wehrmacht did indeed use many captured tanks, and they used a german modification of the T-34, named T-34 747(r). They were used all across on the Eastern front it seems the germans used primeraly light tanks in the role of fighting partisans.
ОтветитьNowadays with CGI they could use any tank, painted a solid colour with reference dots at critical points, and CGI any tank they wanted over it.
Ответитьuntil the t-54/55 mock-ups from saving private ryan and other recent films, the yugoslav ones from kelly's heroes were the best. and kudos for mentioning that at close range, the 76mm sherman could take out a tiger.
ОтветитьGoing from memory I think the 'Tigers' used in Kelly's Heroes were conversions of US M107/M110 SP artillery piece chassis'.
ОтветитьI have seen and touched TIGER 131 @ Bovingdon tank museum a couple of years before they restored the running gear and made a Frankenstein maybach engine out of numerous spare parts.
ОтветитьKelly's Heros is my favorite movie of all time!!! I am avid historian.. those 2 tigers were really close. Nice job they did.😮😮😮
Ответить"When we go into battle, we like to play music, very loud! It kind of calms us down...."
ОтветитьQuite clever and the budget comparison to others is adequate but small. Great video and good afternoon and day to you all,God bless.
ОтветитьKelly's Heroes was probably the best Tiger with the exception of Saving Private Ryan.
You can tell with the Turret placement and shape.
Plus the Wheels and tracks look different.
But still effective effects.
Knock it off with them negative waves!
Just look at the road wheels, always the tell tale
ОтветитьWould love to see the Merkava and Namer variants on Tank Encyclopedia!!!
ОтветитьOne of the Shermans used in Kelly's Heroes still exists and is standing in front of one of the museums in Novi Sad. I don't know what the fate of the other Shermans is, but I've seem a couple Shermans around the country. Don't know if those were the exact ones used in the movie, though.
ОтветитьGive the Yugoslavian producers credit for doing a great job making the T-34s resemble Tiger Is. When I saw the film I thought they were real Tigers as I new the basic shape of the tank. I did not know about the suspension until later and realized they were mockups. Better than using American tanks in the "Bulge" movie or trying to pass of a Sherman painted grey and with a Swastika as a Panther.
ОтветитьEssentially, we can call them Toyer Tanks!
Ответить99% of movie watchers are not tank fans or hobbyists. Therefore every tank looks the same to them. They wouldn’t know the difference between a M47 Patton and a Tiger Ausf.B. Or that the panzer VI Tiger Ausf. E had overlapping and interleaved road wheels.
So there’s no need for the film producers to make the tanks look historically accurate if most movie watchers wouldn’t know or even care.
in Saving Private Rayn the Tigers are the same models used in Kelly's Heroes
ОтветитьAlthough not perfect, the effort made to mock up Tigers shows a degree of respect for the audience that is sadly non-existent in most films of the 60s... particularly that piece of garbage, Battle of the Bulge from 1965. One doesn't need to be a 'tank expert' to care. I saw that Bulge crap when I was about 12. By then, I had already built several models - including the King Tiger which, in that awful film, is portrayed by M47s. I recall yelling at the TV along with my brother. We were so angry at such a blatant mistake. The only good part was the Panzer Lied scene. The rest is absolute crap.
ОтветитьVolume mediocre, other channels and ads are mouh louder.
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