Renault Zoe ZE50 R135 70mph Range Test | Electrified USED EVs SERIES

I reckon 50kWh usable battery is the price vs range sweet spot for UK: good 150 mile range in most conditions, more in summer, which is plenty for most round trips that I do. I don't do long journeys often in a car (that's what trains are for), but dropping off and picking up is a regular thing. In those journeys, I need up to about 60-80 mile range in each direction and I don't really have time to stop and charge. Part of the charging issue isn't the charging time, it's the waiting time when you hit motorway services at the weekend and the chargers are full.

Thanks for posting. Great to see some real life testing!
Re your question on whether this is enough miles for a car of this size - why is there any assumption that a supermini sized car should have less miles than a big SUV? There's lots of reasons for choosing big or small cars typically based on how many people the driver normally travels with, what the parking situation is like. Having any correlation to range is really artificial.
Based on my own driving patterns a 250 mile range is about the minimum I'd go for as I often make 200 mile or more trips in a day. That means a Tesla or BMW i4 type and size of car to avoid motorway service station chrging challenges Hopefully better technology (and a better charging network) may change that equation soon.

150 miles is better than my 2016 Zoe which gets 65 miles but the difference between what it predicts at the start compared to what you get is just unacceptable

But I can do the same journey on half a tank of petrol,,,,that's still a problem.

3.4Miles/kWh is way short of the Renault claim. In addition it is not a LMFP battery so the 80/10 rule applies so dont regulalry charge to 100% or discharge below 10%. Range becomes even less. Anyone paying 30k for a real world range of sub 150 miles needs a visit to the Shrink and some serious analysis.

Terrible, from potential 220 down to 150 ish and then having to wait for a charger. Don’t drive in the winter

Not bad for car of this size.
Now the question is, how fast does it charge?

I have owned the same car for three months and find 200+ miles easy to get with mixed driving. I find it hard to keep up to 70mph on the M62 I live in Huddersfield so it's less than 70 miles coast to coast. The range is perfect for me. I'm sure in three years the next EV will probably have double the range. Having owned a 30KW LEAF before and a 22KW Fluence before the leaf. This Zoe meets all my needs with no range anxiety at all.

hmm from amsterdam to lodz Iwas able to make 390km on a charge with 110km/h on summer tires A/A rating , when was 32C temp
So dont know what condition do you had doing this test

This is a much more realistic test than WLTP.
10C is probably about the average spring/autumn temperature in the UK.
running constantly at 70MPH simulates the extra drain on the battery when running at a mixed speed load but during full winter ,when heating is on max.
Most commutes would have a bit of 30mph city,a bit of traffic, a bit of suburban say40/ 50mph, and maybe an odd motorway junction or three at 70mph. 150 Miles range on a zoe during winter looks pretty accurate(against 220mile full charge).

To be honest that range is still within "city car" territory. For a regular commuter you need 300+ miles range reliably in all conditions, not to mention faster charging times needed....and the renault isn't that bad in that respect.
Next generation batteries will probably be the sweet spot.Not quite there yet.

Great video - many thanks!

Seems very poor to me on long trips . They are a second car for local driving. Do the same trip in minus 2 ° to compare as places up north have to contend with for 4mths of the year.

22C!! I use 19.5C Do you drive in shorts and a T shirt😂

Nice constant driving. You can’t do that over a holiday weekend 😊
In July I managed Swindon to Bolton in my Zoe R135, approx 170miles with 20% to spare! After my tests, 68 on the clock works best I think, so not being too slow on the motorway.
Clearly town/ A roads makes a difference as my average is usually 4.2 or above most of the time.
My Volvo Recharge is a very different story ! 😂

Bonkers

All depends on what you use the car for. I’d say this type car is mainly for short trips and great town car. Although for small ev anything above 200miles on full charge is ok. Until these ev’s can go over 300 miles not sure I’d go for one as I’m a driving instructor.

Tempted to buy a Zoe but the range would worry me on a journey of any length. My ageing ICE car manages 300 miles on £40 of petrol with no problem. Faster charging and 250 miles range and go for a Zoe.

the range of my zoe R135 (on avarage) is about 370 Km (summer) (highway and country roads combined ) ,at an average speed of 90-95 KM/h, BUT, driving this car in wintertime will reduce the range with approx 70 KM ! Batteries do not like cold and hot conditions.. but price versus range, this car is a winner!

Yes

Zoe would be no use for my trips to daughter an dsister. Usually about175 miles and as I have difficulty walking I cannot risk running out of power,

So for now I'll stick with economical turbo diesel that gives me 70mpg all day.

The distance is fine if like me you are old and need a nature break every two hours maximum ! What would be of greater concern is the availability of a charger straight away - otherwise a charging stop becomes a pit stop waiting for a charger to become free with tea and food which will bring the two hours between stops down to one hour lol.

That certainly enough range for me. I have a 30 mi round commute each day so I could manage three of those between charges easily 😊

Would be very interesting to see the results of doing the same again at 60 mph and 50 mph. I generally reckon to get over 200 miles cruising at 62 mph.

My humble ice car has a range of 500 miles on a full tank of the devils fuel that cost £50, i think it I'll give ev's a miss until they can get somewhere close to that. 😂

Just bought a GT line. I think the range is more then enough for general day to day driving and living near Huddersfield to the West or East coast for a day out. My bladder range is 80 miles or two hour max so this car is perfect for retirees like my wife & I.

Thanks for driving this test. Its summer so battery chemistry is not impeded by the cold. My Zoe 50 took a 30% range hit during cold weather ie just above freezing. 151 miles at just over the national speed limit is pretty good, but this seemed to be a flat run with few obstacles and no need to surge to achieve any overtakes. Hence, minimum battery pressure. Love this third generation Zoe, except for circulation impeding rear seats! Same old charging problem even on the motorway network. Insuffient chargers to meet demand. Its only tajen tge government 14 years to start improving this vital infrastructure...

Drop your speed by 5mph. It would make next to no difference on the journey but give you roughly 4.2m/KWh. That is where my car sits and it is a constant saving if you commute.

Hope for your sake doesn't catch FIRE ! 🔥

Try and sell it - Not worth a Carrot ! 🥕

Pathetic = My Merc 2019 B200CDi (Diesel) AMG Line averaged over 21000 miles shows an average of 55.6 MPG and on more economic runs over 50 Miles have seen as high as 88 MPG !

I think it's very poor tbh.
Nowhere near it's advertised range

I zeroed my gauges a couple of month ago and have done about 3000 miles of mixed town and mainly fast A roads. The consumption meter now reads 4.5 m/Kwh, so not at all bad. I agree with the previous comment that at 60mph the range increases substantially.

Infrastructure, there are 40 million cars on the road in the UK and you arrived at the charging bay and couldn't charge one on a day when the motorway seemed relatively quiet.

Be interesting to do the same test at 60 mph see how much improvement is made

It's amazing how much difference just a slight drop in speed can make to the efficiency. I travelled from Kielder to Stoke the other day and maintained a steady 65 mph (using cc) and my efficiency was 4.5 m/kWh. completed the whole journey (190 miles according to google maps) with one comfort break, where I added £1.98 of Gridserve electric. Arrived with 6% left.

The charging situation is dismal.

There's a massive buffer under 0 percent on the Zoe R135. Typically another 20 miles, so with 6% left you'd likely be able to drive another 30+ miles comfortably

Only 146 miles for 95% of a full charge, I think the BMS in that Zoe needs an update.

Barely 150 miles ! Not 3 hours driving ! And then can’t even charge the thing ! Utterly stupid !

I’ll soon be heading down to Bibury , I doubt a refuel will be required for the round trip back to Bury , in my 2.4 litre petrol .

It is and the result you got is on par with my experience. I've driven mine, as stated on the other zoe video of yours, for 40.000 miles. For me it's enough, I've been travelling through Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Hungary and Romania with my zoe.

A great helper for the planning has been ABRP with a OBD dongle and I've reached all destinations. Generally you can expect about half of the journey time to be charging time on the longer journeys. But the zoe isn't made for long journeys with it's 45kW peak charging speed. On the other hand for daily use the 45kW CCS is adequate and paired with the 22kW makes for a good commuters car IMO.

I managed 165 miles home from Walsall in my identical Zoe, without turtle mode or warnings, but I've reached the age when this is possible at a steady lower speed in the evening. I use a lot more D mode now as, you don't have to keep pushing power, with less rolling resistance. Weather helps a bit and of course GOM is not always to be trusted. Over 4 Wh/mile especially in stop-start traffic from London/Swindon in the last few days. Great test, thanks, more please.

Thanks for the video. Good results for an EV that is currently available for £11k on the used market and still with warranty remaining. I suppose the biggest shame is gridserve and others putting in 2 chargers along motorway routes ect. These run uber slow when sharing the charge. I also hoped more destination chargers were about for the longer stops that we make