Don't Get CONNED Into Buying a "Super C" Motorhome -- 2021 Tampa RV Show!

If I wanted an RV it would have the engine out in front not underneath my cab. The advantages of in front engine placement should be obvious to would-be RV buyers.

New to RVs. Bought a basic 28Z chateau last year. Heya the drive especially when hauling a vehicle. Thinking of upgrading to a Magnitude XG32. What are your thoughts on this? Ride quality, etc.

Love your dark hair MJ

I own a 2008 Gulfstream Conquest M3510, 8.1L Chevy Kodiak (5500) chassis. It has the 10 passenger bunkhouse layout. It's a great motorhome (tight turning circle, doesn't get blown off the road by semis). Would really like to have more storage found in a Freightliner M2 chassis, but I bought this used in 2020 for $44K. I would have to spend triple to upgrade to an M2 chassis.

Do you recommend buying a Extended Service Contract? We are picking up our new to us 2021 Dynamax Force with 3800 miles tomorrow..

Title bears 0 relation to the content of the video...and, just like all of the least valuable videos out there...starts with "watch till the end...important info at the end"...as usual, nothing there...

Love my Renagade Verona LE.

Be proud as Americans. You can wear or do what you want when you want. It is no one’s business what political party or person you support. Continue to be A PROUD AMERICAN.

I think you are the "CON" artist. Shame on you for using "scary" titles to attract people to watch. Will never watch one of your videos again.

Could I afford a quarter of a million dollar motor home, Yes. Would I spend that much on a R.V. considering the depreciation, absolutely Not. Bad economics all around. I'll keep my Jayco Greyhawk. I don't have to have the biggest and the best at the camp resort.

Who can afford these new super c?

MAAAAATT !!!!

Where is the link you "said was below" regarding you all test driving a super c....?

I went with the Jayco Seneca Prestige on the S2 chassis. Upgraded from a Winnebago class c and this is night and day better. Pulls my Jeep over those Colorado passes with no issues unlike the Winnebago. The aqua Hot system and the heated ceramic floors were a bonus.

Why didn’t you show the inside?

We own a 40ft. Renegade Verona LE, which we consider the sweet spot of the Renegade Super C lineup. The LE version has many of the features of more expensive super C motorhomes such as porcelain flooring, premium cabinetry, and nice interior appointments. It is built on a Freightliner M2 commercial chassis, and comes with an 8.9 L Cummins and an Allison truck 6 speed transmission. Air brakes, air ride rear suspension, and air ride front seats, are features that have served us well. We want to you to know that although Renegade builds great Rvs in general, the Verona LE offers what we consider to be a better value than the standard Verona. Like we said, the sweet spot. We have never wished for more power or load capacity, nor do we have any complaints about ride or handling. Five years and counting of great RV experiences. Your mileage may vary.

The best thank you

Are the super C the only one to get a full truck cab vs a van type cab. The chassis not a commerical but a E 4500 or less chassis .

Always buy the most expensive whatever. New.

I have owned 4 RV. 2 Class C and 2 Class B. My B is used all the time. My C was only used when we could vacation together. With that said in 4 years he retires. We own a Jeep Hard Rock Rubicon 4-door. We have added extra so it know weights 4500. Super C will tow this and that's why we are looking at plus everyone says they're easy to drive and I want to be able to drive it by myself. I will not get one without an M2 Freightliner. What I would love to see is a smaller Class C something under 35 from head to toe.

Don't get conned?

Haha photo bombed by Matt, that dudes a trip.

That was kinda funny 😆 Matt video bombed it 😮😮

I think for Super C motorhomes, it's the engine/drivetrain that makes or breaks the deal for me. Honestly, even the Cummings 6.7L 370hp 800 torque is to small of an engine for that price point. You really want the REAL Super C with either the DD15 or the Cummings X series with at least 500hp and 1850 torque

what makes a product a super C is that it is built on Truck Chassis, regular class C motorhomes are built on Van Chassis. there are going to multiple levels of Truck Chassis... it always comes back to how do you plan to use it.

I perchased a 2022 40' fifth wheel and the service stopped as soon as they cashed the check. There is no consumer protection in the industry. The only code compliance is supported and payed for by the manufacturers

We own a 2015 jayco Seneca,34 ft,340hp Cummins with an Allison,we tow a 16 ft box trailer with a golf cart and bunch of stuff, we average 10.6 mpg, mountains, flat ground, love it,have a jake brake, love this super c, have had Winnebago diesel pusher, 2 gas motor homes, 2 airstreams,10 other travel trailers, we bought this last June, had 35K miles, a friend bought it new and bought another jayco forK$330. We bought this for$180 and am happy, the dealer was great with warranty and problems, they fixed everything, I mean everything,we live in north central Ohio and sponser in nascar , go to 5 races a year, thank you, john y

I own a Monaco Windsor from 1998. Monaco built their own chassis called a semimonacoque in reference to plane construction. My walls have steel studs. It has at least 6 steel bars in the ceiling of a 36' motorhome. It is in the same league as a Country Coach. You don't talk about the strength of the walls. Do you care about the safety of the unit if you are forced off the road over a cliff? Are you concerned if you side swipe someone driving down the freeway and the side of your motorhome is torn off and what about a collision with a semi truck? How about in an interstate pile up where fire starts? Not to be an ass but you don't comment on this.

Where is the con?

Renegade Verona LE

Would be nice if Newell and Liberty Coach made Super C's on the new 2023 Cascadia chassis . The interiors on most of the Super C's look a little dated, with the hard edge wood cabinetry and bland fixtures compared to the more upscale interiors you see on Newell and Liberty Coaches. Another note, the Newmar Super C's on a Cascadia chassis is potentially a more attractive package, my opinion. Great video, thanks for your hard work.

❌ .......never, never trust people who cover their eyes with sunglasses, while talking to you‼️

As I thought nothing at the end and your title once again misleads. And how much do uou make a year off your channel?

Bro… very few can afford half a MILLION dollars on a depreciating asset like an RV. Even the ‘cheap’ 170K one is out of reach of most.

MATT!!!!!!!!

Not all of us have a cool half million that we can drop on a RV, that’s were the Thor and Dynamax makes a lot of sense. Also worth noting that some of us live in states that require a Class B CDL if you go over 26,000 lbs GVWR. That’s were the level 1-3 Super C’s make sense.

We recently bought a Dynamax DX3 with about 2500 miles so far. We love it. We like the fact that there is no propane, and that it effortlessly tows our Ram 1500 over mountain passes without slowing down.

Great job. Excellent content.... Looking at super C class..... $$$$ is dictating the limit for me. Thanks 👍

I own 2020 Renegade Verona LE - Love it

Yep, gimme the 60K tow capacity and the porcelain floors 😸😸😸

People should make these decisions the same way they would if they were purchasing travel trailers/fifth wheel . Durability on chassis size . Many fifth wheels can be pulled with 1/2 ton gas trucks but are likely better off with a 3/4 ton diesel or even bigger with the big ones . One could easily choose a standard class C that’s built on an E450 chassis and be ok with the larger ones beginning to max out the gas engine. Entry super Cs might be a good choice if your really just wanting an upgraded class C that’s when you get and F550 or similar diesel that easily haul more then their weight and will likely last longer getting better MPGs doing it . The ones buying the jumping into a real Super C built on a commercial truck chassis are likely wanting a full class A but want extra tow capability and ease of service. I only have a fifth wheel and diesel f250 but if money wan no option I would want a real Super C over a class A . No surprise because I’m a truck driver lol . My dream would be to take and old classic Peterbilt road tractor and make a dream RV out of it !

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Anybody own a Newmar super C? I'm interested on what people think of that one and the major issues they have run across.

I would never ever deal with North Trail RV for anything.

Though this is an old video, I'm gonna comment for others who may be still looking for a rig. We currently own a Nexus Ghost. It is a 2021 30R. We purchased it in Tampa in April of 2021. Now, May of 2022, we are going to work with ShowHauler to custom design something that is handicapped accessible. I don't want a class a. I want a true SUPER C. Not just a class c. Though this Nexus looks good at a glance, we have experienced issues from the first week we owned it. The only reason the company didn't have me show up at their front door was because their customer service rep for our area was an awesome woman and she worked with me closely until we had all of the major issues fixed. I would be keeping this rig for a few more years had my husband not been in an accident in February of this year. Now, he struggles with everything about this rig. So, we are going to move on to something new.

Have you ever thought of standing further apart.

Thanks, very good info. Started looking at used Super C's and saw a 2021 Magnitude 35BH yesterday and the CCC is only 1450lbs!

I see a lot manufacturers of “super c’s” whose reputations are extremely poor for quality and longevity. Who are the “Prevost” “Liberty” “Newell” level true super C manufacturers???? Is there a Peterbuilt PACCA MX-13 powered (TX-12 or TX-18 trans) (DX 40 and FX 20 axles) super C with a bulletproof living space construction to match?

There can be only 1 Izzy, and that is me!

Good info to know. Thanks guys.