These Aliens Hunt the Cosmos

To an episode on all the Data and all the Songs through time, and one on augments/generally mutations in humans

We should never seen their face it would make them more interesting for example if they breath different kind of air composition.

From what I gather... Solution to the impact of Agriculture.... Mono-cropping sucks, free education rocks, everyone gets to grow their own companion crops in food forests and share with the community :P

@Orange River I’m a bit surprised you don’t discuss the recent Star Trek: Prodigy episode where it reveals a giant telepathic plant which has totally taken over a planet in the Hirogen system, luring victims to stay with visions of their greatest wants. While very little is said of the species itself, it’s an interesting coincidence that such a thing exists on a world so close to the Hirogen homeworld if not directly on it (though likely abandoned long ago).

Lost me when you bought in the non historical misinformation about our IRL world. Stay in your lane.

It has to be one of my favourites

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The current population explosion came about as the result of the Haber-Bosch process. Mechanization of agricultural (including irrigation practices), improved municipal water quality/supply,medical care for infants, and germ theory pretty much explain the rest of the increase.

I can see the Hirogen in the past took a Klingon turn like from enterprise from a science and social society to a warrior based one. At least how I think of what might have happened

If humans develop FTL travel then humanity could become nomadic again. Obviously not all ships would be military or NASA at some point, perhaps the way to build such engines would be leaked to the private sector. Millionares making their space yachts to be better than everyone, families or communities either creating or obtaining ships to get away from society, to live "off the grid", scavanging resources from earth-like planets instead of settling on them... not impossible. Especially if Earth one day gets absorbed by the sun and the Sol system burns out, ... I am sure most people would still want to settle on planets permanently, tho. Laziness is one of the prime driving forces of our innovation, being nomadic is inherently more work.

they belong on the list of space faring races to stupid to exist.

Sounds like hes been reading Daniel Quinn's writing on totalitarian agriculture and the Great Forgetting. Great vid, very engaging as always

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Star Trek Nausican+Hirogen=Predator

Love Star Trek but can't stand hearing this commie libturds BS opinions. Stick to Star Trek

My idea on the Hirogen communications network is that its a remnant of their past when they had a more advanced civilization. Its still around and they still use and maintain it, even if they wouldn't be able to build it again in their current state. And its useful for a wide-ranging species of galactic nomads. An interesting story to explore would be what exactly caused the Hirogen civilization to collapse to such a point. Where is or what became of their homeworld or any colonies? My thoughts are that Hirogen society may have originally been more settled and populous, with great scientists and a large star federation or sphere of influence based on the size of their network. At some point they may have faced some kind of severe natural disaster, like the loss of their homeworld similar to what happened to Romulus. In that case, those who were already in space may have been more suited to survive by adapting to this "hunting" culture. Or it may have been a subculture of theirs that already existed, and became their main culture when their civilization collapsed.

Super fun video. The Hirogen have been a long time favourite of mine.

I sure hope you can loop in paleontology, anthropology and archaeology into more future videos. I'll sub to a channel all about that.

Bit late but... Couldn't help notice the mentions of Göbeklitepe and human history as a whole - Bit off topic but I recommend checking out Graham Hancocks Netflix series Ancient apocalypse, as well as his and Randall Carlsons episode on the JRE podcast, etc... Good video man 🤙

Your great!

Interesting idea but yeah those cultures that remained nomadic never advanced and sadly got overrun by cultures that did.

I liked the horigens

If you look at the middle ages and into the modern era, hunting was still practiced by the nobility. They did not realy rely on it to get food, but it was more than a past time. There was a culture around it. The Hirogen might have a similar aproach to it.

I truly enjoyed that you pulled so much history of human development (including Gobekli Tepi!) in an effort to grasp the concept of a civilization's overall development toward a technologically advanced society. You totally nailed the facts of that lesson. And I do think it yields attributes to the Hirogen eventual outcome, and that perhaps the "hunt" was an attempt to get back to the time where their society had a purpose and function.
Thanks for this killer episode!

The mycelial network meme gets me every fucking time

I knew a guy who played a Hirogen one or two times, he was quite tall as you would imagine.

I'd like to see them fight the Predators

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I love this video

I thought they transitioned to nomads and hunts as a distraction.
The society was beginning was get overpopulated and bloated. It was taking apart.
So they came with a way to get people off the planet, isolated and uninvolved with each other and the homeland business.

I'm digging your videos. You're my Star Trek source.

The gender equality comment lost my subscription, ,

Lamest, most unoriginal species in all of Star Trek, IMO. Klingon + Jem Hadar with a pinch of Yau'cha.

Ahhh, yes. The discount predator.

The most Voyager aliens possible. Big, stupid, and boring

Good video, as a political science major I appreciated this one quite a bit. I'll throw you a subscription here soon, loving all the ST videos

"evolutionary...get it?" Yeah, it got me more than it should have 😂

I always considered them the predator rip off.

So basically they're the Predators

Without agriculture we wouldn't have Star Trek so in my eyes, it was one of the greatest decisions ever made in human history.

They are literally predators

Really surprised you don't mention the movie series "Predator" at all in this. They clearly seem like Star Treks take on that.

They copied Predator

Star Trek is a fascinating body of art. I find that most of the nonterrestrials, and the unique qualities on each species, are loosely based on real races and situations that have been encountered by our modern military intelligence programs, or covert programs which have investigated, retrieved and replicated alien vehicles over the past 70 years of our modern history. Que DS9’s “Little Green Men”. The traits and challenges presented by the Hirogen, Gorn, and Voth are, combined, an almost spot-on allegory for the Alpha Draconian extraterrestrial civilization. Star Trek will be fascinating to re-watch once enough information about our real nonterrestrial neighbors is disclosed to the public. Excellent work!

wasn't gobekli tepe more like 12000 yrs ago?

I really wish that the Hirogen had been the final Big Bad for Voyager rather than the Borg. The Borg had already been done to death even by the time Voyager premiered. The Hirogen were a good concept, a new alien, and intimidating, not to mention Tony Todd. :) I think it would be very easy to set up the Hirgoen wanting to invade the Alpha Quadrant as a new hunting ground even if they had the holographic tech, maybe even splitter groups to deal with or ally with in the last season, the ones that want to use the tech (With added moral complication of the cruelty they inflict on the holograms) and traditionalists that want to invade the Alpha Quadrant, and it can all have a call back to The Killing Game. Continuity!

They are same as reptailians

Probably off shoots of the voth...who left earth a LOOOOONNNNNNGGGG time ago and left across the galaxy

I got Star Trek lore, and an Archaeological & Anthropological discussion in one video! Well done, sir. Thank you.