Reset Mechanics: The Abilities That Destroy Balance | League of Legends

I think they're fine, especially viego's reset (I play viego)

Fiddle w also has a reset if it fully channels but again it means he mustnt get cc'd for like 5 seconds and only then its like 60% reduction

I totally see the critics of that, but i would add, that (some) champions have to struggle with other issues althought they have such powerful reset abilities. Pyke for example has a very weak mid- and lategame and cannot gain any health during the game and Vex does have lower range than other mages (so she has to go in completely (especially with r and w)) and moreover she only has one hard cc which has a high cooldown especially in the early game.

that gwen pic makes me laugh because GWEN IS IMMUNE

on ryze it's balanced because 1 it takes skill 2 ryze is very weak early

This game is bad and broken

To be fair, I expected that you would flame us katarina players more in this video. But you went pretty easy on us.

In Smite, Achilles is a fighter-type character with a reset mechanic on his Ultimate, a dash with an execute. If HE kills with it, he gets a temporary recast AND a debuff on himself that gives him a % damage increase on himself that stacks. It’s highly conditional and the more resets he uses, the more risk that he’ll die.

I like this mechanic because the resets are put on champs that if they are behind, they are weak. For example, the reset makes samira more likely to take a risk for a kill to get the reset, and if she fails she will become very weak. Without resets, those champs could get to play a hypercarry style until they can kill you guaranteed. But for samira, she HAS to risk, and HAS to win the risk to be powerfull. This kind of reset would be bad on someone like yone or irelia coz they dont care about being behind (i dont count irelia q as reset, she cant q someone unmarked more than once)

I watched for 3min
Boring video😂😂💀

When i play irelia i just int useally. I would say that she is like yasou. Alot strongee when there are minions around, and useless without

Viogo is so disgusting becouse he gets the reset and 1-3 seconds of untargetability between every jump

But for example katarina without her resets would be useless asf

comparing Darius r to viego? guillotine does over 1k true damage heartbreak does 500 if you are fed

Reset slayers are the reason I run crit pantheon, downtime doesnt matter nor the infinite dashes, just one empowered W to Q.

I think this also applies for buff resets. Vayne R, Yi R and even ghost, it becomes so much harder to deal with them when they can just get a kill on someone else and run you down too.

Skill resets and restricted resets are good but the rest are bad

Riot: Makes katarina to be a unique champion as a reseting assassin. also riot: makes 20 more later on

one example that will forever piss me off is that for a reset of his extremely powerful ult pyke just needs to be able to click on someone, but for rengar to get a bit more ad his assist window is less than 2 damn seconds AND his ult is like twice as long cd as pyke WITHOUT a reset.

I will never forget how my team was doing pretty well in ARAM and if it weren't for the enemy Pyke who got a pentalkill by ulting on all of us when we were on route for the nexus, we might have won. Alas, we could only watch as the rest of Pyke's team respawned and they destroyed our turrets and our nexus, because we were on long respawn cooldowns. Pain.

I would be OK if reset ability gets 60% value first cast, 120% second cast so on, but normally the reset ability have so high ratio/number that one cast is already equal to other champions. The same why I think resourceless champ (other than garen maybe, because for learning) shouldn't have sustain, as other champs are gated by mana, they already have better sustain by not having resource, doesn't make sense to give them more sustain. It's not like resourceless champs have low ratio/numbers either.

vars: "but only now are people realizing the extent to which it can break balance."

me: having flashbacks to Darius at release

katarina

To me Viego's dmaage makes absolutely no sense to me... the ult does a ridiculous amount of damage and it reminds me of a Pyke ult resetting + BECOMMING INVULNARABLE BETWEEN CASTS !??!?!?!?!

Me and the boys queueing
Pyke Samira Akshan Viego Irelia

u sound like a darius otp ngl

I liked the Lux's R reset so much even tho I don't play her !
I still feel like she's gonna reset out of kills when I see her using it

Everybody knows how it goes when belveth gets that one kill…

To be fair, Vex ult is not broken. She does get a reset but it's a skillshot which is of course not easy to land. And even if she lands it, Her passive has to be up to fear the enemy. It's a high risk high reward play.

Viego, on the other hand, I completely agree. Not only the ult cooldown is completely reset when he gets a takedown, by taking over enemy champion's body, he can keep on casting abelites without any consequences related to cooldown. Granted, you need to know how to play that enemy champion, but if you do, it's ridiculous. Also, invulnerability during possession, allowing access of items of enemy champions (Which literally means Viego can punish you for doing well)..... I don't know who in Rito thought creating this abomination of a champion was a good idea.

Remember
Blitz W SLOW HIM DOWN

I miss the time when we only had to play around Kat's reset to win the game :(

I dont think Vex is a burst mage, I think she is closer to a battle mage, Short range and low cool downs, also her reset is a narrow skill shot, its very possible to miss it altogether.

though i like the video i must say as a pyke main there's no better feeling than just chain chain chaining those ults together. if you can get 3, 4, or god forbid even 5 low health enemies near each other the sheer rush of dopamine i get as i fly from corpse to corpse is indescribable. i dont care if its balanced i dont care who's having fun. the moment that health bar turns red there's one thing on my mind and its to execute.

Vars: "Every champion gets countered by crowd control" Olaf: Am I a joke to you?

Lol

fizz counter point zonzas. you have to wait two combos to kill him

resets are also just so much more unfair in low elo/solo queue... if you don't have good coordination or have a teammate who is trolling a bit, suddenly the reset champions have a way to fully stack conqueror and still have all abilities ready by just catching out your weakest teammate

as someone who play viego his ult when in a other champion form should only change himback

Anyone else here remember AP Master YI from the first couple seasons? And his full reset on alpha if he got a kill?

Wholeheartedly I think resets can be hit or miss but there’s also this huge issue with items and how they interact with a lot of these abilities. (Looking at you navori and that other one for ults) like. Items like shieldbow and frozen fist provide so much durability and sustain for some characters like. Viego with a shieldbow is potentially immortal due to the amount of sustain he has which can lead to him peeing all over somebody’s team. Chogath has this issue too but ppl don’t play him enough to rlly worry about it until he becomes so much Of a problem only a three item vayne can deal with him. It’s brazy

Balanced because there's alot of power is in those abilities and if they can't hit the requirement because there behind then there practically useless. I think stuff like kai sa W reset and Zac is a lot more busted but people never really see it as much. Zac practically has a warmogs in his W and Kai sa can 2 shot with AP build before it got nerfed. They only resets people hate are the ones on kills because those people are already ahead and there kits mean they can chain kills much easier.

Playing in low diamond gave me some much needed perspective about champions like irelia, riven, fiora, yone etc. At first they are extremely anxious to deal with but once I started playing outrageous shit like gragas and kennen top, I began to realize just how terrible a lot of these players actually are. It's almost like these kits just artificially boost their win rate but the second they play into a character they cant mindless q spam into, it all comes apart. A good 90 percent of them play like they don't have minimap on its actually embarrasing. On the occasion where you find a player that actually knows what they are doing its actually quite an interesting match up, but I know if I was playing any run of the mill bruiser I would have been screwed.

I hate resets on kills because it basically punsihes me for my teammates mispositioning or misplaying to a champion like Kata/Pyke who can steamroll an entire team off of 1 person's mistake, if someone mispositions to a regular champ, he may die, but at least he made the enemy player use some cd in most cases and he is the only one directly punished for dying, while giving kata a free kill results in a storm of blinks that obliterates everything in AoE.

This is why Gardevoir is in her best place since release right now, AND why Lucario has been top tier since launch!

A lot of the resets complained about here are based on champions dying, wouldn't that give better priority to champions that defy death or perhaps healers? The roster is big enough to have answers in champion select.

I thought this video was on like how these abilities can negate spells lol, like yones spirit can cancel a sleep same with when Viego ults.

Viego does have restrictions on his reset mechanics, first of all the enemy champion has to have been damaged by him atleast 3 seconds prior to his death and the other part is that you have to wait 1.5 seconds before you can even use your ult reset compared to all other kill reset champs. Which means the moment viego turns into the feeding enemy champion with all the restrictions he receives while in a soul he can get blown up quite easily in that 1.5 seconds because yes he is untargetable while taking a soul, but he also can't move at all. He can easily be outplayed because of how trash is kit is compared to his passive

nobody talking about Katarina lol