What should you do about WAVES New Business Model?

You don't HAVE to upgrade plugins. Even v9 works in 2023.

What should you do about WAVES New Business Model? STOP TO USE WAVE PLUGINS !!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop to use any subscription only software!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bunch of crooks

I am done with them!!! will never use or buy their products Chris. I am a regular blue collar worker, wouln"t be possible for me to afford updates etc... IK multimedia for me Chris....Sadly I also will not be watching your tutorials anymore...Waves involment.

I gave up on Waves several years ago. They STILL have not learned how to treat their customers.

I’ve deleted all my Wave plugins. I will only buy plugins that are a one off purchase from now on

UA is doing native now. You don’t need to pay for Spark.

no.

Only be slave of your guitar.

Totally agree with you Chris.

I predict that your prediction, "Maybe they will change their model prediction and offer more options in the future", will come true later on today (3/29/2023) in a just few hours time.

Black list the greedy fuckers don't buy anything on their website.

I like the way you think. I agree with you.

Commercial suicide comes to mind!

you can NOW update your perpetual, they want $21.60 for the year for just 1 Vocal Rider? when i paid $29 for it?? umm, no thank you WAVES, i will pay $29 for DynaRide 2 (TBPro Audio) , or pay $39 for Outlaw (WA Production). and NOT repay EVERY YEAR for same EXACT plug-in

It's disgraceful they even TRIED to do this and I don't trust them anymoreso won't be buying waves again as I think they will try to do it another way. Now we know what they want

Ich bin nicht auf waves angewiesen. Gibt es mittlerweile bedeutend bessere plugins Anbieter.

My L3 Multiband Compressor Plug-in!!!! No!!!!! This is bad news. My goodness!!

Great advice Chris! Thank you!

baba u straight on. bang on

I'm glad they listened to what we had to say. as an apology they should abolish the wup and we will forget about this incident. waves take example from competitors like plugin alliance, softube, etc. free updates are nothing above average. it would be a nice gift for loyal customers.

FU-c Waves product... We have been
Robbed.  I have over $2,000. Of waves bundles.  Now if I need to change computers.  I can't reload my waves product...with OUT needing to Pay Waves more money... it's down right criminal.   They should have offered monthly subs for those that havent already spend tons of money with them. They should have had options for users that already purchases software from them.
"CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT NEED TO TAKE PLACE... THEY FALSE ADVERTISE THEIR PERPETUAL SOFTWARE LICENSE... WAVES HAS LOST MY BUSINESS FOR EVER!!!!

It is imperative to align with the interests of the public, as the current actions of WAVEs are unjustifiable. The purchase of bundles should not necessitate monthly payments, particularly for plug-ins that are relatively low maintenance for a corporation. This approach by Waves appears to have an insatiable thirst for profit, plain and simple. While there are many alternatives available, as a company, you have the right to make decisions that suit your best interests just as consumers have the right to make their own choices. Nonetheless, we need not wait for the outcome to act. By uniting now, we can strive towards an outcome that benefits both Waves and the consumers. Let us work together to achieve a mutually beneficial solution. Just as you balance the mix, lets balance this! Just my $0.02 PS, you have a great platform, keep doing the great works

Well, good news they reversed. I get the 'you can use whatever plugins'. My problem is... I invested, over the last 20 (?) years, thousands of EUR. Bought them. Paid the update plan when necessary. And now, when there is a new OS, I cannot use none anymore? This has nothing to do with that I have alternatives. I like a lot of WAVES plugins, bought them, and I want to continue using them.

This is already backfiring for Waves

They made an update they now have the perpetual licenses and the subscription plan.

as long as i know how to eq, and use my ears i don't their plugs,

Waves have adjusted their position and are reinstating perpetual licences alongside the subscription options. Like they should have done all along. They certainly raised their Internet traffic over the past couple of days. Maybe that's what they were trying to do all along.

I always had as a challenge to use to the maximum if not exclusively the plugins natively included with my DAW in my case Cubase, this new one makes only reinforce my idea.

Waves just sent out a notice that they will offer subscriptions and perpetual licenses.

Updates and single plugin purchases are back plus subscriptions. Waves reacted to negative feedback of the user community.

I received a mail from Meir Shashoua - CTO von Waves - they will continue with perpetual licences, additional to the subscription model

I am DONE with WAVES !!! I sent them a personal message and also to one of their sales reps . I am DONE with them , NEVER will give them my business again !!! However on the flip side , I really don't need waves . I have a Hybrid setup and use UAD plugins sparingly anyway , however waves just made it easy for me to say GOODBYE !!! That's another reason why I'm happy that I use mainly hardware that I would NEVER want plugins for at all !!! , such as my Avalon 737sp , my Apogee track 2 , my Manly Slam , my SSL Gbus , my Empirical labs EL8's , my Maaq Mastering EQ4 etc . So not missing waves AT ALL !!!

We spoke - They listened. Looks like Waves is doing some backpedaling

Thanks, Chris and well said. Improve your skills and don't be enslaved to plug-ins.

I just got an email from Waves cto saying they are bringing back the perpetual license model so you can choose both.

Message from Waves (I've removed the names of Waves' representetive)

Dear Waves community,

My name is ////// of Waves Audio.

Over the past few days, many of you have expressed concerns about our decision to discontinue perpetual plugin licenses and our move to an exclusive plugin subscription model. I would like to start by apologizing for the frustration we have caused many of you, our loyal customers. We understand that our move was sudden and disruptive, and did not sufficiently take into consideration your needs, wishes, and preferences. We are genuinely sorry for the distress it has caused.

After respectfully listening to your concerns, I want to share with you that we are bringing back the perpetual plugin license model, side-by-side with the new subscriptions. You will again be able to get plugins as perpetual licenses, just as before.

In addition, those of you who already own perpetual licenses will once again be able to update your plugins and receive a second license via the Waves Update Plan—again, just as before. This option, too, will be available alongside and independently of the subscription program.

We are currently putting all our efforts into making perpetual licenses available to you again, as quickly as possible. In the meantime, you can keep up-to-date on this news page, where we will post the latest updates on perpetual license availability.

I would like you to know that we are committed to you, our users. We listened to your feedback, and we will continue to listen to you. Waves is a company filled with users and creators, just like you, and we are all as passionate about the products as you are. With this in mind, we will strive to find the way to make things right by you, and hopefully regain your trust.

Thank you for your feedback and continued support—I wish you all the best, /////

JUST IN FROM WAVES, THEY ARE GOING TO BRING BACK THE PLUGINS BUT ANYTHING NEW YOU PURCHASE WILL BE SUBSCRIPTION ONLY, THEY'LL BE ALLOWING THEM SIDE BY SIDE SO EVERYONES GOOD NOW THAT ALREADY OWNS THEM....

Glad to hear Waves is listening to their customer base and is re-instituting perpetual licenses...

Just got this email today from Waves : Dear Waves community,


My name is Meir Shashoua, and I’m the CTO and Co-Founder of Waves Audio.


Over the past few days, many of you have expressed concerns about our decision to discontinue perpetual plugin licenses and our move to an exclusive plugin subscription model. I would like to start by apologizing for the frustration we have caused many of you, our loyal customers. We understand that our move was sudden and disruptive, and did not sufficiently take into consideration your needs, wishes, and preferences. We are genuinely sorry for the distress it has caused.


After respectfully listening to your concerns, I want to share with you that we are bringing back the perpetual plugin license model, side-by-side with the new subscriptions. You will again be able to get plugins as perpetual licenses, just as before.


In addition, those of you who already own perpetual licenses will once again be able to update your plugins and receive a second license via the Waves Update Plan—again, just as before. This option, too, will be available alongside and independently of the subscription program.


We are currently putting all our efforts into making perpetual licenses available to you again, as quickly as possible. In the meantime, you can keep up-to-date on this news page, where we will post the latest updates on perpetual license availability.


I would like you to know that we are committed to you, our users. We listened to your feedback, and we will continue to listen to you. Waves is a company filled with users and creators, just like you, and we are all as passionate about the products as you are. With this in mind, we will strive to find the way to make things right by you, and hopefully regain your trust.


Thank you for your feedback and continued support—I wish you all the best,


Meir Shashoua
CTO and Co-Founder, Waves Audio

Power to the people! New statement out from waves Co-founder stating perpetual licenses will be continued alongside the new subscription after the flurry of negative social media comments from users. 😮😂

Let them die 😂 ua or another company will pick up their scraps and rerelease it with a new ui

Pro tools has excellent plug ins Thank goodness i dont use Waves. I use Fab filter products. I hope fab filter doesn't go subscription base.

They have just capitulated!

Dear Waves community,


My name is Meir Shashoua, and I’m the CTO and Co-Founder of Waves Audio.


Over the past few days, many of you have expressed concerns about our decision to discontinue perpetual plugin licenses and our move to an exclusive plugin subscription model. I would like to start by apologizing for the frustration we have caused many of you, our loyal customers. We understand that our move was sudden and disruptive, and did not sufficiently take into consideration your needs, wishes, and preferences. We are genuinely sorry for the distress it has caused.


After respectfully listening to your concerns, I want to share with you that we are bringing back the perpetual plugin license model, side-by-side with the new subscriptions. You will again be able to get plugins as perpetual licenses, just as before.


In addition, those of you who already own perpetual licenses will once again be able to update your plugins and receive a second license via the Waves Update Plan—again, just as before. This option, too, will be available alongside and independently of the subscription program.


We are currently putting all our efforts into making perpetual licenses available to you again, as quickly as possible. In the meantime, you can keep up-to-date on this news page, where we will post the latest updates on perpetual license availability.


I would like you to know that we are committed to you, our users. We listened to your feedback, and we will continue to listen to you. Waves is a company filled with users and creators, just like you, and we are all as passionate about the products as you are. With this in mind, we will strive to find the way to make things right by you, and hopefully regain your trust.


Thank you for your feedback and continued support—I wish you all the best,


Meir Shashoua
CTO and Co-Founder, Waves Audio

I don’t trust them at all. We’ll see if there aren’t any shady terms and conditions. Again, remember, according to current Terms if you sub then you lose your perpetual licenses. Also, their subscriptions are lame and not flexible enough. I wouldn’t call this a big win. Just a little win with a company that hates it’s customers.

What do you need to mix? A channel strip (Gain, Filters, Compressor, Expander, EQ), De-esser or dynamic EQ. Distortion/Saturation, Delay, Reverb. Maybe pitch correction. And some other Plug-Ins on the Master Bus. Those effects are provided by so many Plug In manufacturers. What bugs me is that I bought the right to use these plug-ins and with such a move they restrict my options to use them in the future. I hope somebody will take legal steps against WAVES to protect the ownership rights of their customers.

Waves just reversed its decision.

I'm sorry but this is all a delusion. You ARE slave to the tools you work with, one way or another. R u mixing in the box or hybrid? Then you're a slave to a computer. You mix with a DAW? Well, you can't do it without plugins. What you're saying is that you are not slave to one particular option or another which is very different, because, guess what: you can very easily run out of options in the future. If Waves' model of business catches on and others follow it, soon everything will be subscription even if you've already bought it. Which is why it is vital that we react and react in a very strong way.