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It has come to my attention (definitely by my own research and NOT AT ALL because I've gotten 445 comments) that the Saint came before the Escape.
thank you all for correcting me! Appreciate your contributions to this community and sport :)
if you are testing 2 discs against each other you should be trying to throw them the same not correcting on your second disc....
ОтветитьEntertaining vid, thanks for showing these two off!
ОтветитьThanks for reaching out Sir. My Putting is improving well. Currently dialing in at 30 feet. Release on drives flatter and straighter. Tough year on practice time. Lots of mandatory OT at job site.
ОтветитьI have been cycling saints for 3-4 years now. plastic has a big influence, mostly in that the Gold line plastic is significantly more consistent disc to disc, where as the opto plastic stability and glide varies drastically depending on color/opaqueness, I don't know if that is anyone else experience.
Love your content! Keep on crushing it :)
Nice review as always! Thx
ОтветитьI love the visual effects you added throughout the video...adding flight lines without zooming would be sweet too and gives more of a feel to how the disc flew.
ОтветитьDid you know that Thomas Ekström designed both discs and he designed the majority of all the trilogy discs
ОтветитьSaint is defo 7 glide!
Same for the River.
BUT, (There's always a "but"!) The River can't be thrown with full power. It is designed to take 70% of your max, and then blow your mind with how far and how straight it glides.
Saint should be called "River Plus" in my view. It's a River your can hit with 90-100% of your power, without burning over.
Well I have a semi beat in champ savant and new lucid escape, escape has more turn, but I am getting more distance out of the savant ( but I mean I've been throwing the savant like 10 months and the escape about 5 days) and obviously you learn a disc with more time throwing it but that being said I'd say the savant is only 10-15 ft more on average, it will be interesting once I learn the escape and it beats in a bit.
The champion Savant I'm more like -.33 turn not quite a -.5 yet alone the -1 advertised and this is with it beat in and with about 350ft -375ft of power on it. I don't have a huge arm but I also wouldn't say a 9 speed is too much disc for me either. But yeah escape regularly turns what ide expect a -1 to do, the savant, honestly it's probably just similar to a very beat in thunderbird, but I haven't had a chance to throw a thunderbird yet alone a few years beat in one.
But I like the turn from the escape, means I can hit a straight shot while backing off of it a little bit. That being said my teebrid3 was bombing before I lost it. And I think it beat in to have more turn than my Savant, even though it started in champ much more stable than the savant. It gained some turn and lost a little bit of fade.
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ОтветитьThe only one I have experience with is the new Supreme Escape. For me max 300 feet distance, the 9/5/-1/2 numbers are pretty spot on. Honestly it throws like a faster Crave to me.
ОтветитьI would revisit the saint for hyzer flips you can get great 330+ low straight shots with it with little effort once you can throw drivers 400+ . Its a cheat code in the woods. Also as you get more power you can get more lines out of it as you work different power levels and degree of hyzer. Once you get the touch of it, it's money. plus they beat in well.
For new players get a lighter one for the same effect. A lighter saint is a great teacher to learn hyzer flips and learn to to work angles. If your new but serious its really a great disc to learn to throw smooth with and grow with.
Just got my first ace at 4H in Pensacola with the Saint after only playing disc golf for 1 month
ОтветитьOh i tree, lets park there
ОтветитьQuality video
ОтветитьI really want to love your videos. I like your content a lot. You put a lot of effort in and your goal is cool.
But man, breath.
My opinion is, you should add more quieter moment, you are constantly speaking. Add to that, the fact that you are talking quite fast (not a problem when isolated), it makes your videos a little overwhelming.
Nice review i used to throw the saint i threw it away a windy day but i replaced it with discmania essence no regrets yet😁
ОтветитьInnova Gazelle or Leopard > River
ОтветитьBro...just throw them in an empty field lol
ОтветитьNice review Sir. I too feel the 7 glide is a stretch as far as my L64 River is concerned. Only 18 months into my journey with the game. Only at throwing 250/270 so far and yes practice putting is so important.
ОтветитьLoving all the Tom Brown footage. It's my home course and I play it at least twice a week. Good choice on skipping #4.
ОтветитьYou made the comment that the Saint is a "baby" Grace, and I couldn't agree more! I bagged the saint since I started playing, and loved that it would hold whatever line I put it on, but would always fade back at the end. The Grace does just that, but faster! I've always called the Grace the "Big Sister" of the Saint and It's nice to hear the same from someone else.
ОтветитьAnybody who doesn't know the saint..... doesn't know disc golf. Ever heard of someone named John E McCray? I throw the saint all the time and john e is still one of my favorites. ✌️
ОтветитьIt's hard to tell in this videos if there being honest . Did give one disc a bad throw or did he the other disc a good throw. What disc is he trying to look good? Or what disc is he trying bad?
ОтветитьThe Saint in base plastic is money money money. One of the most slept on. Opto is a little more stable.
ОтветитьAlso the other brother the Maul is amazing to Heizer flip
ОтветитьCool
ОтветитьSo we should have a I bag the river and the saint and I've tested so many discs comparing glide. They definitely have a seven glide 😁🤘🏼
ОтветитьUnless you have only
Used a disk very minimally than you should not use it as a tester.
Would love to see a similar biobi vid comparing 3 mvp family molds.. the volt, the Tesla and the wrath..
ОтветитьTALLY!!! 🔥
ОтветитьWe will no longer be using the position you were at on hole 1
ОтветитьPlease let me know next time you are in Tallahassee. There are a few of us that would play with you.
ОтветитьThis is my main driver. I bag 2 of them.
ОтветитьI have 2 Escape in fuzion: 174 g and 170g. Absolutely love them out to 325. Very flat with a good, consistent fade. The 170 g even has a bit of flip for me, which is handy. Want to try the River next.
ОтветитьI'd like to see the Saint compared to the Kastaplast Lots
ОтветитьFor me, Trilogy Glide numbers seem to be less about raw distance and more about how the disc flies. The Saint flight—both in my experience and in this video—is a bit smoother and floatier compared to the Escape, and tends to sit down more than crash into the ground. The Saint is touchier, and needs to be thrown smoother to really get that good flight. One of my playing buddies throws an Escape over a Saint because he's less smooth, which tends to make the Saint turn over for him and negate any benefit of the glidier flight. I throw the Saint instead because I like the floatier flight better for shaping shots. They go about the same distance overall, though. I find there's a similar situation between the River and the Maverick, which are basically the Speed 7 equivalents.
ОтветитьI bagged a saint for a while. It was great at 4000 elevation
ОтветитьNot a huge fan of my River unless I just haven't figured it out.
ОтветитьUsed to bag the saint for that 9 speed s line shot. But you should buy and infinite disc Dynasty and compare with the Saint. The c line is a little flippy out the box but always comes back. Dynasty feels like a 7 glide sometimes it's nuts. Just an idea @bodanzadicgolf
ОтветитьI feel like the way you describe glide is what it actually should mean from an aerodynamics perspective. That is to say, a glidier disc will stay in it's "high speed" characteristic (turn) longer than a less glidey disc would before entering the "low speed" (fade) part of the flight. I'm not sure if that's what companies actually use it for or how the rating is even determined, but it makes sense to me. I always find it easier to keep turn on a glidier disc. Then again, maybe I'm completely wrong?
ОтветитьDoes the little bit of dome make it uncomfortable for forehands?
MVP Tesla is my 9/5/-1/2 but was interested in a Escape, didn’t know about that Saint.
You are making great puts there😁
ОтветитьWhile I like seeing the course throws. I think it is way more valuable to do comparisons in the field with no pressure, no obstructions. Put them through the paces. Then go out and do “real throws”. There is way too much variation/user error, random branches etc for reviews to be very useful.
ОтветитьThose tee pads are amazing.
ОтветитьTom Brown is such a fun course, soooo easy to go OB on hole 1 up the gut
ОтветитьBeen bagging a fuzion orbit escape, a supreme escpae, and an opto saint for the last couple months trying to work out this slot and this finally convinced me to pull my saint. Keep up the great work!
ОтветитьGreat review man. But that area is tight because the striker is between those two. I prefer the striker because I have a slow arm.
ОтветитьDD discs have always been made by Latitude and the Saint was actually released before the Escape.
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