RammWikiTV - Ep. 06 - Tiefer gelegt

mama mia

WTF??!! What is LGBT? No rainbow!!! Getero - Ist gut!

Haha nice, hab gerade vor 2 Stunden an den Songtitel denken müssen :D

Jetzt kommt ihr auch mit dem Regenbogen.
Kein Bock auf Politik.

Direkt deabonniert.

mann gegen mann pp

Hello! I just wanted to say that I appreciate you changing your profile pic for this month. It certainly makes me and my friends feel more included in this community.

никак не без цветастой иконки?

TG aka Jeder Lacht :tillH:

I'm guessing it's Bestrafe mich or a very early version of it given the position that Tiefer was written on the setlist in 1995. If not then i'll be happily surprised : D

Edit: It's Jeder lacht! Wow!!!

Huh, I guessed right, ha! Interesting as always, the 4-track stuff is always nice to hear!

Me, who’s dumb not knowing who the individual source is

Bei ebay Kleinanzeigen gibt es aktuell eine Mutter Demo MC. Frage mich wirklich ob die Legit ist.
Btw das Profilbild zeugt von Stärke! Trage auch diesen Monat fleißig mein "Was ich liebe" Shirt haha.
Edit: jeder der sich hier aufregt hat eindeutig die falsche Band für sich gewählt. Könnt gerne gehen.

Great to know. I just have three questions now:
- Is that 4-track demo tracklist the proof that the tape wasn't sung in english?
- I guess you won't answer but, is Sonne 95 Feüerrader? It's seems obvious with that setlist comparisons.
- Does that individual source knows some other secrets about other eras? Like Reise, Reise demos, or something like that.

The only time I hear "Tiefer" is in Rein Raus (Mutter) so maybe it was a demo of Rein Raus? I don't know

Edit: I know it's Jeder Lacht. But come one. The riff at the beginning (guitar and bass) sound SO SIMILAR to Rein Raus. So I still think it's a Rein Raus demo.

Danke vielmals!

Another amazing episode, thanks again for keeping the Rammstein community entertained with solving these decade long mysteries

You're keeping us happier then MGMT ever could with this stuff

wow nice !!

rammwiki noooooooo

Hey Enki, on the page for the show in Essen on 12.14.1995 it lists that Alter Mann was played and this information was confirmed by an attendee. Do you have any info on this source? Also, could Sonne (‘95) possibly have been a working title for Alter Mann, considering it was supposedly played a day before this mystery song was played in Lobenstein? Considering Till mentioned the song was inspired from a trip to the pacific islands, perhaps the title ‘Sonne’ had something to do with that.

I know this is impossible but, I would like to know how does that "White Flesh" track sounds...

At first I thought this song would turn out to be Weisses Fleisch or DRSG, as far as both of them are one of earliest songs + played in lower tuning than the standard one. But that actually makes no sense in juxtaposition with demo tape & setlist. What a profound analysis and surpriseful episode!

i thought it was an early version of buck dich

There is a theory about "Sonne '95" that I've heard a few times before, and though I don't believe it whatsoever, I felt it was worth noting:
I don't exactly know if they played "Spiel mit mir" in drop tuning back in '95-96, but I remember reading on one of the Rammstein forums that, in really early performances of the song, the riff being played in the breaks during the verses was similar, if not identical, to the "0-6-0-6-5-0" riff we all know from the actual "Sonne" from 2001.
I don't know why "Sonne" would be the working title for a song like "Spiel mit mir", which is why I think this theory is BS, but could it be possible that they took the original "Spiel mit mir" verse riff and repurposed it when they wrote the actual "Sonne" for Klitschko?

💎 it's so fantastic - moving, to receive all this info from you, and 'meeting' so many wonderful Rammstein fans, really 💎 , nothing stolen, all pure love for the most wonderful band on earth :)

what's the instrumental playing in the backround ?

Tifa gelecht
Ramstain with
Till, reshad, schneider and ali
Flek
Pol
Jede lach