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Nope, If you want the best crowd control damage effect with Tenet Cycron, mod it for HEAT. The punch-through is ridiculous with [Seeker] and you can mod it for Corrosive with 2 mods instead of 3. Viral is a joke on it unless you plan to swing at something with a melee weapon with CO, and Toxin is only good for going through corpus shields nowadays but doesn't work as efficiently as expected on most weapons. Steel Path Circuit Decree cards will thank/reward you later as well.
See you later today for that twitch stream drop Kengineer.
I got kuva bramma with 59% electirc bonus is that good or bad?
ОтветитьAny updates to this video regarding the changes to Cold? Could be good for weapons like the Kuva Nukor to boost that ridiculous crit multiplier even higher.
ОтветитьI heard toxin isn't the best now and its Heat for nearly everything.. so i was farming toxic now heat, now i find out the nukor is best with Magnetic... NOOOOOOo more grinding litches haha
ОтветитьI think this video is straight up wrong or out of date, toxin is not the best option for most weapons. Heat is actually the most versatile element for easy additional damage, with magnetic, radiation or impact for more specific weapons like the Nukor or cycron for example.
ОтветитьSo my issue right now with my tennet Cycron is since its innately heat and the progenitor is Toxin, its outputting gas more that anything. Im thinking of getting another cycron but full heat focused
ОтветитьWhat about Tenet Cycron, which has innate heat which sucks with Toxin progenitor because we don't want Gas or Blast or we'd need THREE mods to go radiation viral heat?
ОтветитьBy the way ive seen someone using cycron on tridolon for those small flying heads. I think it may be a decent idea, having a rad progenitor bonus on it or on a nukor will kille them for the lures very fast
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ОтветитьWhy do some people suggest to go for heat and magnetic? Magnetic?? So which element is better? I am lost. Cause for example Nukor, people suggested me to go for heat but here people said magnetic?
ОтветитьImo if you're running the galvanized status mods go magnetic. If not go for toxin or radiation.
Ответитьok 1 flux and ogris are fine with toxin 2 nukor can do slash with hemorege its good for co and gun co
ОтветитьThe answer will never not be Cold or Toxin for easier access to Viral.
ОтветитьI ask myself whats the best way to kill enemies in the granum void (i want toxin but dont have a xoris) can someone give me some tipps
Ответитьhow do you build a viral + heat for example for a bramma if you choosed toxin? and why do even people build it on kuva bramma if there is corrosive?
ОтветитьI have electric kuva nukor what can I do to finish steel path mission's? Or just crap weapon? I put 5 forma on it already 🤦♂️
ОтветитьKuva Hek might be really good for Heat/Radiation as Archon bosses are a thing and the Kuva Hek can oneshot them with a build that focuses of multiplicitive damage like Crit Chance, Crit Damage, and Multishot while Status Chance and extra damage can be a good sidegrade to it with extra slots. Rhino can fufill the damage towards certain enemies as his Roar is basically that.
What to avoid: - Mag Size, if the mag size goes less than 4, then the alt fire will not function.
Heat is probably the best single stat option for any weapon, with DOT+50% armor strip. I always pick heat and mod for viral or corrosive as required by the enemy, which always leaves me with a heat proc available in addition to the modded proc. As for the nukor i still use heat, but yeah, magnetic is actually a better choice, good thing we can change that. ^_^
ОтветитьFor eidolon hunts would electricity or rad prognator give a higher dmg?
ОтветитьI prefer a heat or radiation status
heat to reduce armor
radiation to another status for gundition overload
I wish gas damage could bypass shields as well.
ОтветитьI had rhino and got 27% impact kuva ogris
ОтветитьToxic only works if you're going for a crit based or slash paste build but if you want heat for heat prox then you're better off with heat as your progenitor. The reason is if you want heat on your weapon but toxic is your progenitor then you need at least three elemental mods to force standard heat to show up if you just put heat it's going to mix for gas and if you put heat plus any other element they're going to mix so you still need a toxic mod mixed with cold or electric so that you can have standard heat on the weapon which leads to the next problem if I am going to have three elemental mods on a weapon I want them to be heavily weighted for heat but with toxic as a progenitor you're going to wind up with three sources for either viral or corrosive reducing your maximum heat which reduces your proc output for heat. I agree with the video as long as you're willing to forgo heat damage on the weapon.
ОтветитьHere's what you do by a Zara ribbon by a new core ribbon
And get a tzar and Nucor in each of the damage types and maximum to 60%, you're welcome
Then there are the weapons that have a 2nd innate damage type, like the blast radial damage of the Kuva Bramma. One of my Brammas has a radiation progenitor (great against alloy armor) and I can build it for either corrosive damage (great against ferrite armor and fossilized) or slash/viral (great against living targets). My corrosive build is currently putting out 600K sustained DPS without any Warframe buffs and is great against most targets.
Ответитьwhat about the Kuva Arch weapons?
ОтветитьI went with Radiation on Kuva Zarr, and I do not regret my decision. I do regret hunting that Lich in public lobbies though...
ОтветитьDammit, I should have watch this video before getting a 50% Toxin Kuva Ogris.
ОтветитьActually, all progenitor melee weapons (except Tenet Agendus) will benefit from Heat, because it allows them to be effective in Heat Inherit setups. They turn out pretty evenly matched in terms of damage, and still lose to Nepheri and Silva & Aegis Prime in that niche, but they are all still very, very much viable.
ОтветитьI put heat on my kuva nukor, and it is still GREAT. I'm not using galvanized mods, and im running radiation, gas, and magnetic for an all-round status vomit.
ОтветитьSo would you recommend toxin on the zarr as well? I was just thinking of putting radiation on it to deal w/ the zariman SP cuz I feel like that would help out a lot with that, I put radiation on my bramma and w/ a viral rad and heat build (may swap out heat for hunter munitions for slash procs) and it doesnt do too bad on SP
ОтветитьI did magnetic on the tenet spirex and it shreds acolytes in a couple of head shots, it's also great at helping take down lich/ sister shields
ОтветитьWhich toxin progenitor would you recommend for doing the Granum Void with? Im having a hard time with anyone but Mesa, who obviously is magnetic, not toxin.
ОтветитьI use tenet envoy with cold so i have viral with 0 elemental mods helps with the heavy amount of good mods that primaries have
ОтветитьGreat video I was hoping if you can do a video about kitguns and helminth abilities
ОтветитьPro Gamer Video 👌🏻
Thanks again bro 👍🏻
I'm a bit confused about something. You say you can just put heated charge or primed heated charge onto a secondary weapon if you need heat, but wouldn't you then still need to put a toxin mod on your gun, so the cold element doesn't combine with the heat element to make blast? As far as I know, the progenitor element is taken into consideration after mods, so trying to just use the toxin progenitor to combine with the cold for viral, but then putting heat on to get viral and heat, would just cause you to have blast and toxin would it not? Wouldn't that make it better to go for heat, so you have the heat on the gun already and don't need to use a mod slot for it, so you can mod viral onto it?
I'm probably wrong about something, but I've messed around with mods and progenitor bonuses on some of my guns in-game and that's generally how its played out.
Toxin if you want to maximize slash damage (viral-slash as target).
Heath if the weapon doesn't have significant slash and innate heat (targeting viral-heath).
Magnetic if the weapon has innate heat (magnetic-viral-heath as target).
Radiation if you want to make an anti grinner weapon (Radiation-Corrosive-heat as target).
Impact if the weapon can abuse Hemorrhage mods but has no guaranteed Impact proc.
Kuva vs Tenet which one is better than the other
ОтветитьYay, thought you'd have one to tell me what to pick! I do wish they could make other combos more viable so we don't get funneled always to viral slash.
ОтветитьA little late here, but I use a magnetic Kuva Ogris, as I find using heat is a bit redundant with nightwatch napalm, as that DUMPS heat procs. I use magnetic primarily because non of the other elements I use (viral + elec + heat from napalm) are good at dealing with high-health shields of corpus units. Also, adding in magnetic gives the kuva ogris 8 different elements (IPS + Blast + magnetic + viral + elec + heat) for the purpose of galvanized aptitude
ОтветитьQuestion. How would a toxin Tenet Cycron work? Adding cold will make it blast+toxin, rught? Wouldn't progenitor magnetic or radiation be better?
ОтветитьI went with radiation for my kuva chakkhur and Kuva bramma because radiation is super helpful to me in steel path missions
Ответитьi think you messed up on the ogris, i have toxin progenitor, no heat build in and yet nightwatch napalm procs heat on enemies like crazy (almost every tick puts a stack)
ОтветитьQuestion impact progenitor ogris would it benefit from internal bleeding
ОтветитьWhy not heat on something like the Arca Plasmor that can properly utilize Galvanized Savvy? Then you could slap on cold and toxin mods to have Rad+Heat+Viral for more status effects to proc the damage bonus.
ОтветитьWow.. FAN-TAS-TIC video. Helped a lot
ОтветитьLike I’ve always said though…viral and slash doesn’t work on every weapon.
ОтветитьSo, what about multi-procing? Personally I’d rather have a weapon that procs viral, slash and heat all together, rather then waiting on one DoT to get the job done.
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