Narcissism or Narcissistic Personality Disorder?

I found this conversation interesting, yet cavalier. Somewhat dehumanizing to the diagnosed.

“NPD is the second hand smoke of psychiatry ….Narcissism is the second hand smoke of our time…you stand close enough to it you’re going to get sick”🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

All of the features of narcissism apply to addicts/alcoholics as well. I don't think all addicts have narcissistic disorder, however. These features we call defects of character and the 12 steps are designed to curb our defects.

I don’t agree with what she’s saying. She’s basically saying a person is just a “jerk” and can’t have a personality disorder if they say nothing is wrong with them. Many narcissist aren’t even self aware. They’re unlikely to think anything is wrong with them.

I'm doing better mentally since I discovered and learned about what a narcissist is and does to people. I am surrounded by narcissists in my life right now and I realized this is probably why I have been struggling for so long! I haven't gotten rid of any of the narcissists in my life yet but am carefully now using then to get as much out of them as possible! I know all of the head games they play and I am treading carefully so they still think they are in control of me. Now that I understand it's not me I am confidant I can make things better for myself and then be free from their bullshit once and for all

I wonder how many narcissists get murdered every year?

Whenever you are being lovebombed with “are you going to marry me” right off the bat, “are you going to be good to me” during lovemaking, “are you going to take good care of me” months into the relationship RUN and never ever look back. These dbags are master manipulators and all they do is for themselves and once they think you’re onto them, you’ll be tossed to the curb quicker than you can blink an eye. Another clue you are with someone with full blown NPD is when they say my ex never did xyz. They have already moved on and onto their next source of supply at that point or they are thinking of it. Have strength, honor yourself and have some self esteem and run so fast and never look back. You can treat bipolar and even schizophrenia but NPD cannot and will never be cured - 💪🏻

I was in a situation where almost everyone was diagnosed with narcissism playing out on a spectrum. It infuriated me bc I Don’t fit the profile but was firmly told I do. When you’re a patient you’re often subjugated. Psychiatrist’s acting omniscient when they can’t Prove Anything. Psychiatry I now feel, is utter bullshit. I had 1 guy say “I can’t determine whether you should be on 1 medication so I’m going to put you on 3 different meds and take your current med away”. So I said how can you determine I should be on 3 heavy psych meds in 30 mins and he wrote me up as a difficult patient. Such bullshit. That stays in my record forever! Don’t put ur faith in that institution and get guinea pigged until a med sticks. That’s their mandate. To medicate.

We need to teach this to a lot of students nowadays!!

OMG!

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what about the narcissistic traits but not NPD????!!!!

nice bo*bs

So little is always said about vulnerable /humble narsacism. Very respected, liked, adored, worshipped narcs who has chiseled out great reputations for them mostly sincerely but there is some insincerity in many moments aswell. Good parent and partner and Christian but a trigger usually feeling shamed makes them switch to robot mode. Cold, disconnected, in the beginning mean and spiteful but grown to be more aware and just in robot mode now when switched, still mimicking or still choosing love and thoughtfulness...but being like a robot empty somehow. But trying. Though many times still have silent rage and contempt and criticism towards the object of hostility. Very negative and mostly a victim. Biggest problem probably being nagging and silent tantrums....
No one in world will believe you except those that has experienced the cold weird disconnect switch and silent rage themselves.....but outstanding member of society and truly loved by many who get their best side.

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I'm a very friendly and empathetic person generally. I tend to initiate talk and help people. But my marriage was a proposed one, and despite my initial rejections, it was done. I can't relate to him. He's not a good talker, does not wear nicely and they're in a way lower to my original social strata. For these reason I have this sort of dislike. I don't like going out with him, he doesn't know what to say, wears so cheaply and we don't share middle grounds. Yesterday, my mom called me and in a way accused that I'm putting myself first, meaning that I rarely go out. With that I think I'm a narcissist, but I don't know. I feel if I found a person I really liked I could have been way more flexible and loving. I'm so confused.

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It's incredibly misleading to say that NPD or any PD cannot be diagnosed if they're not causing discomfort to the person with it: one of the most common characteristics of any PD is that it is ego syntonic, which means that the person doesn't feel like these aspects perceived as negative by non-narcissists are a problem at all to them. This is in contrast to ego dystonic syndromes, like mood disorders and anxiety disorders, where the person typically feels that the symptoms are alien to who they are, that they do not identify with their symptoms, and are perceived as being pathological, with the individual wishing they could be rid of these symptoms.

Bo Prairie

ok good - i don't this ! thank god. i'm just a straight psycho

Meghan Markle is a combo of all of the 5! Scary !!

I like what she has to say most of the time. Although she really likes to demonize people with NPD. Some people with NPD could be motivated for change and that’s huge. We should be taking a more compassionate perspective with people w NPD if we truly want to facilitate growth and healing.

I just remebered something and wanted to pass it on to see if it a narcicistic trait. My husband would not allow me to cry. He obviously couldnt stop me but it bothered so much that i did not even realize that i shut it off within me for 10 years. I did not cry for 10 years. Is that part of it?

narcissists are FUUUN as long as you recognize them as such and keep it superficial- use them for partying and parties 🎈

lol but they don’t get help😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

so you said that narcs could have depression like the character in poh doesn't depression include bouts of crying for at least 3 days every week
which last more than a month,
i get that narcs are humans and have feelings and there could be up and down their lives but having depression with intense feelings and feeling self worthless doesn't click as real. or is it that they make the therapist think it's depression?
i find the capacity for them to say harsh words and act as nothing happened even after seeing the damage they have done is alarming
and the tend to lash at people when they are upset as if they are getting rid of negativity by passing them to you , and they're fine afterwards and you are not

After I recovered from COVID 19 in Aug of 2022, I felt different. I felt more. Until then I didn't realize that I had strong narcissistic tendencies. Toward the years leading up to it, I was aware of my inability to feel for others but couldn't do anything to change it. Awareness of it can't fix it since it's a feeling, or lack there of. Very strange that COVID gave me more feelings, and a sense of security. I was insecure, and felt the need for others approval and acceptance which I did not get. I burned many bridges but since 2022 I have been able to build deep(er) relationships.

Truly excellent information, thank you for sharing.

I'm... Not sure that NPD, or any diagnosis, should require a person is individually inconvenienced. Like its all brain stuff, chemicals and what not, yeah? So two people with radically different lives could have it with radically different levels of inconvience, if any at all. Objectivity vs subjectivity.

Hasn’t anyone ever noticed that the world is probably 95% or greater narcissists? From this woman’s definitions and explanations, I would say every single human being is a narcissist

Honestly narcissistic tendencies does not make a narcissist. I'm getting really tired of this generalisation. People can develop unhealthy coping mechanisms or manipulative behaviour or need validation etc. without being a narcissist . And I actually feel deeply sorry for real narcissists, I find it painful to watch this bashing of these people who have such huge wounds in them. Like as if they're super evil villains.

Yep PROJECTING SMH

Me and my family are all narcissists I didn’t know this

Sad but true

Beyond ignorant

I love Dr. Ramani! She has been so helpful. 🩷

I know two people that has it, the first one was my X Boyfriend Cary Linder ,he was a mile one , i didn't know why he treated me so bad ,he youst to be in the mirror acted like he is directing the choir

The one, his name was Albert Rounds, he was a toxic narcissist, he treated me so nasty like i was his whore, and use me for money, like i was a Bank! The first one was bisexual he like me but he done more for his men friends than me, the second one was a registered sex offender Prison mental

When i first med Albert , i met him through a friend, but i didn't know he was that way when it was to late

I met him back in 2010, i bustes up with him i 2018, and i glad that i did

Mi met Cary Linder back in 1982, i broke up from him in1988

That Fits Albert to a Tee!

I know more than dr ramani about narcissism and she has a doctorate. Takes sam vaknins test about narcissism

SMKj pls check this out… u need a way out Ang get treatment….and u do not wanna to be a jerk even your heart is as cold as ice.

Why most are men with Narcissism? 😢 im described here and i feel like committing suicide because I didn't choose to be like that. 😢😢😢 if it cannot be something changed i really feel like a curse. Very disappointing because i was just a child and went through some experiences then now im called a narcissist. 😢😢😢😢