The Greatest Hi-Fi Secret: Correct Speaker Positioning

Whether the title is true, that's not the point. The point is--to get as many viewers as possible.

Supposedly another secret to speaker position is to have your speakers .83 distance apart from each other from the distance the speaker is to your ear, so if your speakers are 7 feet apart then they should be 8 feet 5 inches away from your ear.

do you need to leave a break between every word ? Lol

Nice BS Rob says. 😂😂😂 Firstly there are laws of physics. And when you move one speaker from right to left or opposite it change the bass reproduction because of SBIR (mostly in region between 50 and 300Hz). So all your work from step two is lost again.

Hahaha you're completely on point with the head tilting and Jennifer's voice 😂

My living room have horrendous measurements, and i cannot get an optional listening position.. the soundstage moves, and often it sounds that the lead vocal isn't centered where it's supposed to, even when listening to digital..

But in my dad's livingroom back in the day, there was perfect lock, as the loudspeaker would be in the middle of the room far away from walls, as were the listening position, the entire room which was huge was completely dedicated to this listening triangle.

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Seriously, talk to 101 audio professionals about speaker placement, you’ll likely get 101 opposing opinions.

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I would have thought that would be the first major thing, I wouldn't spend all that money just to plonk the speakers any place or angle, strangely enough I had installed a second system in the bedroom today & it was crap until I micro adjusted the speakers. Within 20 minutes it set up perfectly.

Getting the speakers tweeter to or very near ear height eliminates the need to tilt the speaker. Also, if you have a MTM speaker avoid tiling the speaker.

And of course…
Synergy
Room acoustics
They say speakers before sources
But what they mean there is synergy which in part is matching sound signatures which is not budget, but dynamics, range, PRAT, tonality.
So an ongoing set of research, experience, matching in any sequence you and your budget and interest level allows you. But you know all these already…

It's way easier to find the low frequency sweet spot in your room. Just put speaker in the corner to wake room modes. Then move back and forth in the room when you find that most balanced spot. There is your listening position, boom

your mannerism is annoying

oh-oh dont let the cat out of the bag

Stop looking up, your video lights are irritating...

Great video, but Rob Wasserman duos is avialble nowhere.

Did you actually use this method or are you just regurgitating something you read online?

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Since I watch your content my sound quality has improved dramatically. It went from so-so to incredible, amazing!! Again this time: just lifting the front of the speakers a tiny bit makes a HUGE difference. Also I never thought of towing in a-symmetrically, again a matter of a tiny bit makes a big difference. Thank you!!

Chingon!!! Thx!!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻

This guy is clueless pretending to be an expert. Its painful how ignorant this guy is. He just looks things up and regurgitates but his lack of actual experience comes thru every time.

There is a serious problem to this approach, bass. If your room is too small, the long wall will leave horrible results with lower frequencies. Bass sound waves are large and need distance to be produce correctly. This method is only good in large rooms unless you don't care about bass. Now the long wall will do soundstage very nicely, but when you don't have the correct bass, is just doesn't impress. The solution to this is to have 2 subwoofers one in each front corner. That will give the bass sound wave enough distance to be fully realized.

Excelent

Really interesting conept. Something is bothering me with alot of those setup guides, that do some perfectly calculated distances and stuff in that they build it around one fixed listening position. But that to me is kind of just as unnatural as a low height in soundstage. Maybe there are some weird ''old school'' people sitting quietly in their chair and dont move and if it works for them, good but to me music is about emotions and emotions move just like that. Maybe i wanna stand up and dance or jump around my room because i m happy or maybe a friend is on visit to listen together and he is obviously not sitting on my lap to enjoy that perfect listening position, maybe i wanna clean my room meanwhile or sit at my desk working. I think music should sound good no matter where you are in the room. Based on math, my perfect listening position would be a right in the middle of my room almost...who is gonna sit in the middle of their room? thats usually where people walk.

( Sorry my English ). We receive sound from oposite ears. Therefore I send / spread sound in oposite directions, turning right speaker 45 degrees righ, and left speaker 45 degrees left. From : l. l. ( Paralel ) to ->. / \. ( Wide directional speakers ).
2 Speakers ( right left ) sendind sound to same direction ? I don't think so. 2 ears in my forehead, 2 ears in my back, 2 ears together ? I don't think so !
.I would use speakers in total oposite direction :. < --. -->. as long as there is no wall behind speakers. With speakers in total oposite direction, sound makes a Sphere, so, no need of intermediate speakers : no front no back speaker, just left ( to left ) and right ( to righ ). Now, right speaker doesn't screw left speaker .
I treat sound as if it is " light ". No pointed sound to my face ( I don't want to know the source of sound ). I can hear from the source and all along the way to infinite instead pointing sound to my face. I call it : Organic Extra Stereo Surround Sound 2.0
Sound flows from 1 speaker in all directions ( semisphere ). Space between Speakers is required to avoid " messing point " and " Sense of Source ".
With wide directional speakers right + left doesn' t exist animore. No conflict zone, pure left, pure right.
Pointing a lamp straight to me, I see 1 point of light ( quantity 1 ). Pointing a lamp to my right, I will see a flux of light from lamp and all over the way to infinite ( quantity " a lot " ). It works with sound in the same way.

With my dinning room speakers positioning isnt a issue as they have 110 degree horizontal and 80 degree vertical coverage

How can I tell which the highest quality low frequency is? Any hint on what should I listen to? I am newbie to this. Thank you.

Bravo

My situation prompted me to tilt my new speakers forward/downward, that makes the "Lock" I suppose, when that happens, I can walk all over the house and room and the music is full and space/air filling, as if the air on entire level of the floor get energized by music, amazing when it happens, but really need a lot of patience, I have 3 subs in the mix too, that complicated things a lot.

Key: Trial and Error.

Remember that the humidity also effect the sound.
You also have to have audiophile hearing. ( thats the ability to hear the differens between different speaker cables)
And no wax in the ears!

Hello! I think Bob's method is quite good and it was a game changer to me. Now i have different distances in both speakers and it sounds really good but....How do i get that dead center image that when i move my head it stays in the midle?! Should i increase the distance to the rear wall? side wall? Should i reduce the toe in??? grrrrrrrr
:))) thanks

Why don't you mention speaker distance from side walls?

Hi,
I am writing from Johannesburg South Africa.
I have tried to set up my speakers with the Master Set system and so far have spent about 45 minutes trying to do so. I am using B&W 685 S2 speakers and a Rotel RA05ED amplifier [40 W]. My listening area is a room, 6m wide by 4.5 m deep joined to a dining room, 6m wide by 3.5m deep separated only in part by a 2.5m wall behind the listening position. I am finding it a little bit complicated and have a few questions I hope you are willing to answer:
1. Is my room too big for the system to work? In other words, will my speakers and amplifier have enough power and a movement to do the job?
2. Is there a way to objectively hear somehow what I am listening for in the base? For example if I listened to the song on Apple AirPods on Apple Music with the EQ set on a particular setting, for example Bass Booster, would that give me an idea of the correct song?
4. Does it help to turn the treble knob on the amplifier down while listening for the base or will that mess things up?
5. My room has a glass sliding door to one side and an ordinary door on the other. Should they be closed, open or is it immaterial?
6. Finally, I have a glass table that must stay in the room. Should it be left uncovered while doing the set up?
Thank you so much?

Why is it that none of you alleged audiophiles ever mention that the contour of human ears is arranged at about a 150 degree configuration? Why wouild companys like JBL recommend putting speakers in an equilateral( 60 degree ) configuration? I have my Def 45's arranged that way( 150) as I find it the only way( besides HPhones) to get full stereo dynamics-- imqging.

THIEL + spica speakers were slanted

Or just buy a Behringer deq2496 + microphone

Close to wall as possible...or 30 feet into room

No...terrible video, terrible grammar, full of bs...
If you set your room up properly then it is NOT always changing.

I was watching the Bob Robbins YT video yesterday and now this video was recommended to me by the YT gremlins. I thank both of you guys for sharing this info. The process makes great sense to me. I'm going to work with the concepts and see what I can do in my limited space here. But...NOW...I have a process.

bonjour ! possible in french subtitle ? in France we dont have a chanel like this . snif ....

Thanks for the video. So for steps 2 and 3 it is better to set the amplifier to mono? I can also set it that both speakers play the left or right channel. Is that even better?

I am wondering, is it maybe a better solution to have just single bass speaker, to avoid mismatching between two of them?

Yeees!!! What you say about the feeling when the speakers have the perfect position is absolutely true. Most people are not changig the positions and are not playing with the positioning. They will never have the experience listening to a real nearly perfect sound. When I say: My sound is terrible at the moment, they say: I think your sound is amazing! - Sometimes this drives me crazy (-: Did they ever heard a real live drum on a snare in real life? It hits you like a schoot from a gun in your ears! Did they ever had this sound experince at home? If not, go change the speaker positioning a 1000 times until you hear it! And then never again buy new equipment for a single cent and never ever change anything in your system, buy music then.

It is a pity that everything follows and does not use diagrams and examples, it would be easier to understand him. She has everything in her head, but it is not easy to transfer her context to our context.

Hi. We need some comments on placing the sound-equipment between the speakers. Do affect the soundstage significantly if the rack is wide and tall. Lots of metal-boxes making a wall and creating unwanted reflections. Any comments from Bob Robbins or Anadialog on this, because it's the common way to place your amps and other stuff.

Fantastico I will definitely give it a try once again thank you so much

I love watching your videos! I feel like we are just hanging out! Having fun and talking hifi common sense.

We're chasing the unicorn at this point. I get it, there's a 'sweet' spot for people but this is the kind of shit audiophiles get meme'd for. Just enjoy your music...

Interesting, though not having read the pamphlet I would have thought that seat position and relative height of ears to the speaker (tweeter specifically?) would also be of importance - going to definely look at the tilt as maybe that addresses this 'relative height' factor in some way.
Also, I find I can make a huge improvement just by moving my chair/sofa back or forth (if I moved the speakers then the bass/wall relationship would be affected I guess) - even a cushion behind my head can transform the sound (I even found myself reaching forward to feel the face of the singer on one occasion!).

Listening to only one speaker for testing power cables ar
e also the best way to compare power cables. Have you done a video on Powercables?

To me it made perfectly sensibility too