Automatic Shifting Ebike | Tern HSD S+

How reliable have you found the Automatiq to be, and have you ever retrofit one to a standard Enviolo hub?

I couldn't find this bike listed on Tern's website (6-17-23). Have there been problems with the "automatic transmission", or because of the automatic shifting being dependent on the bike's battery (main power supply)? That is, when the battery power is depleted, are you stuck in whatever gear the bike happens to be in when the power died? That would be hard to pedal back home!

So, what happens with the Enviolo automatiq when you run out of battery power? Do you stay in whatever happened to be the last gear that you were in, or does it default to some gear ratio in between? Can you even ride?

Excellent video. Ive owned a S+, bought as new from our local dealer in North devon UK, for about 2 months. Within the first month the bike kept showing error 596. The dealer said its nothing to worry about. Then the rear hub felt ‘gritty’ when pedalling and finally it seized all together showing error 761 - return bike to dealer! It had only done maybe 50 miles.
The rear hub was replaced under warrenty, no problem and off we went. We cycled 10 miles today and the bike was like it was stuck in 1st gear. I had to pedal furiously to make any ground and the bike just would not shift up. It’s exhausting rather than being pleasant. The Cadance is set to 30, the lowest it will go. This makes absolutely no difference. It was interesting seeing the tip to change it to a manual electric shift, thank you for that. I’m going to try that tomorrow. Meanwhile, any idea why it should be seemingly stuck in 1st gear? 👍

Does the battery charge while peddling if your not using the e assist

Yabancılar hayatını yaşıyor biz bu bisikleti almamız hayal en az 50 yılı bulur.

All e-bikes are heavy, compared to normal bicycles.

What a beautiful bike whould be great for me especially with arthritis in both of my hips , too bad I can't afford it ,

Amazing bike! I wish most people enjoy the feeling of riding a bike or e-bike.

このTernモデル、日本でも販売されてるのでしょうか？

This is a very nice bicycle...
If they install a belt guard, and make a more adjustable hand bar(to allow low height), it would be near perfect.
And I wish there were a 24" version.

この自転車で時速35.0Km/hぐらい可能でしょうか？

このモデル凄く気に入ってるけれど、Belt-guardがないので、ズボンが引っかかったり、雨で濡れたりするでしょうね。

日本でTern HSD S+ 販売してる代理店あるのかしら？
知ってる方、教えて頂けるとありがたいです。

One of the nicest e-bikes I've seen.

Can we shift the gear with power off?
自転車が止まってたり、電源無しでもギアー交換しても大丈夫なのでしょうか？
知ってる方がいれば教えて頂けるとありがたいです。

It's a very interesting bicycle. If the handle bar height were adjustable would be perfect. Climbing steep hill with a high handlebar is not easy.
Also, there's a need for a belt guard...somebody might get the pants or skirts caught .

For fat pigs like me all i care about is uphill tourge on demand.

When doing the presentation please mention the price 4 each bike and where it can b purchase it will help alot

Can the bike come with mag wheels I know it will b extra

It'll take me forever to save up for this bike. I'm getting a second job.

HI GREAT VIDEO HOW MUCH IS THIS EBIKE????

Hi Chris, could you please elaborate further on setting cadence on displace for the automatic gear? I don't like loose pedaling (like riding down hill on low gear) and would like to have a bit of constant resistance as I pedal regardless of train and modes of motor assist. With other types of gear I always shift constantly to the right level so I maintain that little resistance. But With Tern HSD S+ I can't seem to be able to figure out how to establish such control. I am aware of the two functions of setting cadence and shifting the gear on display, but am struggle with setting the two variable at such numbers that gives me a pleasant continuous resistance. Any tips?

Does it have a child seat attachment?

$5500! WTHeck😳

What happens with shifting when the battery dies? Will it still shift or it’s stuck to the last gear used before the battery dies?

Will we hear people saying I can't ride a stick bike?

Hi Chris, do you know if the gear interface eg. the automatic part is compatible with the N380 hub and is it retro- fixable?

What's US dollar price?

Whats the price for this bike ship here in Seattle USA?

nice but way too many moving parts

Just bought one today from local Tern dealer. Should have mine by this weekend, so my dog Max and I can go on adventures together. Thanks Chris for all you great Tern videos. Very informative! Thanks for the tip for riding in the "manual" mode. I live in Colorado Springs with many hills, so it allows me to even pedal downhill, rather than coasting. And also note, I'm 62 so electric peddle assist is going to allow me to bike in the Rockies with my aging knees. And I'm just barely 4'10" tall and shrinking and the Tern bikes accommodate my small stature as well. Highly recommend any of the Terns to anyone of any age or height. Enjoy the road and be safe!

It's a beautiful bike

Very good review, thanks

I am seriously considering buying this bike. It has everything that I’ve been looking for on a bike of this style. I do have just a couple questions:

1. I don’t really have any use or intentions to use the back rack, so is it capable of being removed to give the bike a more sleek look?

2. Which version of the Bosch Performance Line Motor is included on the bike (Cruise or Speed)? Also, does the motor have the same footprint as the Performance Line CX? I’m just curious if it would fit it’s possible to switch out the motor if I wanted to upgrade.

Thanks for the great review! It was very informative and covered every aspect that I wanted.

Great job! Thanks

Thanks for a useful video Chris. 2 questions:

Do you think Bosch will software update the power on this new Gen 3 motor like they did with Gen 4 recently? 65>75nm or whatever - heard any rumors?
and
How does the Enviolo Automatique manage going downhill? Does it recognise you are coasting yet accelerating, and put you into a higher gear?

Nice bike (shame they couldn't internally route more of the wiring - would look better for that)
Feel this top-spec model should be $4795, or $4995 max to get more folks onboard. But... that's me.

Hi, how much for that model?

Hi Chris ! I’am thinking if it’s possible to upgrade a RM Delite 2020 Vario to this enviolo AUTOMATIQ ? And if it’s a good idea for this kind of ebike (trekking/city) ? Thanks

Excellent review! Out of curiosity, is there a reason why Tern chose to outfit the HSD with a suspension fork but not the GSD? I'm a GSD owner and due to the extremely poor quality roads I'm always wondering how much difference having that suspension fork would have made.

How do you find the automatic shifting when going downhill? Does it always pick up that you're going downhill and shift to the higher gears?

Another great review thanks getting close to pulling trigger

Awesome videos, thank you. I have a Riese & Muller Tinker Nuvinci Vario and love it but it is super heavy. find it hard to balance when riding slowly...I Do mostly city riding in SF with lots of hills and traffic. Test rode the Tern s8i and really enjoyed but the s+ is not available for awhile..can you compare both bikes for me? I didn't mind shifting the s8i and worry the Enviolo automatiq will be too fussy if I'm in traffic and need to climb a hill on demand and won't be ready because I need to change the cadence. At the same time, my Tinker is so easy to ride, I don't think about shifting and enjoy but I do shift. Also is the Tinker and S+ comparable in weight when riding? the s8i felt so light and just loved it. Thanks for your detailed and insightful videos. Really enjoy! Thanks! Barb

Man, if only I can afford this. Sadface

Didn't a gen4 motor come out already?

Nice bike and some really cool features. At $5,200 though, it's way too pricey!

Who edits your writing? (an electric bike that can shift "it scares" automatically), (It’s already been very popular "and" in our shop and the response has been really positive), (the idea of automatic "yours" on a bike), (I anticipate that will "save" many more bikes) Come on, those are rookie mistakes one proof read would have caught, I suggest turning off the spell-check, You'll have much better results without it, or at least read over what you've written before hitting the comment button.

the mileage for that small battery is not accurate that it would get....maybe if you use it on pedal assist it would get closer to there claim but even that way it would not get that range.