Mozilla Has Killed Firefox - Can It Be Saved?

Step 1 when becoming the ceo it just focus to making a browser, but Mozilla as a company have a lot of crap running in the background

There's no way it takes more than a couple to several top tier programmers to maintain it. Do that full time and offer bounties for essential contributions from anyone else. How does it cost more than a couple mil annually to keep a web browser top tier? All it has to do is render documents. There's something ill with management if losing their top financial contribution deal leaves them with fifty times the amount needed for their core project so they respond by gimping it. $500k annual revenue should be more than enough, if that is sustainable.

Floorp, my fellow privacy liking people!

“Wet fox” lmao

Does that mean that all firefox based browsers like zen, floorp will essentially start acting like chrome in a sense of securing users data with new firedox update?

Makes me wonder if thry got paid by companies to have these new ideas. Would this still be legal?

It’s okay to use google chrome

The main issue is the lack of a real profit motive and increasingly out of touch and greedy leadership. While there is benefit to being a non-profit, it doesn't create efficient wealth creation, and by wealth, I mean stuff of value, not money. Mozilla has been just wandering around coming up with dumb products that are just copy cats with no improvements. Going into a space with an existing competitor is not bad, but if you aren't offering something better, you aren't actually doing anything of value. Mozilla needs to innovate on their browser, and if possible maybe move to creating paid extension services. This would allow them to gain even more market share and not be limited to just Firefox (Although they could just embed certain features/pre bundle the browser with them (activating them for a fee of course)). Pocket was great! They need to think beyond just syncing a few things here and there, though.

What about an extension for light image editing in the browser when copy/paste or uploading/downloading (with a cloud save function)? If you're on social media a lot on your desktop, I can see this being popular with Gen Z. You don't have to be gimp or photoshop or krita. But just the ability to clean up some images or make a meme on the fly without leaving the browser or going to some sketchy meme generator would be fantastic!
And in the grand scheme of things this wouldn't even be that hard to implement when compared to a browser

This is just one idea I had off the top of my head. There are a ton of potential things they could do!

Mozilla! Stop shooting yourself in the foot!

Their current income isn't enough for their employees ❌
Their employees are way too many for what it's worth ✅

To solve mozzila issues I'd go the twitter/X route, fire 1k7 out of the the 1k8+
I really don't think it's required to have 2k people leeching to maintain a 2% market share browser.

I don't see the problem. There are many forks of Firefox to which the EULA doesn't apply. I'm using Librewolf for example. Since Firefox is open source, its development will continue. The stupid people will continue to use Firefox, which will pay for the continued development. The educated users will use a Firefox fork, which still guarantees some privacy.
It's just like with Android. The stupid guys who use Google Android pay for its further development with their data, the educated users will use an AOSP fork like Lineage OS on their phones and will not be affected by the evil stuff Google does with Android.
To maintain your privacy requires effort. Those who don't put in this effort will become slaves of the big corporations, the clever ones will be able to enjoy up-to-date technology without submitting to the corporations.

What are they going to sell

I stopped listening when you tried to explain that the money they get is not enough for their 1000 employees... This is absolutely not true! It is plenty enough for developing and maintaining a browser. It is not enough to spend on BS side jobs that makes executives rich and finance stupid activists campaigns! Mozilla is owned by a foundation - A NON PROFIT! F that hypocrisy! They spend billions on shady programs not on the Firefox web browser! And now they cry like babies that they can not spend on things that have nothing to do with FIREFOX WEB BROWSER! And people buy that nonsense? WTF?
Same as the "Linux Foundation" 2% on kernel development 98% on BS and cry they have no money....

I hope Wokefox will be fixed soon

I expect the following from a browser: 1) resolve security vulnerabilities, 2) implement and stay up to date on web standards, 3) eliminate / minimize tracking, 4) minimize memory usage. Other than that I do not really desire innovation.

Firefox is beyond saving at this point, many of us feel betrayed by Mozilla as they've strayed far from their core principles.

I am likely wrong, I hope I am wrong, but I am getting the same vibes as Nokia and Microsoft.

SO which browser should we swicth to? Brave, duckduckgo or what? I dont want to go back chrome, i want to a good and secure browser that i can block ads and be secure(using adguard right now)

says the people who does not donate

I said this before and I will say it again the people running Firefox are idiots. They had a golden opportunity to really compete with Google because people were upset about the you block fiasco and we're ready to switch to Firefox but instead of capitalizing on it they go and mess with their terms of service and get everybody angry with them. Morons.

look ma! a neckbearded tard

Firefox and means also Mozilla had only 2.7% and only selling point for them is privacy, but somehow Mozilla forgetting about it. Instead focusing on different things like AI. Whit all their decisions wont be surprise if market share will go down to 1.7% by end of year and if so it could be end to foundation.

mozilla has blown through A LOT of money, and what do they have to show for it?........ has firefox gotten any better?........ have they put any effort into it at all?.......... good riddance.

Can't use Brave cause they are shady cryptobros, can't use Mozilla because they are wasting funding and are selling our data, can't use Opera cause they are CCP. WTF am i supposed to use Mr. Linux nerd?????

Quick answer; no

If Waterfox got the funding, they might be able to keep the browser running if Firefox/Mozilla goes down under.

Heavy fork

No it can’t and Firefox was always bad so not really a big deal either way

Firefox could go so far toward getting me to use it again if it could show my Linux directories with folders separated from the files like a normal file manager display.

They're not even focusing on AI, they're focusing on pushing politics and banishing from the internet people who think differently to them. They've become an anti-diversity group of bigots who only want people like them with a voice on the internet.

I really miss the days when Firefox was just a basic browser out of the box, and anything you wanted additional, you used an extension. Go look at pictures of version 1. Just the basic functionality you need, nothing else. I LOVED it. I was a huge Firefox fanboy, until it got super slow and Chrome came along.

Make it an UnMozillad Firefox, duh

The problem is browsers are so relatively mature there's basically no way to make anyone switch. Firefox was successful in the early 2000s because IE was slow, unstable, had security issues, and firefox was competent and usefully extensible. It was a no brainer. Today there's no practical reason to switch and very few people are willing to make software choices based on ideology, I'm a computer hobbyist and my approach tends to pretty quickly revert to "whatever bro as long as it works", most people begin at so far beyond not caring something barely worth mentioning

Wonder why they are in financial stress after paying the CEO that much, sistemarmi sistemarmi point is just a dumb corporation, not a FOSS project, they'll get a marketshare they deserve. And don't go for Librewolf because has the same issues of Firefox

Mozilla hasn't been in the news for anything good for over 15 years. Everytime they make the news now, it is for dumb stuff.

I use IceCat as often as I can. But sometimes you just have to run some js, so all browsers you can use for anything are pretty much the same now.

wtf is a WetFox ?? rofl thanks for that I got a good laugh!!

i think they would make more money as a non-profit fund raising rather than a corporation

Mozilla is the poster child of what can happen when we don't support the open source projects we use. Yeah, they made terrible decisions for years and years. Their only hope is for people who give a damn to take it over, but there are greedy idiots heavily involved, so it may be too late.

I think Firefox browser is very viable. I prefer it very much over Chrome now. And I have to use browsers like this for work--Google Classroom. I am going to take a look at Sea Monkey in hopes it can survive the death of one of its key personnel.

I honestly don't care anymore about Firefox. They lost me when they took the stance that using your data for profit is perfectly fine. I've removed it from all my devices and replaced it with Brave.

Firefox has been garbage tier browser for literal years. Brave has been the go to for the last 5 years easily (Vivaldi is trash btw) 😜

I really hope Mozilla doesn't go bankrupt. I use Zen and Thunderbird and am worried about their future.

After reading some Reddit threads it turns out mozilla had been sharing data to Google through it's default search engine. They had to update the whole we didn't sell your data because mozilla is literally being paid by Google for half a billion dollars and california laws forced their hand. So yea all this time firefox was getting off on a technicality and they still refuse to acknowledge the quid pro quo setup they have with google.

"We need money to pay millions to our top managers".

i'll move anywhere if it have userChrome.css

Mozilla is a non-profit. They don't need millions to keep going.

I agree. Firefox is dead, but the codebase is there for the taking.

You have to know that there is no such thing under the sun as "friendly fire." Sabotage from the inside as part of a greater effort to be as disgusting as possible on Earth. If you remember and abide by the fact that statism is the root of all evil, things then can be alright. Thank you and you're welcome for truth, today. If you really want to ask me how I know, have at it, but keep your pants on tight.