What is the tragedy of the commons? - Nicholas Amendolare

Private ownership of the means of production is the most effective preventive of the tragedy of the commons

This is a stellar piece; akin to a book that was stellar in its insight. "Game Theory and the Pursuit of Algorithmic Fairness" by Author Name

Well this sounds like communism,
but we all know how bad things can be with just political stuff, right? 😄

Advanced non-military technology is a very potential hope for human kind,
but it seems like human kind is messed up pretty bad already, fixing things with the human kind is quite a big big problem...
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Globalist propaganda

Who else stopped at all the presuppositions? Geeezuzzz

But some guys do have another lake. They take fishes in the common lake. They put them into their lake. They produce, they sell their fishes to other poor mans. They create demand and produce supply. They both causes poverty and take adventage of it. So, I dont believe that burjuvas share tragedy of commons with us. So these agendas are for persuade us, peoples. It doesn't effect burjuvas, they dont gaf. First, companies should take more crucial actions, then people will.

Making a video about the tragedy of the commons and not mentioning property rights even once is quite telling. Nevermind that empirically speaking, privatisation is the only effective solution to this problem. Governments that have tried other routs always ended up being the biggest polluters (the Soviet Union being a primary example).

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I think the world would be a better place if we criminalize the pursuit of profit at all cost, aka capitalism. all shape of it.

Note: Garrett Hardin was an ecologist, but he was also a white nationalist, who especially hated Latino and Muslim immigrants. He used his ideas about ecology to argue that more immigrants would ruin the US for white ppl.

What is the tragedy of the common on this video?

This sounds like communism for dummies

overpopulation is a myth. stop spreading that propaganda. there is more than enough space, food, and water for us all. it is another cop out to identifying the problems with capitalism like food waste, privatization of water, corporate greed, homelessness, etc etc. we even have more than enough homes to give houseless people homes so many times over. nonsense

Thanos solution

The solution is obviously to get rid of the other fishermen... No but seriously population control is no longer up for debate. It needs to happen one way or another. Culturally, we need to make it taboo for each individual to have more than 2 children. Between those that ignore the taboo and those that have fewer than 2 and other edge cases, the numbers would even out. If the population were to gradually shrink to pre-historic numbers (under 10 million), our burden on the ecosystem would be negligible. I'm not condoning any kind of inhuman methods for controlling procreation. Don't worry, I've seen What Happened To Monday and I know all about the folly of China's attempt at population control. But the ideology itself must take root in each person or we are doomed.

Are we the baddies?

Problem is the conscious individuals in the Western industrialized nations, listened to this over populated BS and did not have children, or not near as many. Now those countries are threatened with a horrible demographics curve. The "scientist" should have warned certain countries like India of repercussions of over population and instead of controlling and scarring people should have done more neutral research on the terrible consequences of huge population age shifts.

The "tragedy ofthe commons" describes what corporations do in a capitalist system. It does not accurately describe what people do in more pro-social contexts.

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There is more to the history of the phrase Tragedy of the Commons. I need to find out more but I heard the solution to the Tragedy of the Commons was to blame and oppress common people.

If you think about it TOC situations are all very common in all civilisations, not least applying to the air we breath...
Reminds me of the story of the priest who one year asked all the local farmers to each empty a bottle of their
wine into a barrel for the church services, the communion began and the first to sip the wine was unpleasantly surprised to
be drinking... pure water! ... G.H. told some inconvenient truths - TOC that demands socialist principles to solve,
his "no technological solution" theory dismissed by many of our leaders and his controversial "lifeboat theory"
that resulted in him being unfairly criticised for all his ideas.

Of course your solution to this is to use threats of violence, i.e., government.

Anyone who thinks government doesn’t act in its own interests for its own gain over shared resources is fooling themselves. They create limited liability “laws” to shield preferred corporate donors. They pick and choose who has “license” to use all sorts of common resources like broadcast bandwidth, grazing lands, waterways, and gas and oil drilling just to name a few.

Maybe you should do a video on Public Choice and learn that the problems with government regulating things are just swapping one set of problems for another.

Imagine with me living in syria.... each fish is taken by one guy .. which is baschaar al'assad
This is our life in syria
Pray for us...

Everyone who liked this should alsk read: Ostrom, E. (2007). A diagnostic approach for going beyond panaceas. PNAS, 104(39): 15181-15187.

I always heard this with cows feeding on a common lot of grass, this analogy with fish doesn't make sense because that's not how fish breed. The lady fish lays like a thousand eggs and then a guy fish just squirts his load on it and then you have a ton more fish. Also obviously fish don't grow immediately. You have to balance how many fish you're taking out of the system at any given point based off of the current population of fish, which would make sense as an analogy but doesn't require re-characterizing how fish breed and grow like you've done here.

We’re all screwed. Avocado toast lovers don’t even know how long it takes to grow a tree that produces avocados that are edible. This planet is wrecked and the majority seem to ignore science. Overpopulation will actually end this species. Rough.

Why are you not giving credit to Elinor Ostrom? Should she receive credit for this research?

Too many occurrences of Tragedy of the commons in society today. We all need to communicate and understand each other better so we can resolve the bigger issues of the world. Amen

I wish white people could understand this.

yay communism lmfao

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That lonesome fish swimming in the broken-hearted moonlight had me crying in the library stacks, headphones on

Seems to me the greatest "tragedy of the commons" threat these days is the US federal government, which has orchestrated the greatest transfer of wealth in history from the working class to the non-working government class. They get rich, we get poor. Their profit, our loss

Great video, and I think my problem with the "tragedy of the commons" discourse (and would have been worth mentioning in this video) is that it's often talked about as an essential component of human nature and used as a pretext for the "need" for privatization, because all those greedy commoners can't be trusted to cooperate with one another. Which leads to an ELIMINATION of the concept of the commons altogether. I also have trouble equating externalities like antibiotic resistance and CO2 pollution with the over-harvest/over-grazing examples that typify TotC.

Well Explained !

The conclusion 100% misses the point.

nooooo sad fishies 😢 💔

Thank you, Addison!

Fun fact: If we didn’t solve this problem aeons ago, we wouldn’t have survived to discover fire. There are commons all over the world; some mere centuries old, others millennia old. We know how to maintain them without removing them from common ownership.

Gee, it’s as though modern society is venal and corrupt; literally incentivizing the most powerful members of our society to do unspeakably antisocial things that are detrimental to the entire Human Species. We should totally do something about how we organize society, shouldn’t we?

Harding, you see was a neo-Malthusian social Darwinist who promoted this misanthropic narrative in an attempt to justify the power of the plutocratic elite; similarly to how royalists tried to justify the power of aristocracy and royalty before.

I tried to keep this civil. If I came over as a little bit cranky, witnessing the genocide of Our Species in progress will do that to you.

So basically why capitalism is bad in simple terms?

This is why cooperation managing common resources matters.

If only the elite would play by the same rule!

Indigenous people have held and cultivated commons since humans have been around. There is no tragedy of the commons, it’s just state and capitalism that gets in the way of the collective good by putting more power in the hands of the few at the expense of everyone else, especially capitalism which alienates people from each other and negates cooperative good

It's a thoroughly debunked concept, based on the wrong assumption that people are only able to act in self interest, which can bring to counterproductive conclusions like the privatisation of common property. The problem is not that common property is common. The problem is that common property is managed by private corporations who are motivated by short term profit and not by the common good. Please, anyone who's interest on this matter should read Elinor Ostrom's nobel prize work.

Deyymmm i watched this video i dont know when 😂 are you freakin kidding me 😂 how is that even possible 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I wasn't expecting my biology assignment to turn into a presentation about the problem with capitalism.

too much of a good thing is bad! everything in moderation essentially