Mr. Luke Caverns: Report on the Olmec Giant Stone Heads of Mesoamerica

In my decades of avocational marine archeology field work in the Yucatan, Belize and the Bahamas was taken by one of Belize's two archeologists to see its crystal scull in the jail at Belmopan (better quality than the ones in the British Museum annex). One issue is of course which world is old and which is new. See also old friend Barry Fell's Ancient America and acquaintance Dr. Cyrus Gordon's works as well as acquaintance Thor Heyerdahl's last book as well as his pyramids and museum in Tenerife.

Umm, the earliest recorded maize cobs come from caves basically dated to about 5,500 years ago, the earliest corn phytolith evidence, if you want to accept it is from about 8,000 years ago. But 20,000 years?!?, definitely no one was farming maize. Earliest estimates of farming in Mesoamerica is about 5k years old with parallel development of cotton with Peru.

This was fascinating.

Great job Luke. Could have giving you another hour!

Thanks for all this work at the Cosmic Summit

Someone should make a helmet with those magnetic cubes and see what happens.

When I see the meandering pattern, I see waves... Could it just be "water" or "sea". Probably not that simple, but perhaps it is a symbol of prehistory to denote where the information came from. "This was built by men from the sea"

I really wish he would stop pronouncing the word jaguar “jag-wire” it drives me crazy.

Really enjoyed this

Nice work!

If we ever manage to LIDAR the jungles of Central & South America, I suspect we will find a civilization equal to India.

Phoenician was the Greek name for Canaanites.

This is great!

Wow! What a lovely presentation! Thoroughly enjoyed 🙏🏽

The meander looks like waves. Could it represent a seafaring culture? Hopefully I’m not early and you mention it at the end. Haha

Genetic engineering via selectively breeding Isnt that how we got corn and potatoes? They have some real big brains operating there.

The meander shown at 43 minutes is actually a yin yang but its more complex because that is just a basic meander and in other depictions its actually showing a swastika and i think its them showing they are educated in geometry. In Celtic cultures they would carve spirals and these are also from swastika its the same culture just expressed differently. If you think im talking BS google the flag of the Isle of Man that is a 3 sided swastika but its also 3 spirals if we where to start doing geometry attempting to draw 3 spirals or a 3 sided yin yang would begin by drawing the swastika and the right angles of the swastika aid in the drawing of the spirals. Then you would remove the swastika at the end of the drawing of the spiral or yin yang and you would have a perfect geometric image...

Is it possible the meander pattern began as a representation of a wave? As in, an ocean wave?

Fantastic eye opening presentation, many thanks.

So glad someone is actually putting the work in on the Olmec culture... SO LITTLE is known about them. When I took all of my anthropology courses in college, we just BREEZED over them in like a paragraph, and my professor basically said "we just don't know anything about them, there's not a lot to work with". And she specialized in Mesoamerica (although mostly in the Inca). Probably my favorite part of college was studying anthropology, although I was more interested in the biological aspect of it. Wish I would have followed it further into archeology, but I decided to change majors to Astronomy, lol. Great work, Luke, your bringing new life and new interest into a part of history that has been ignored or passed over for too long. And there is so much interesting stuff here that I've NEVER heard about before.

Lie lies lie the people or that region now have nothing to do with the olmec nor the Mayans yes you so called African Americans you guys are they greatest secret that’s never told

Luke is such a cool guy. Glad to see him on the right team 💪💪

I dated a man from Mexico City, his family was originally from the Yucatán Peninsula.
He was 6’2 very big boned, beautiful latte cafe skin color.
He looked exactly like a conglomeration of the Olmeca heads.

Type in triskelion and go to the wikipedia and you will see the pattern at 40 mins into the video on a Mycenae gold cup, the only difference is that the Mycenae cup is in spirals not geometric shapes like in most of these patterns.

If you take the Mayan alphabet of monkey, bird, snakes, etc, and unwrap the critter-skin you find scritch-scratch marks for each one that are 80% of the early Phoenician trading script. Sometimes a group would flip a character or morph a bit, but the lineage clear. Throw in oldest Egyptian murals, and a Mesopotamian likewise, show stacks of maize being distributed when this food was lost to Olde World we can assume another connection. Finally, I’d point to Mayan figures in animal skins, especially of Jaguar Warriors wearing fur pants, tails and masks all acting, forceful, kings and leaders and the origins of Egyptian animal-human figures, like Thoth. I surmise the mountainous central American culture that leads to Maya survived the Great Flood event and sent trade and gifts overseas to rebuild.
It’s a reasonable notion.

It's so great to see Luke Caverns growing so quickly in the field. Literally history changing work being done.

Olmecs , Aztec,mayan civilization have too much similarities with sanatan hindu symbolism, those mushroom also represent shivaling the symbol of shiva

Imagine if the hub of all these ancient cultures, the motherland of them all, was America...then the asteroid hit and the entire upper continent got washed away it ginormous tsumanis....how deep would we need to dig? If an olmec head is buried 20metres down? What about in America? 40 metres? 60 metres?

Teotihuacan. African name for the god Thoth was Teoti. Thoth, the builder of the great pyramid left Khemet (ancient Egypt) with a band of Africans (Olmecs) after falling out with his brother. He went to the Americas which was called "Amruca" by the natives to build Pyramids and cities. He built Teotihuacan. The name means "city of Teoti" or city of Thoth and was built along time before the mayans, aztecs and incas. 10000s if years before.

Great work, very interesting.

Stoked for the upload. Its one thing for Nerdrotic to talk about this lecture, its a frikkin joy to finally watch it. Thank you. Great job, Luke.

If the pieces of the rock removed from the alters was left next to them, can you tell what kind of tools they used to shape the alters? Were they big chunks of rock or were they like sand or a combination of the two? What kind of tools did the ancient Greeks use? It is, apparently, still a mystery in Egypt.

Yeah fantastic presentation Luke! Cant wait to see where you go and what you add to the summit next year.. in the meantime, love the podcasts with Jahannah!

Also.. I wonder if the Meander could be representing ocean waves and therefore a symbol of sea-going civilizations? Edit: lots of people wondering this too haha

Just a guess: perhaps the rich and verdant pre-desert Sahara civilization is the source for both Middle America and Egypt.

The Olmec heads are African, you could have shown the head with corn rows on the back.

That meander that patern is not too disimalr to the swirl affects that i see when im on psychadelics. Maybe those civilizations used psychedelics and the architecture and symbolism is a mirror of what kind of things they saw while using psychedelics.

very good

I realllllllly hope this guy keeps digging into the 'olmecs' and writes a book

New info for AI to munch on 😁

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lol I wonder if anyone or anything came back to check if the Jade figures were still there a second time since being removed

Very good presentation!

Haha, you’re not an Olmec scholar. You’re straight trash. You did not find anything either.

Good stuff