Why Do Movies Feel So Different Now?

What a jewel of an essay and video. Thank you !

One example I like is that advertisements don't tend to use product jingles anymore, whereas they were everywhere when I was growing up.

I think millennial or Gen X customers today find them too corny or annoying to genuinely engage with the company or product.

But I have a feeling a similar thing might return as a metamodern reflection of producer honesty, as more young people see a simple jingle as a sincere and genuine attempt at service advertising, thus rendering them a viable alternative to just putting bland pop music over a self referential and/or slick video to sell products.

Man, I am already tired of Metamodern (or is it Hypermodern) movies and art. I don't care what the artist wants me to feel about current real-world events, culture, or politics. I just want to enjoy the medium, get a break from reality, and be entertained. 😂

Awesome video! It mirrors so much of what I think about how postmodernism, in being hyper focused on deconstruction, ultimately just leaves us piles useless parts laying on a table rather than creating something. The specific contents and organization of the pieces on the table constitutes a form of expression and has value, but it isn't the same as a cohesive and coherent idea.

Metamodernism, by contrast moves forward into actually reassembling the pieces into something functional. Some pieces are left visible and have attention drawn to them, or the very act of disassembly and reassembly become foregrounded. But whatever the self aware techniques employed by the creator, Metamodernism seeks to critique postmodernism's failure to really create anything (if anything, postmodern art is hypocritical if it is coherent at all) and transcend it by actually drawing attention back to a specific goal of the artist (which doesn't necessary have to be hopeful, but often is).

I know you will probably never read this comment, but the theories of Robert Kegan (see the books In Over Our Heads and The Evolving Self) on mental complexity strongly reflect what you're seeing with the development of Metamodernism. Kegan himself has equated postmodernism to "fifth order complexity" (systems of systems), but I've always felt that postmodernism, in failing to do anything with the pieces of what it deconstructs, fails to live up to the ideal or meta-systems thinking.

Anyway, if you ever do see this comment, I think you'd enjoy those two books I mentioned above and how rising orders of mental complexity correlate with art.

A great opening disclaimer by Heinrich Boel: Any similarity to actual events or persons is unavoidable

fire the guy who does your subtitles

This is an interesting analysis though it doesn't always gibe with how Modernism and Postmodernism are sometimes viewed as movements. For example, Brecht is usually considered a Modernist playwright, but he very much wanted his audience to be aware they were watching a play and called attention to the artificiality of it.

Top gun was naff in the 80s. Cheesy American macho jock nationalism then. And its still feels the same now. Probably even worse. The only redeeming factor was the visual effects. Naff is naff.

Wes Anderson and heartfelt emotions in the same sentence? Really?

Thais was an amazing video to breakdown the movie industry i love how you guys put it all together!!!!!!

did u fix the color grading on this i have high respect towards that!!! losoks terrible on streaming

I have been saying for a long time now that the reason that action movies are sit today is that none of themselves take themselves seriously anymore. There's always some tongue in cheek wink at the audience that just fucking ruins it. The great action movies had some comedy, but it existed within the context of the movie. Terminator and Aliens BELIEVED in their world and that's what you got- that world. Back to the future was aarguably a comedy but still, it believed in itself. Occasionally we get a modern film that still does- Mad Max Fury Road is probably the best example. Maverick is another. There is no meta winking, they are just stories. Look how Maverick and Fury Road did in sales. There's clearly still a market for it, and the 78th Marver movie might sell tickets, but it will never be an icon or even memorable to most people. Compare that to Mad Max, Top Gun, Alien, Terminator, Predator, John Wick. All iconic, all because they believed in themselves.

god thats a beautiful ending with the spinny cam bring us in

This video it's a peace of art

holy shit

Metamodernism... I like to call it Ex postmodernism, feels more postorganic;-)

I've never been able to put into words why I like recent movies so much more than older movies but this is basically it

What you’re defining as Metamodernism is just a screen version of the theatre productions we made in the mid 90s, could it be that those styles just eventually found their way into the big screen because the students from that period are now in charge?

as far as how it gets when we are constantly deconstructing and making sense of who we really are, the best thing to do is to appreciate the present and try to work on it while also affirming what different experiences and values has taught us in the process to flourish as a better person or to fit better and contributing to the larger society. as a person that grew up in the mechanics of both modernist and post-modern ideas, i tend to switch grounds on what should i believe and suspending my true values that set my authenticity. we got so lost in this process, yet we are patching things up so metamodernism i believe would help us to witness how precious we are in our own selves while we pursue our self-identity.

I appreciate you guys for what your're doing. I don't think that the arbiters of truth would look like a waifish pedophile{get rid of the moustache,) and... dude where do I start with his guest? Jabba/Southpark WOW. I was sent here by David Bryce the composer. I could not be more disappointed. There is a reason why stories have been told the same way over THOUSANDS of years. My postmodernist self will indulge an interesting anti-hero, like Joker. As much as I think these two dudes are smelling their own farts way too much. I will say...and this is a big compliment. I DID NOT HERE ABOUT ONE SUPERHERO MOVIE. 10/10. I will watch more.