500 years of NOT teaching THE CUBIC FORMULA. What is it they think you can't handle?

500 years of NOT teaching THE CUBIC FORMULA. What is it they think you can't handle?

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Mike Miller
Mike Miller - 12.09.2023 22:25

The cubic equation is mostly a waste of time. In my work, I've used the quadratic many times, but any higher orders are done numerically. I've never needed to solve a cubic exactly, and if I did, I could look it up. It's not the sort of thing we should waste time teaching. The real reason we shouldn't teach it is that students could be learning much more important math — probability and statistics, mortgages and interest rates, etc. What about vector spaces and matrix algebra? Why spend time on the cubic equation? It isn't worth it.

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Ali Umar
Ali Umar - 07.09.2023 19:47

Fascinating. I am really impressed. You explained it to the comprehension of a junior High school level student. I was already aware of all these tricks you applied but never accord to me to put them together the way you did. I thank you for your excellent demonstration.

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Roger
Roger - 22.08.2023 22:56

I have this equation 8y^3 – 4y + 1 = 0 and know that one root is y = (√5 – 1)/4 or 1/(√5 + 1) = 1/(2Φ) = sin18°, where Φ = (√5 + 1)/2 is the Golden Ratio. I'm going to see if this formula gives the solution in one of these forms.

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Roger
Roger - 18.08.2023 12:48

I use the fact that every cubic equation with real coefficients has at least one real root. Quickly graphing the function I estimate one real root and use Newton-Raphson iteration to increase its accuracy as necessary. Then I use synthetic division to obtain the factored quadratic equation and the quadratic formula to obtain the other two roots. Why on earth would I ever memorize such a messy equation when I rarely find roots of a cubic equation and a much simpler iterative method exists? That formula might be useful for writing a computer program to diagonalize 3 by 3 inertia matrices.

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Roxane serine
Roxane serine - 04.08.2023 07:06

We are waiting for the Galois theory.

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rangaswamy ks
rangaswamy ks - 26.07.2023 06:58

you r great sir.
reveals secrets of maths formule
i like you sir.

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Rico Velasquez
Rico Velasquez - 25.07.2023 03:19

doubt: whats the point of turning b into zero like you have now bounded yourself to solve a certain type of cubic which doesnt not consist of term x^2. the removing a was good and works for all

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Victor Finberg
Victor Finberg - 20.07.2023 03:14

because the cubic formula takes up 4 pages in my handbook of mathematical functions

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E1craZ4life
E1craZ4life - 18.07.2023 00:36

If you want to find the other two cube roots, there's an easy way to do so:

After solving a cubic of the form [ x^3 + px + q = 0 ], take the solution acquired from plugging into the cubic formula, which we'll call "k", and create the quadratic [ x^2 - kx + q/k = 0 ].

If the original cubic has one real solution, then the new quadratic will have two complex solutions.
If the original cubic has two real solutions, then the new quadratic will have one real solution.
If the original cubic has three real solutions, then the new quadratic will have two real solutions.

You can then plug in the acquired values for x in the original cubic, and the math will work out just fine.

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Red Pill Math. Myths Busted. Domingo Gomez Morin. - 17.07.2023 05:22

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yaara
yaara - 14.07.2023 21:54

Great video ❤

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Terax
Terax - 05.07.2023 20:28

I love the little detail of his shirt.
When he talks about the quadratic formula he wears a shirt with a "square root" and then when he starts talking about the cubic formula he changes to a shirt with a "cube root".

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GufNZ
GufNZ - 05.07.2023 04:37

Neat trick with the shirts

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PC Simo
PC Simo - 03.07.2023 12:47

I wonder, what happens, if p = 0, and the inflection point lies right on the x-axis 🤔.

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Nikola kosanovic
Nikola kosanovic - 01.07.2023 14:04

What second derivative represents graficly

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Gennady Zyablitsev
Gennady Zyablitsev - 29.06.2023 13:53

learned Cardano and Ferrari formulas in 8th grade in advanced math class. Definitely something absolutely unnecessary for an average mid school student.

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pleappleappleap
pleappleappleap - 27.06.2023 23:55

The `x^2 + A = 0` thing is a great illustration that all parabolas are geometrically similar.

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Shiva Chaturvedhi
Shiva Chaturvedhi - 27.06.2023 05:37

I dont think, in India, we had not studied.
I remember, studing of
standard equation, x^3+3mx-2n=0
which has one definite real root, and two other conjugates, either real or imaginary depending on some condition
real root : (m+d)^1/3+(m-d)^1/3 where d^2=m^3+n^2

whatever, there are many things , new and crazy from your videos
quiet interesting
especially, finding next prime number, a way to write an algorithm
checking it to impleent.
really intersting

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Peter Gerdes
Peter Gerdes - 23.06.2023 03:04

I've never understood the fetish for writing solutions in terms of radicals or even elementary functions. Fine, maybe before computers it was important because we had more efficient tricks to approximate these functions at our fingertips but just using Newton's method (or better computational approximations) is no less a solution (you can prove convergence for these roots if you start near enough root).

At the end of the day, formally speaking, a converging sequence is closer to the definition of a real than a formula using roots (hell here we even get a sigma1 definable converging sequence with computably boundable errors).

IMO this reinforces the wrongheaded idea that math is just about memorizing a bunch of formulas and tricks. Hell, I think it's silly even to teach the quadratic formula in the modern world. Plugging into a formula is no different than plugging into a calculator.

Teach completing the square as a technique and if someone needs to understand it they can rederive, if they don't they can use a calculator.

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Alok Sheel
Alok Sheel - 22.06.2023 22:06

wow....i have never seen/met this type of teacher...amazing

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ZDM314
ZDM314 - 20.06.2023 10:33

My math teachers taught it. Circa 2008 or 9.

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Matías Braun
Matías Braun - 18.06.2023 08:06

I feel so ashamed of myself

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MissPiggyM976
MissPiggyM976 - 17.06.2023 21:35

Wonderful, many thanks !

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DistanteInstante
DistanteInstante - 17.06.2023 15:57

With no intention to annoy anyone. Math, physics chemistry logic, ethimology , anatomy and agriculture, are some of the subjects which should be taught from the kindergarden... However, hiw the actual education system works is to make the children and people in general dumber... But why? For those who wish to learn more about why is the Educational system failing. I sugest the book Rockefeller Medicine Man .

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Richard
Richard - 15.06.2023 18:29

I have an AI doing it for me I don't have to learn this junk

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Matheus Alves
Matheus Alves - 14.06.2023 00:23

Fun fact: In Brazil we refer to it as "Bhaskara's formula" (in Portuguese "Fórmula de Bhaskara") due to a misunderstanding when the formula arrived here, so that we thought that formula was invented by an Indian called Bhaskara, but he only idealized it without an algebrac notation.

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voronische
voronische - 12.06.2023 03:50

perfect t-shirt for the topic :)

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Luis Millan
Luis Millan - 10.06.2023 07:11

Question: The cubic polynomial in fun fact number one, must be monic?

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Rob Patterson
Rob Patterson - 09.06.2023 20:43

You are so awesome dude! ❤

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Conor Breakell
Conor Breakell - 09.06.2023 16:01

your completing the square explanation was the most clear and concise one I've ever seen!

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Samuele Castiglioni
Samuele Castiglioni - 05.06.2023 14:23

i can't believe such a perfect video exists... going into detail but still understandable. thank you very much

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Francis Grizzly Smit
Francis Grizzly Smit - 05.06.2023 10:27

I like the cube roots on your tee-shirt

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Francis Grizzly Smit
Francis Grizzly Smit - 05.06.2023 10:15

my teacher told us about this in year 11, but I think I was the only one to chase it up

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Dissent
Dissent - 04.06.2023 00:59

There are other, better, and far more useful things that could be taught in the time that this useless bit of trivia might fill. How about statistical tests, or a better understanding of probability and conditional probability? The idea of bothering with this is probably the least intelligent/most worthless idea I’ve seen in quite some time.

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Robert Pearson
Robert Pearson - 03.06.2023 01:08

When they attempted to teach me how to calculate the square root of a number, they used the algebraic method. It gets more difficult for each digit. And if you make a mistake, all the subsequent work is wasted.
Newton's method is simpler. More understandable. Converges much more rapidly (the number of digits of accuracy doubles each iteration). Guess the answer. Then divide the number by your guess. One number is greater than the square root. The other number is less than the square root. Average them. This is your new guess.
No pulling down two digits. Doubling the divisor and subtracting. Just to get one more digit.
Why are these piss-poor algorithms still taught in school?

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Rychei
Rychei - 29.05.2023 05:33

Then Trig walked in...

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kyks
kyks - 26.05.2023 23:10

🫐🍡➕🍒🥢➕🥑➕🧃= 🍽️ *Hint🤤

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galactus_007
galactus_007 - 26.05.2023 16:38

There is a much easier method to solve the quartic equation which we were taught, which was take for example x^4 = t^2 then x^2 = t and using this substitution we can solve the quartic like a quadratic and again put values of t to get x

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