The Fall of Coding... is programming dead in 2023?

Honestly I’d like for it to die have you been online recently or how about needed to use software that was originally built into your computer but is now a thousand apps that don’t do what you needed? What are you saying exactly?

that ad was timed with perfect irony

Why do you even care, just live your life, you're finally free from the corp jail!

This is the perfect example of steven hes' dad. "oh you dumb for marrying software engineer, do what timmy does marry the millionare
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As an experienced programmer I have discourage anyone from pursuing a software career. Keep it as a hobby, but don't let it interfere with more worthwhile and stable pursuits. Companies were willing to pay a little more during the Pandemic, and hire more. The result every company was able to increase (some cases double) the number of engineers employed. And when the CEO's because scared interest rates would kill the stock price, they just as quickly fired many of those highly skilled engineers. The same people they still say they can't find enough of, because Zuckerberg and all the other CEO's are bald face liars. Read DOJ vs Facebook 2020 (or a more recent case against Apple). There never has been an engineer shortage in the United States. What happens is that foreign managers prefer to hire workers from back home, who are then indentured by our U.S. Visa laws, to them for decades. This fake demand is never completely recognized by the C-suite (or if it is, it is ignored and squashed). But in DOJ vs Facebook 2020, we learned the truth because you can't lie to Federal Investigators, without risking a 10-year prison sentence. In that indictment, we learned that Facebook finds 30x more highly qualified engineers than it can hire. So many locals are better qualified than foreign workers undergoing Green Card certification, that Facebook has to do a phony Green Card certification for foreign workers and then lie on Federal Forms (lawyers will do this, if the risks are calculated) that they did a good faith effort to find locally qualified engineers for the job currently held by the foreign worker. BTW, if the Foreign worker fails the test, they still keep their job, they can just retry again in 6 months.

Easy for a guy with no kids and no wife to tell people not to work a nine-to-five.

Being sponsored by his own company 🤣

TechLead is a real life Russ Hanneman. 🙌

This is a similar dilemma with people getting PhDs. Everyone knows the market is terrible but they continue to go through with it anyway.

Anyone who's actually used ChatGPT saying that it won't replace programmers is in such denial. Just because it's not always right doesn't mean it's not effective. It's more right than humans are. The only things ChatGPT is bad at are high-level mathematics and physical labor.

The problem is the world of computers reach a level of saturation. This is due to the width of the molecule. Atom is the one holding the secret of all the coming changes, so study the universe and physics if you want to be a hero of that change. Hhhh 😅 just joking

I traveled all around the world as a national athlete and later as a coach. 3D modelling was my hobby and I did it later professional for 6 years reaching management level but worked as a slave in an architectural visualisation company.
Now I don’t want to travel that much and just want to learn coding and making games in Unity using my own 3D models, just as a hobby and for fun.
Instead of wasting my time watching brainless Netflix movies or short web videos, I like the creativity and philosophy of making things works with coding in C#.
I don’t care if worth or not, for me is challenging and cool.

The more I hear coding is falling the more i want to master it

I recon coding is not fallen it's a thriving industry, Knowledge is still power regardless how much money you make. Coding will always be KING in the IT industry..

I am not in software development but in data analytics. 5 years ago Hadoop, Python, Spark and Java were all the rage. Now I am in charge of a Low Code / No Code environment. We have tools that make the need to code obsolete.

BUT understanding the business and how to use data and technology to drive results is a powerful combination.

Ai is making coding too easy. Coders are going away like the assembly line worker when automation came. There will need to be computer programmers, computer scientists, but not coders. Reminds of the trucker mechanic shorts of the 80's and early 90's where salaries for trucker mechanic was hitting $150k/year, then all these bootcamp schools popped up and several years later the salary was $60k/year because the market was saturated with mechanics.

When Ppl think SWE they still imagine ㅡ Musk, Zuckerberg, Bezos... 😂

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As Syndrome said - if everybody is super then no one will be.

If everybody wants to make quick money then no one will be.

what a narrow and americanistic view on being a software developer. in europe it's not uncommon to get 5-6 weeks of paid holidays. paid sick days also not a problem if necessary. after 15+ years in the industry, how many leetcode questions have I done? exactly 0. most of my job interviews have been chill and just focused on my past projects/experience etc. now you could say I did not work for any of the FAANG companies. true. however if you are getting good enough compensation with all the perks you can just chill tfd and enjoy your life.

it is not only coding it is in every tech/science industry right now. Welcome to new great depression

They will always need software engineers. Don’t let this fear monger stop you from doing what you want to do. This guy doesn’t seem to care maybe one of you will take his job.

Bro I think it all depends on what you want to do with the code, for all you guys that code for the status symbol then yeah coding is dead for you.

For all you guys that code for strictly getting a job, you don't care about it beyond that then yea coding is dead for you too.

But for all the people that code for own purposes, independent of what's going on in the world, coding can never die. That's like saying math is dead because calculators can do it for you.

I build trading algorithms using MetaQuotes Language 5 and Python. Coding will never die for me, unless the financial markets die first.

We’re stepping into a world where you’ll need way more reading code than writing it.
Programmers were always optimizing code for reading, but now the ratio is increasing exponentially.
We will need way way way more code reviewers than code writers… But the once that can actually understand what could go wrong with that code!
Every time I read commercial code I’m horrified with things like this:
Perl
sub debug {
system(“echo @_”);
}

I get 6 weeks paid vacation and can work from wherever i want.

That is where we had our honeymoon. Lake Como Villa Sebelonia at the foot of the alps, gardens, etc.

I never got into programming for the money, and couldn't be happier. I got into it because I enjoy it.

absolutely true. coders now are boring and poor people. working all the time to pay bills.

INDEPENDENTS RULE!!!

Man...everyone, their mom and their dog can code now.

Oh, and so can AI!...lol

Sick location!

Software bros gettin' laid off en masse!!!

For some it’s not about making millions, it’s about enjoying what you’re doing. Could you make millions on social media, sure. But making money just for the sake of making money is not fulfilling to a lot of people. Also stop calling it a slave system. Working a 9-5 is nowhere close to slavery. And to act like somehow bc you’re making money online you’re acting outside of capitalism is ridiculous. The engine of capitalism is the real ‘slavery’ and you’re living it just like the rest of us 😉

Someone with deep programming and debugging skills will always do better at any IT jobs, even if not involved with coding.

Methinks TechLead doth protest too much. Seems "successful" but bored.

Glad I left I.T., and USA, while I had the chance. The ship has sailed.

The irony of this guy flexing on vacation and bashing 9-5 jobs and software engineering jobs and then being forced to advertise for them right in the middle of his video is priceless.

From an actual google tech led ->
Coding is not dying. And won’t dying in the next 20 years at least.

Learn to code

Forget the falling of coding.. How about falling of humanity.. at worst case scenario, AI will take over in next 5 years. But definitely by next 10 years. Only thing that can possibly stop is government. But honestly, there is no hope.

I turned coding into pure research needs e.g. simulation, and passionate or better vocational hobby. As official profession I go fpr novelist and essayist... or one that pick up some super-rich beautiful young girls.

Why people that much worry ? We can live without computers like old days ,our food from Backyard,our mail Delivered with Donnky. These all engineers working hard on AI that would be their replacement robots .

How does the data analytics and business intelligence route look?

I really need ideas that don’t involve coding, I can do it, was told in the last course I took last year that. I spent 1500 hours on by an instructor that “no one is going to like me because my code is too good and no one will understand it” and got paid by other students to help them learn it because I had prior experience from studying software applications programming at itt tech , in which the students said they learned more from me than the instructors. But I’m just done with code because I haven’t gotten a single interview ever for it after years of craming it

also all of the cheap bad fiverr developers ruined the market as well lol

dude you promoted a platform about preparing for these jobs and simultaneously criticized these jobs.

Coding is means to the end, creativity is lost, look at computer games , they are less and less creative , companies repeating themselves until nobody is interested, what is important in software industry ? Same stuff as of 20 years ago, real time transactions , embedded computing , UI its didnt changed a bit, but its important that trains and airplanes works, then there a lot of bs in software engineering like big data.
I think maybe people should concentrate on learning programming to solve particular problems or help with maintenance of older systems.

back in the days was more easy to land good jobs and good revenues. ps next time you come to Como lake hmu :) I live nearby

Influencers...!! What do they bring fr??smh

Computer engineers always wanted a computer that could program itself after receiving verbal parameters as to what the program is supposed to be about.

1. Coding is perceived as less cool or impressive than before.
2. There's a belief that coding is dying.
3. Remote work is often not allowed in many tech companies.
4. Software engineering is no longer at the top of the corporate food chain.
5. There's a growing trend of alternative careers beyond the 9-to-5 system.
6. Coding is seen as a slow way to make money compared to other opportunities.
7. The market for tech jobs is described as brutal, with layoffs and challenges.

If coding is dying the you burry me in the same grave with it coz it's my heart and my talent too
Long live the passionate programmers ❤❤