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ОтветитьLes Tremayne on the voiceover.
ОтветитьGreat great great grandpa was a blacksmith in barrow in furness England great great was a machinist at vickers, his brother was a boiler maker at the same.
Great grandpa was also a machinist at vickers, then he and his son moved to the US to work for Carrier.
He was the machinists union liason in ny and was friends with Avril Harriman.
His son, grandpa, went on to become a master tool and die maker at carrier.
Dad was a sheetmetal fabricator, not sure where. ( Mom and dad were divorced)
by the time it was my turn to enter the workforce in the mid eighties all the factories were closing and moving operations overseas or south of the border to save on labor costs...
Im a blacksmith. Mostly self taught. Came at it through the arts and historical reenactment and museum work.
No kids
Guess it stops here.
Six generations ( at least) of metalworkers.
A long time ago in the jobs posted part of the paper an obvious Led Zepellin fan wrote the ad for a "Tool and Dyer Maker". LOL. No kidding! Orlando Sentinel around 1980-1990
ОтветитьMy first Machining job was working for Raytheon as a machine operator with no experience,, turning Parts for guided missiles on a small production lathe, in 1952.
As I gained experience I became a jig and fixture maker and eventually on to Tool and Die. That was the hard way for sure.
I ended up working in 6 Die shops in my life. I learned something new in every shop.
You never stop learning in the machining trade.. I retired in 1999 as a Tool and Die Shop supervisor.
I find you never learn to relax after the trade. I still work to way too tight tolerances in my work shop out back even with wood.😉
I was given a 9" South Bend Lathe for free. I made fixtures to accommodate some small milling jobs. I'm 88 now and still can't give up. LOL
Cut to modern life and this film will be made in China and America will be left in ruins. Sad
ОтветитьUS$10.00Thanks!. US$10.00Thanks!.
ОтветитьI hope and wish we could get back to controlling our own manufacturing and production future, and not ever rely on other questionable countries to control our ability to provide what ever we need. America in those days was magnificent.
ОтветитьI’m a Mechanical Engineer. I graduated college in 86. I rely on men like this to produce the things that I and my team design. The men who produce these things are true craftsmen.
ОтветитьGrew up in Wisconsin, close to Milwaukee, the machine shop of the world.
ОтветитьI'm a NYS mold maker. Don't get into it, pay is less than it was in 1990 and the cost of living has tripled since then.
Do you really want to breathe metal slag and develop cancer 10 years before retirement age?
Why do you think it all got sent to third world countries? Cause you can pay people cents on the dollar to get make your profits and then its venezeulan or vietnamese workers dying at 45 from lung cancer.
Everyone only cares about tick tock and being trans now. America is weak and the old men that built the country on work can't keep it on the rails
ОтветитьMáquinas incríves
Ответитьincredible to see this video and think that people today waste time on tiktok and all the online bs....
ОтветитьI was one of the last people to meet with William Grede who was the head of Grede Foundry located in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. His wife and daughter were with me when I met him in his private suite at a nursing home located in Brookfield, Wisconsin. It was a Friday afternoon when we went to see Mr. Grede. He died the following Sunday afternoon in June, 1989. When I attended his funeral there were roughly 3,000 people who were there in Wauwatosa in attendance. It was an impressive funeral and I was honored to be there. America at its finest. As we spoke that Friday afternoon, Mr. Grede was confined to a wheelchair and was tapping his cane on the foot pedestal of the wheelchair. He lost his ability to speak but it looked as though he was indicating the wheelchair could have been made better. Remarkable. All the way to the end.
ОтветитьThe US decided it was more important to produce lawyers, bankers, athletes, entertainers and social media than the nuts and bolts people and things that industrial civilization runs on. So the center of wealth and power is moving away from them forever, and no amount of laws, financial sanctions, sports, music or instagram posts can get it back.
ОтветитьSad that most of America’s industry was outsourced bc ppl wanted to make an extra buck due to utter greed
ОтветитьLove these old documentaries. I grew up with them in class rooms in 50s and 60s. America was a very different place in those times. Thank you for this.
ОтветитьEventually - their comrades would sell out their country.
ОтветитьI am from India, in 1960 my father started, die making in Delhi, with one lathe, drill, tool Post grinder. Actually my father was a Engraver. At that time, only 5-10 mold maker, and 5-7 from my community. So you can say that, The starting of die making was started by my community in Delhi, India.
ОтветитьGrandad was just leaving Korea or beginning his machine shop career in 53. He retired in 92 I think
ОтветитьC H I N A
ОтветитьIt’s all been shipped to Asia and it’s going to be very difficult if not impossible to catch back up to the technological advances in China
ОтветитьGREAT episode!
ОтветитьI worked 8 years in the ford Dyno lab machine shop, learned so much. This video reminds me of lab so much
Ответить16.34 and 20.16 will give you an idea how 3D profile was made in past . I was always curious to know that . Would love to see more how they do it on these machines. Being a CNC programmer today I see tool and die guy today as a assembler of parts made on the CNC’S or other manual machines , giving trials on the machine for the high spots or low spots . To me I believe tool and die apprentice should be taught everything from programming 3D machining on CAM software to designing on CAD software . System has been changed nowadays in North America , please don’t make tool and die guys as assemblers, die fitters etc . Make them a complete man . I hate when a guy finishes his apprenticeship with not being allowed to cover the whole aspect of the game , which makes him work on specific tasks and doesn’t let him to explore more .
Ответить200lbs to pull apart Guage blocks? Yea I'm gonna call bullshit on that one.
ОтветитьLONG LIVE FOR PRINCIPLES OF SAMUEL GOMPERS BY AFL CIO BY UNION WORKING AUTO IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA .LONG LIVE FOR PRINCIPLES OF DEMOCRATIC PARTY BY FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSVELT AND .JOE BIDEN FOR THE LIBERTY AND PROGRESS OF THE WORKING CLASS IN THE WORD EVERY DAY TODAY FOR EVER ...
ОтветитьLONG LIVE FOR PRINCIPLES OF SCIENTIFIC MANAGEMENT ..BY. FREDERICK WINSLOV TAYLOR PRINCIPLES OF RAPID STEEL TOOLS OF THE MACHINE TOOLS EQUIPMENT BY AMERICAN SYSTEM TO MASS PRODUCTION BY MIDVALE STEEL COMPANY AND BETHLEHEM STEEL COMPANY PHILADELPHIA GERMANTOWN WILLIAM SELLERS AMERICAN STANDARD AT YEAR 1864 BY RAYL ROAD INDUSTRY IN WAR CIVIL OF US ARMY OF ABRAMO LINCOLN AND THE PRINCIPLES OF THE UNION WORKING AUTO AFL CIO OF SAMUEL GOMPERS THE GIGANT OF THE WORKING CLASS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMARICA AND FOR LIBERTY AND THE PROGRESS FOR WORKING CLASS IN THE WORD ..AMERICA EUROPA ASIA AND IN AFRICA ...
ОтветитьAnd now automation is eliminating to many jobs , eventually there won’t be enough jobs to go around.
ОтветитьMy 1st wife's family were all tool and die makers for General Motors. They each worked over 40 years in the trade. Her father was a tool room welder, one of her uncles was a group leader and the other ended up being superintendent of the tool room.
None of their children wanted anything to do with the skilled trades and I am the only one who did. My Journeyman's card is as a Plant Utilities Engineer and I have been in the trades for close to 50 years myself. I have some of their tools and a couple of great wooden tool boxes to keep them in.
I try to get young people interested in the skilled trades and help them in any way possible to make them into good reliable tradesmen. This is the only way to keep the trades alive...
I'm a retired tool and die person too, from the printing press industry. I find it ironic that many industries have given up training T&D people in favor of using non-toolmaker trained CNC programmers from universities. Now they're all whining they can't get quality help anymore or the cost is too high because of Unions, so they farm it out to foreign countries.
I've fixed so many screwed up projects in my life because these so called university engineers had no T&D experience themselves and didn't even now the basics. I've actually met guys who didn't know how to determine a press fit clearances, , or a calculate a running fit, etc.or couldn't even properly tolerance a machine drawing. Really a sad state of affairs these days! I laughed at the opening comments that automobiles could be afforded by anyone because of mass production, not anymore. At $50,000 a pop most average people struggle to or can't afford a car, or a washing machine anymore, or anything else for that matter. A remember hearing production managers tell us T&D guys CNC would replace us all!! But they never told us who would have to program them!!
I see all the comments here about the USA needing apprentices...and I wonder where the hell we're going to find them. Kids are being taught from a young age to hate the USA and all it stands for while promoting homosexuality, transsexualism, transvestism, and racism. It's ugly, and it has to be faced. It is now quaint to see Americans working in factories like this in the 1950's and being able to pay for their homes on those salaries. The average mortgage in the USA as I write this is over $2,600 per month; even accounting for inflation, this is triple the cost of a mortgage for an average home in the 1950's. Few can afford this on one salary, and those assembly workers are now in China, India, and Indonesia. This is the reality.
ОтветитьMy father was a tool and die maker and a mold designer. Our government sold out the tool and die industry in the early 1970's. They not only ruined their markets by allowing cheaper overseas companies to come in, they literally starved them out of business by giving defense contracts to offshore companies.
We are now seeing the results of our own governments greed and malfeasance as a third generation of American kids is graduating into the work world with no manufacturing skills or even basic knowledge of mechanical or electronic devices.
My Dad emigrated to the US with my mum in '65. He got a job as a tool and die designer for GM. I popped out in 66 so I missed England winning the world cup.
I was living in the US and doing high school in the early 80"s There were no apprenticeships to be found. We we're going to move back to the UK and my dad's mate said about apprenticeships at Rolls Royce but by the time I got back, they had dried up.
I ended up doing architecture but the more I see manufacturing videos, the more I think I missed my calling. I like doing things with my hands. When I first got into architecture it was all hand draughting but then came the computer and I've been driving a mouse ever since.
Ive been doing centerless grinding,surface grinding, and form grinding for 24 years, damn good trade to work in,no student loan debt either,you earn as you learn
ОтветитьI am part of the last generation that worked in the old manufacturing industry. Did apprenticeship ( 1980 ) with a buddy at United Shoe Manufacturing corporation ( USMC ). A once powerful and great manufacturing Corp. that allowed me to see what it was like. My fellow graduates went to different machining department's. I went to piece work on a vertical and horizontal Cincinnati mill that had 20 machines. Others went to large and small plainers, 4 spindle drill press, cutter and drill sharpening, lathe, turret lathe, and tool and dy shop. A once busy 3 shift factory with its own foundry but now 1 shift. I then worked for GE in Lynn MASS leaving as an R 25 CNC horz boring mill operator. In 87 there were layoffs and I resigned before they started. I worked in the gear plant in Lynn MASS. All the machines were manual and for large parts needing overhead cranes with crews to position and remove parts. The GEAR plant is now a vacant lot and the once proud employer of 20k employees in 3 divisions has 3,5k and 1 division. I at least had an opportunity to work in factories before our politicians sold us out
ОтветитьAnd now America, relies on China and every other country around the world to supply our needs'. No more is America the leader in manufacturing and production. this country doesn't even make our own medicine and Antibiotics' anymore we rely on china for that. America is just a shadow of what we once were. and will never be again. The love of money has taken all that away. Greed is america's new focus now.
Ответитьamerica is fantastic blabla
ОтветитьDamn shame what we’ve done to ourselves
ОтветитьI run manuals in the fab shop i work at as well as welding/ fabricating i enjoy it. something about turning a peice of nothing into something is quite satisfying.
ОтветитьI had a friend who was a tool and die maker. He was hit by a tool and died.
ОтветитьThe building i work in was formerly a tool and die company my boss' father owned. We have quite a few real old machines they used. Now we fix molds(among other things) with precision welding done under a microscope.
ОтветитьBack in the days when America was strong and bold and actually made things. We've fallen so far since these days.
ОтветитьBack when TPTB still wanted Americans to make stuff instead of sitting at home getting fat and ordering cheap imported crap via the internet.
ОтветитьWow, an educational video, turned into a propaganda piece for the industrial military complex, it always comes down to that.
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