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Yeah this game is weird
ОтветитьBut then you realize that by the time you built enough tactical bombers, the UK ai has already put all 10k of their fighters in the channel
ОтветитьI build light cruisers (soft attack 30) and IT'S REALLY GOOD
TNX MR.PARADOX
Sadly enough, considering the amount of planes, this is actually way more historically accurate than you might think.
Although that doesn't mean that it's good gameplay.
Arent naval bombers better?
ОтветитьSo that's how make Sea Lion go true
Ответитьi hope they give us a counter to this someday thats not , don't use navy
ОтветитьIsint naval bombers better?
ОтветитьI love the idea of the sun being blacked out by bombers
ОтветитьItaly: Sends 1 patrol boat out to the English channel
Royal Navy: Let me introduce the entire Home Fleet
Italy: let me introduce 2000 full on bombers, making the sky look like something out of an asteroid/meteor storm and bringing down your every ship
And this is why I play Australia in MP games.....
Building nothing but Heavy Fighters, and Tac Bombers to shit all over Japan and Germany.....
Ah...good to see I was right all along with Tacs being stupidly good.
попробуй эту же стратегию в 43, когда у всех кораблей будет ПВО
ОтветитьBasically why navies cannot operate without air cover. Quite sure this was a meme video, but no way those destroyers can dominate further out in the Pacific or Atlantic without capitol ships.
Naval bombing is just an effective solution in coastal regions.
How do you moderate hindsight? Almost everyone playing KNOWS that Naval Air is the future.
ОтветитьAs our God, Dan Lind intended
ОтветитьIt’s cringe that this works as well as it does
Ответитьoh no
Ответитьwhy not naval bombers? im confused. they are cheaper and stronger right? just less range?
ОтветитьWait it's illegal
Ответитьall this is BS.
ОтветитьWhy tac bombers over naval bombers ?
ОтветитьThey just need to limit the number of NAVs into naval combat based on the size of the battle. Ez
ОтветитьWait…
This actually worked lol they got absolutely destroyed and then I just naval invaded Uk in 1940 lol you legend
I feel like they should limit naval bases size, like you are not supposed to base the entire royal navy out of the ceylon or narvik. Limiting those also limits those death stacks around in the pacific
ОтветитьOr you can spam a bunch of low production trash subs into the ocean
ОтветитьWhat about the torpedo bombers?
ОтветитьDoes anti-air actually do something when put on ships? Can't really tell if they work or not
Ответитьso TACS are better at naval bombing than naval bombers?
ОтветитьNever played multiplayer in this game. But apparently I follow the meta closely. Still love big boats with even bigger guns though, so I use jet fighters relentlessly. Good thing I mod the game to give Venezuela enough oil to run it all... It also isn't far from the truth. The only thing wrong with Hoi4 in this context is that a submarine with snorkel should be nigh invisible to any and all planes. But if I dare place subs on an area I don't control the air, they sink like concrete.
ОтветитьThem you meat the one player that built a good navy and loose 800 tac's to deal 6% damage to a single DD.
ОтветитьI think Paradox may need to rework the navy again, I just played a game as Britain solely to actually try the navy mechanics some more and surprise surprise, all I did was make slightly newer guns and chucked them on old stuff, gave them a name and built them, barely any investment into the system and for most of the game I just ignored my navy.
Maybe it matters in multiplayer but I have no clue how how they could have made navies worse with a dedicated rework; the tank rework works because most of the investment into getting better guns is worth it since you are also upgrading your artillery, but upgrading anything navy is a completely isolated thing aside from maybe navy AA but that is like the least interesting thing to put on a ship.
I never touched the ships since the man of the guns dlc
ОтветитьNotoriously why the only good naval players only do so in the Pacific where you can't get good aerial supremacy a majority of the time or where it's about equal.
ОтветитьMan skipped WW2 and went straight to WW3 tactics but with bombs instead of missiles
Ответитьfun fact: torpedo DD boats are stupidly broken and are really easy to fart out tons of them
Ответитьi do it with tens of wings consisting 10 to 15 naval bombing capable planes. they harm multiple ships each day and slowly eliminate enemy navy over time.
Ответитьor land based torp bombers, cheap, and absolutely brutal in dealing with enemy ships. In fact, if you dont want the naval supremacy for any naval invasion, you dont need ships at all. Just order them to naval strike and port strike, and they will clear the area in a few weeks.
Ответитьhahhahhaa
next: speedrun banned in china
A video that shall live in infamy
ОтветитьTbf in any good multiplayer game no one will put their fleet out without making the air controller give them a ton of fighter superiority. Navy is still really important in med and imo can change games if you can sink high value units in convoys , but yeah navy does need some kind of buff against navs and especially a buff against kamikazes which are ridiculously strong
ОтветитьNavies, their compositions, strategies and tactics were mostly dictated by senior officer staff. Some of those people were progressive and understood that CVs and related tech got good enough to take the point and surpass capital ships. As far as I can tell, those ppl were not majority. Most of them were slaves to their own experiences from WW1 or whatever. That seems to be the reason for capital ship spam in years between WW1 and WW2. Game doesn't do much to simulate that.
When I see how much one capital ship costs in terms of required docks, resources and time (in-game), I wonder how on earth Japan ever created that mass of capitals it has had at the beginning of the war.
Maybe if paradox would create some sort of 'advisor board' that would press you to go in certain direction and punish you severely in terms of political power if you ignore it, maybe it would address that issue.
But than again, I like to have some historical flavor to my game, some ppl don't, so I guess it will be difficult for Paradox to keep everyone happy
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looks at u/ThatHeccinSun and his HOI4 posts
You have just offended every navy player, but yes.
ОтветитьLevel 4 anti air is no match for his bombers
ОтветитьHow To have the Best navy :
Use naval,strategic,tactical bomber or CAS
How so many planes participate in naval battle?
ОтветитьПоэтому я предпочитаю морскую доктрину на авианосцы, потому что самолëты - имба.
Да и строить линкоры не целесообразно, дорого и долго. Только эсминцы и крейсера, и авианосцы. (Подводные лодки для лохов)
Reminds me when I destroyed like 90% of the Italian Navy by using naval and tac bombers only. Good thing the AI stacked them in the Adriatic so I can focus my entire air force there as I was playing Austria-Hungary with almost non-existent navy. Though it was not much safer in the Mediteranian either because Allies exist. Thanks to that I got naval supremacy by having just one destroyer in the Adriatic Sea.
Ответитьso youre telling me ive been respecting this game by learning about how the navy works when i couldve just forced my entire population into tactical bombers
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