Does Science Point to God? Eric Metaxas and Stephen Meyer Discuss

The truth of the existence of this god who is presumably omnipotent could just show up and settle the question for all without further denial and skepticism ! Instead this cosmic entity agency remains hidden ! WHY ??

If science points to god it does not mean to jesus or makes bible true or quran true. It just says some super power behind it, these bogus man made religions are still false and have nothing to do with that super power. So dont flatter yourself.

God is beyond our understanding,
We just have to accept that we can understand science but don't dare to think that we can understand God, God is who said he is in the bible, you have to simply have faith in that truth,

Science doesn’t point to anything, science is a tool used to either prove or disprove a hypothesis. 😊

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LOGICAL ARGUMENTS FOR  A CREATOR GOD…EVEN MORE EVIDENCE

For those of you struggling with the concept of the existence of a CREATOR GOD and who do not want it rammed down your throat with religious fanaticism or  only based on BLIND FAITH, perhaps this logical line of reasoning will help you make a more informed decision…one not based solely on blind faith alone but based also on the FACTS and the evidence that we do SEE.

I have studied the evidence for and against the existence of a CREATOR GOD for many years and from the perspective of various scientific disciplines. There will still be some element of BLIND FAITH involved but this opinion is based on the  INCONTROVERTIBLE, UNDENIABLE and IRREFUTABLE FACTS that we do see. 

HERE IS WHAT I MEAN

I see our machine of life as having an unlimited capacity for self repair and maintenance and with numerous back-up and FAIL SAFE systems. Our design of life has a HARD DRIVE, a set of incredibly detailed programs encoded in our DNA by a DOUBLE BINARY code of four chemical letters and a built-in factory 3-D printer  which can manufacture materials that we need from scratch….this is truly AMAZING and it is obvious to all but the most cynical of people that this is not just an accident over time. 

What do the “ evolutionists “ want me to believe…that this all just developed by itself ? Are they kidding? These complex DNA programs make our most sophisticated and advanced BINARY computer programs look like child's play and now more and more previously cynical scientists have confirmed that it impossible for our DNA to have developed “ spontaneously “ over time.

Instead, based on my observations, and borrowing an expression from my thirty years as a TRIAL LAWYER, I come to the conclusion that;

From the PREPONDERANCE OF PROOF and on the BALANCE OF PROBABILITIES, it is much more LOGICAL to conclude that our DESIGN OF LIFE is the work of a CREATOR GOD or an INTELLIGENT DESIGNER  rather than just the result of RANDOM chance and the mere passage of time…so this is not just a matter of blind faith…it is rational, intelligent LOGIC.

This CREATOR is not some mythical or magical entity or some "religious", vague or intangible construct but a real, highly advanced being who created our design of life. 

For example, when you examine our INNATE IMMUNE SYSTEM, one of TWO such systems that we have, the other being the ADAPTIVE immune system, you learn that it takes on average twenty (20) separate and distinct chronological chemical steps, executed in perfect SEQUENCE, to illicit even one immune response. Recently we discovered another program hidden in our DNA which we were unaware of whereby the body cleanses itself of pathogens and even cancer cells when we go through an extended FAST which has been dubbed AUTOPHAGY and has won a NOBEL prize for its discoverer Yoshinori Ohsumi. 

This fasting methodology has been further perfected by Dr. Alan Goldhamer who cured a 43 year old patient with stage 4 follicular cancer with a 21 day supervised water fast which was reported in LANCET the world’s most prestigious medical journal.

This raises the prospect that there are other such wonderful programs which GOD has installed into our hard drive and software and which we have yet to discover. This confirms the GOD given origins of the prescription in the BIBLE for fasting because there is no way our ancestors would have known about the benefits of  this FASTING  " program". 

Even more recently the researchers at Cardiff University in Wales discovered a cell marker they called MR-1 which can identify any cancer cells in the body and an existing specific killer T-cell which recognizes it, so we do not have to treat every type of cancer differently and it does this in all people…a UNIVERSAL marker ! 

What do the “evolution” theorists want us to believe? That a bolt of lightning hit a pile of doo-doo four billion years ago…and BINGO…here we are with all these complex programs ? This is patent NONSENSE and violates plain COMMON SENSE. The MAIN arguments in the theory of EVOLUTION are so fragile that they can be dismissed with numerous arguments, but this following simple argument is more than enough;

If EVOLUTION alone explains our existence, then how come APES are still swinging in the trees, something which is a FLAGRANT flaw in that “ theory ”. Saying that we “ split “ off from a common ancestor would still not explain why the other ape line did not build skyscrapers before we did. As President Johnson once said;

“ You cannot SUCK and BLOW at the same time”.

Either we "evolved" from the more primitive APES or we did not. The fact that APES still exist or that they did not build skyscrapers before we did…cannot be explained by the theory of evolution and is one of its fatal flaws. 

Finally, we are no longer primitive camel drivers or sheep herders and we can accept the probability that the CREATOR GOD is an actual, real and physical being in whose “ image we were made “, as it says, and not just some imaginary, illusionary or mystical entity. According to the numerous accounts of people who have had what I call instead PREMATURE TEMPORARY DEATH experiences, it may be that GOD is some exotic form of life or pure energy who can also take on any physical form he chooses. Let's hope to find out the whole truth one day. 

GOD'S GREAT DESIGN SHOULD NOT BE INTERFERED WITH

One of the main consequences of this design of life being the work of a CREATOR GOD is that mankind should reconsider the way the mainstream medical community deals with catastrophic illnesses, cancer and the constantly newly emerging pathogens like the COVID-19 virus which has paralysed the planet. Their obsession with toxic drugs, burning radiation and slashing surgery is a monumental FAILURE as is their mis-guided focus on mainly treating symptoms and not curing the underlying cause of an illness. 

We should consider a paradigm shift in the way we deal with these diseases and explore new ALTERNATIVE sciences which do not interfere with some of the very elements of this perfect and complex design of life that the CREATOR GOD gave us to protect us. 

It is mankind’s divine duty and privilege to try to find better ways to deal with these illnesses and cancers and pathogens like these new viruses, and stop the WANTON and sinful SLAUGHTER of so many of GOD’s children of all ages. Millions of people die every year because of our primitive state of knowledge about this design and because of their misguided obsession with methods which interfere with some of the very components of this design of life which GOD gave us to protect us. 

One such non-intrusive and non-toxic ALT science is that of DR. RAYMOND ROYAL RIFE who back in the 1930’s cured many diseases and killed numerous pathogens and viruses using only RADIO FREQUENCY. His methods were tested in a controlled clinical trial at USC in 1934 where he cured 16 out of 16 terminally ill patients, 14 with Cancer and 2 with Tuberculosis and were so effective that the A.M.A led by Dr. Morris Fishbein tried to buy shares in his company. When RIFE refused, the A.M.A. banned his method and prosecuted doctors using it. Unlike other wild and unproven "conspiracy" theories about suppressed secret CURES, the AMA and RIFE ended up in a COURT battle where all of the  evidence of how effective this RIFE method was became a matter of public record...which is why it appealed to me as a lawyer. 

Efforts to revive the science of RIFE  have failed to date because they have not EXACTLY duplicated his ORIGINAL work and have not used his original killer frequencies nor the other elements of his treatment protocol…which is what I am trying desperately to organize. 

WE NEED A PARADIGM SHIFT IN HOW TO TREAT DISEASE

This is the type of alternative non toxic and non intrusive method which we should be exploring and COMBINING it with other alternative sciences such as the  FASTING and various forms of OXYGEN therapy which  have already been proven very effective by the work of such brilliant and forward looking doctors as DR. ALAN GOLDHAMMER, DR. ROBERT ROWAN, DR. TULIO SIMONCINI and DR. DAVID WILLIAMS. 

My own GOD given inspiration has been to ultimately combine such non toxic alternative sciences, use the existing programs GOD has given us, not interfere with them and finally also create an elixir where we just provide our magnificent  machine of life with the basic ingredients that it needs to work at its optimal efficiency and which I have labelled "PERFORMACAL". The PER stands for both the PERFORIN which the immune system produces to blow up and get rid of diseased cells and pathogens and ALSO stands for PEROXIDE as a source of OXYGEN which is our main agent of life and which also kills cancers and pathogens. The MAG represents MAGNESIUM and the CAL represents CALCIUM, both of which along with water are the main effectors mechanisms of our immune system. 

CONCLUSION

I hope that these facts and these arguments help some of you struggling with this issue to finally resolve your confusion and get you to accept the LOGICAL conclusion of the existence of a CREATOR GOD…and if so, then welcome to the team and remember to look for signs of GOD'S help and involvement in your lives and acknowledge and thank him for it. Also please help SPREAD THE WORD to achieve this objective and the glorious goal of eliminating all evil influences from our world and for all of us to live in PEACE, LOVE and BROTHERHOOD as his son JOSHUA or JESUS preached.

The purpose of this article is to have people not only believe in a CREATOR GOD on blind faith but to KNOW that he exists based on the undeniable, incontrovertible and irrefutable facts.

The Bible is the inerrant Word of Our Gracious Creator God YHWH
Jesus is NOT a descendant of monkeys

Since when new York is a cultural capital of the world 😂😂😂😂😂? New York is the dive of the world. The worst place I have ever been to it is. 😂

Who cares.

It’s always city people who move out to the burbs or country and start raising chickens. They think they’re farmers or something like it’s easy. Please.

He said it; god of the gaps. Not only do some people assume a god is the cause of something scientists can't explain yet like the Greeks assumed Zeus was the cause of lightning before they could explain that, but then they make the reach to say that THEIR god is the right one, along with all the rules for our lives that come with it. And saying that the complexity of life and the universe demands a creator but that creator requires none is special pleading. Creationists will say that it was always there as if that makes sense, it only makes sense to them because they've repeated it so much, it's just as bad as panspermia.

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This guys arrogance is off putting to the point that 15mins in, I can no longer tolerate listening.

I used to respect Dr. Stephen Meyer. But I actually think he’s wasting his time, and everyone else’s. Few don’t believe, in the current age, that the universe began with a big bang approximately 13.8 billion years ago. There is plenty of evidence for that. But to postulate a ‘God’ is behind that, explains why he’s wasting his time, and that of his acolytes (hardened on friends). In the spirit of debate, his interviewer should not be one of them. 1. If God created the universe, who created God? An infinite regress. Is the God of the universe, and our world, a) All powerful and b) All good? Surely so. If not, he / she surely does not measure up to all we would expect of him / her. But given this, we see illness, disease, agonising and violent deaths, crime, depression, disability. Answer: there is no God. The universe doesn’t necessarily mandate us an answer to its meaning. But to find meaning second, we should consult science first.

If you are discussing if god exists than a meaningful discussion can result. If you already assume that god exists than you can't be unbiased and the conclusions are all tainted.

Meh. If there's a creator why on earth would they design something so complex? Through the history of science, we discover things that seem like magic and then we work out how they actually work... If there was a magical creator it follows there would be signs of that magic everywhere. And why the hell would they bother creating the big bang?? Totally unnecessary if our only purpose of being "created" is to live for a tiny amount of time before we get to eternity in heaven. Everything we discover, all the complexity, just pushes further and further away from God that the idea there's a god is now beyond rediculous. The gap between inert chemicals and "alive" chemicals may be even more complex, but it's an infinitely smaller gap to jump than believing in God

Listen. The people who need a supernatural human concerned universe are simply unable to deal with the actual scales of time and space. This is like hearing bacteria argue.

Science does not point to God. God cannot be pointed at. It is the Holy Spirit that ‘points’ to God as He reveals Himself through it.

I appreciate the humility and intelligence of Dr Meyer - Metaxis less considered responses and arrogance are one of the things that keep me from ever wanting to reconsider my associating with Christianity. While perhaps there is an order the universe which may point to a Designer I suspect Metaxis doesn’t know him/her.

There is a short and sweet answer to the question "Does science point to God?"... If one removes the fallacy which causes the first stumbling block and know that although it is spelled with a G the word is actually pronounced as Jod, then you can begin with understanding that the word is related to Jot and Dot (and the Hindi word Jyoti)... something tiny like an atom.

The revision of history is amazing here….

The Bible, when interpreted correctly, is empirical evidence that Jesus is God. This is the only legitimate religion, philosophy, and system of government. Anyone against this is a mentally ill enemy to humanity.

One thing Socrates knew. Humans in general are a seriously destructive ,'unevolved' Specie's....

That “blew his brains out in an alley” thing was very weird. What on earth did he say that for?

Really inspiring and entertaining! Thank you 🙏 ❤

IF IT TAKES A THOUSAND Years For EVOLUTION To Give Rise To The FIRST Animal HOW Long DID It TAKE For EVOLUTION To PRODUCE A COMPATIBLE Mate. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NATURE is god...

There.s a god but don.t bother to accept the bible as cast in stone god is as real as it gets,
be happy

God is real!

Scientific revolution came from Hinduism, it was Hindus that developed the foundations of mathematics. Arabs learnt from Hindus, Arabic numerals are actually Hindu numerals. First renaissance happened in Arab world but was short lived and was killed by fanatics. Christianity brought dark ages to Europe and renaissance came when people stopped literally believing in bible and Arab renaissance knowledge inspired free thinkers in Europe. Most quantum physicists were inspired by Hinduism and even big bang is best described in Hindu books, look for hymn of creation

Example how to make money by mouth doing nothing.

Can't have a painting without a painter!!!.

I mean if Food is created first
And then we are made to consume the food
Which different foods target areas of body . I think that alone points to God

Then they turn from The foods to shove pillls n illness on us

Science points to Evil

The Quran is sent down to people who think. Those gentle men and scientists out there are deep thinkers and am not surprised the direction they have taken.

Certainly there is God and No intelligent person will deny this reality . There is no “Randomness “ out there in the space especially when you watch the movement of those heavy objects .

May Allah be praised ❤

They don't want people to know that ONTOLOGY is the everything in our universe, the controllers don't want us to know that, because they will totally lose their control, all of science and academia is based on hiding this ontological TRUTH.....
It's all about the money for these parasites, we MUST work with the ONTOLOGY and shut down the controlling class... 🙏

in England, Netherlands today i would say the default position is to believe in a creator but not the man made religions

The answer is no.
Science works on tangible, proven things. None of those describe the Canaanite storm god. Sorry.

All science leads to God.

If earth is hit with fire & brimstone it's for a reason I'm still waiting for real pics real time cant we get a pic with the back of the moon with the earth in the back ground or fly north poll to south poll and back to north poll in a lined flight made put a camera on the front of the rocket so we can see as we go just saying

I don't think science points to god but I do think science is basically logical and analytical and if you get smart enough you be able to work out that god it's an acronym and it stands for granddaughter Dynasty and it was created by humans who are morons

The Problem Atheists have is
They Unnecessarily Overcomplicate it
God is simply the Existence of Love
we all acknowledge.

Everybody Believes Love exists

Unseen. But Absolutely Confirmable

Simple. But infinite in Power and Expression.

To Deflect & Ignore that is
Is not only Unfortunate

It’s Shameful

I could listen to you two for hours

What an inspiration and groundbreaker for the times we live in. . people and kids in schools need hope and only God can give them this precious gift . We need to teach our kids about this hope because so many are lost because of the false teachings that produce emptiness . The results are all around us . Thank you school system for using our kids as your guinea pigs.😡

I don't like interruption at some point. I hoped to let the guy finish his thoughts

People who have lost loved ones to suicide are not laughing at the joke

I'm pretty sure if science was pointing to God, it would make headline news. Stephen Meyer seems like a smart dude, but he doesn't understand science. I can confidently say that as a high school drop out, I know more about the scientific method than Stephen Meyer.

An ant, an impressive, remarkably well designed creature, will never be capable of fully understanding a nuclear reactor - its design, it's functions, or its purposes. It may recognize the existence of a nuclear reactor as a physical presence in its environment, but its understanding will never progress beyond that stage. The ant simply lacks the necessary neural equipment and cognitive powers..

And so it is too with man's understanding of God. We may recognize God's presence as manifested in various ways amenable to our observations and investigations. But a full comprehension of God's nature and purposes will always lie beyond our reach, no matter how sophisticated our science may eventually progress. In that context we are, and always will be, but mere ants.

the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs and 75 percent of all living organisms on earth 65 million years ago, is part of the plan of this intelligent designer ??

I'm going to try to explain this in the best way possible
People ask why, with all the evidence? Do we still teach satan?
The reason why is because they don't want to submit to God. Jesus and the Holy Spirit cause. Once they do, they have to acknowledge they are wrong. They are sinners, and they will go to hell if they don't accept Jesus Christ.
And that reason you can see from the greatest history book ever written The Holy Bible kinjain version.
It does start in Genesis, but I will say it like this. Everything happened in front of these people in Egypt. Then they went to the mountain, and after everything that happened, they still worshipped satan.
Then, after all that, you still had all this stuff that went through these battles and the tabernacle, and all these other things all the way up to
judges' numbers the book of Joshua, David, all the way app even till the time Jesus came and said, Hey, I'm here, I'm going to do all of this stuff and then he does it just like he didn't Exodus.
And all this stuff in front of him, and they still look at him like he doesn't exist.
They want their own life and in order to accept their own life, they have to reject everything that is good. Now, ultimately, they will still do some kind of good, because, as we know it's written in their heart, but the stuff they want to do that is evil because they reject God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. So much they submit to evil more than they do good.
On a side note that is also why. Due to rejecting God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, the Muslim community has formed. The mormons have formed. A Jehovah witness have formed Hinduism and others that are like that.
Because evil, it's easier to worship. Than god
Because God has a standard. That doesn't change everything else has a standard. Based on whatever you want, want.
That's also why we have gone. So far from God We rejected the sabbath day rejected gods food laws. We rejected his holidays and took on the demonic Catholic holidays. I forgot to mention Catholic too. In that other note
Easter Christmas, Halloween, New Year's are all demonic celebrations.