This is Toxic Masculinity

This isnt only wrong, he depiction of it is contradictory. He started off right by saying "here's how to change it", because if focuses on action and taking accountability. It seems like she detected that train of thought and inserted the feminine way of looking at the world and he agreed with it without realizing he contradicts the natural line of thing of "here's howto change it". Which consideres the problem within your control to be your responsibility to control. You don't even need to go that deep to see how wrong these comments are, no manosphere community will tell guys to blame others, that's absurd, it goes against any depiction of masculinity

Its always your fault

In some situations, there has to be someone who solves a problem and endures pain and discomfort. You can talk about "getting help" and "opening up" all you want, but if a family is in financial hardship, overloaded with responsibility or in any kind of crisis - NO ONE will solve it for you and it does not matter at all whose fault it is or how you feel about it. That is where the "toxic man" comes in who is told to shut up and put up, no matter if it is unfair, to much or if it will cost him dearly. Fellow men know that, and won't let you keep the illusion of an easy way out because in order to get out of a tough situation, you need accept it fully and grit your teeth. I think a term like "toxic masculinity" could only be coined in a wealthy society, because if life is tough you need that toxic man to shield the family ...

This is my argument for when ppl tell me that ADHD is a disability. Making it not your fault deviates responsibility away from you imo

“Be ruthless to systems and compassionate to individuals”

This is at least aa old as communism/Marxism.
Its basically the sole selling point of liberals. Different clothes for different groups but same message.

Not your fault or responsibility.
Its misogyny
Racism
Bigotry
Toxic masculinity
Its women for the mgtow group
Its rich people...the classic Marxist line
Its not fair
Its not compassionate
Its health care
Its......

I wasnt expecting blossom in this vid

And this is why I stopped watching Dr.K's content. Doing the very same thing he's blaming the other side is doing... but in reverse.

What does that clip accomplish beside feeding the circle jerk of people that already agree with this kind of rhetoric?
I guess it also misquotes and mischaracterizes the side they're "fighting" because they're the "good guys" in all of this?

Red pill has a lot of bad influences but at its core, it tells men this: "Society is this way, no one's gonna help you but yourself. It's up to you to take your life into your own hands."
Sure helped me more than meditating or getting my money swindled by a therapist.

I'm now not part of the red pill anymore nor "on the good side" of the argument because I realized life is not black and white. And I'm thankful for that because this clip is probably as harmful to any young man struggling than getting swept up in the Tate formula...

8€ the E Go¿

Emotional Go makes me a good fighter

Who are the people being blamed in question?

This interview soon to be illegal under the trump administration

Liberals really should stop calling things "dangerous." It's only effective on other liberals.

When someone spiraling down the conservative pipeline hears a lib say "It's dangerous," they think "Hell yeah I am, this lib is scared because we're powerful & going to defeat them."

I'm trying to figure out what's more toxic:

1.) Men becoming more like women, i.e. not contributing as much, but being needy.

2.) Hardworking men who work way more than women and EARN MORE so they can be taxed more.

In a 2021 Norwegian government study, they found that women receive >500% more money from the state compared to men. 320 000$ vs 1 620 000$ over the course of their lives, in 2024s money. The main issue was that a.) women call in sick much more than men. b.) They don't work as much as men. This results in less taxes to contribute to the point it's not sustainable. It's available in English if you're interested.

I'm a creep I'm a weirdo

This was just a bunch of mumbo-jumbo.
To speak as if environmental factors, sociopolitical factors, economic factors don't exist is just plain stupid.

And just purely logically speaking, there is very little humans actually have control over. We have control over our arms and legs. And we have control over our emotions and how we respond to environmental situations. Outside of that is a nice mix of privilege and luck.

Wtf, is not even close to it... That's why they talk about self improvement. Is quite the opposite actually.

Wait what?! Whenever people are in that position where they are constantly calling themselves a loser, there is ALWAYS something that person can do to change themselves.

Most of the problem lies in their believe that because someone else broke them they should rely on others to fix them, instead of finding small victories to restore their agency and self worth.

The reason Jordan Peterson tells men to clean their room is because that's a space that they have the most control over, which gives them a responsibility even in situations where they have next to no control over where they live (be it parents/roommates/significant others)

What I find the toxic masculinity types go about saying is "because you're not enough of a man" coupled with a lot of sexist nonsense. Unfortunately, in a certain segment of the population, this is deeply, deeply drilled into the kid before they even reach puberty.

Yet, there very clearly are people and systems in place that prevent the majority of us from improving ourselves.

The toxic group will insist that the solution is to be better than your peers, that you need to directly compete with those around you.
They'll frequently insist that you are better, but that someone else is stealing your credit and benefits.

The truth is more like you are better than you are giving credit for, you deserve better, but is the systems and institutions that you have to fight to change, not individual people or groups of people.
And that although it's all rigged against you, that doesn't mean you are powerless or exempt from the responsibility of improving yourself so that you can improve the system.
The important point is that you're not fighting against your peers to improve life for yourself, you are struggling against a system to improve life for everyone.

That lady’s interjection and your validation are utter nonsense.
“Your life sucks, here’s the social and overarching variables playing into that, here’s ONE approach you can take bc hedonism can be more gratifying than crippling depression.”

Try and get it right harvard man ppl actually think you know what you’re talking about.

Why is Dr K talking to the woman from College humour?

You and mayim??

I feel like it's even more so "you're not the problem, everyone else has a problem with you," so they're telling men they don't need to grow, mature, or care for other people.

Guys, we figured out the solution like 1000 years ago and it’s called chivalry, y’all need to stop being dumb.

I feel that for a very long time society has had these norms where if you cry as a man you are teased. If you cry as a woman you are very sensitive. Society always expects you to control your emotions and as a result we have so many frustrations and find ourselves angry or hurting in a way we do such mean things to get back. We should be able to express ourselves without having to hold in our emotions. That way we can be stronger and better people.

Well to be honest, for most of us, yes it is somebody’s fault…the capitalists fault 😅

That's weird, because whenever I stumble across redpill and what not, they don't say "it's someone else's fault", its always "you're depressed and feel like a loser, and it's your own fault. Get better, be better, get disciplined"

I stopped listening after I saw Mayim now I have to watch it again xD

I think that whether or not it is someone else's fault that one acts or reacts a certain way it is still the individual's responsibility to heal that part of their selves so as not to hurt others, right?

How Trump won over so many young male voters.

Great to see you Mayim😊

Sometimes other people are at fault, though.

I don't think that this is somethimg that is confined to any group. It's simply human nature to blame another person or group for one's shortcomings. That's why we have racism, anti-Semitism, etc.

It's refreshing to see more people (especially experts in health and psychology) setting the record straight on what toxic masculinity really is. You used to hear so often that "THE WOKE MOB" was telling everyone "IT'S TOXIC TO BE A MAN", but that's not the point and it never was. It's simply that toxicity is often ingrained in the ways we teach boys and men to act from a young age due to the society we live in. I hope more men can embrace wholesome masculinity and shed the negative social stigmas they've been raised to carry around as time goes on.

Spot on!

Males need to stop victimizing themselves over and over. Jfc its exhausting

I had a discussion with a dude online. He shared his feelings how no-one will ever love him because he's so ugly. I shared some suggestions which had helped me when I had similar outlook in life. But he accepted literally none of the advices where he could've taken the active role in attempt to improve his situation. It was the sign for me to quit the chat when he said the only useful advice he'd ever gotten was red pillers telling him to lie to get a date, while blaming me for trying to give him some advice that had worked for me.

It's so sad to see these dudes falling into that rabbit hole and no genuine help will reach them because that's not what they want to hear. They want everything to be someone else's fault and they see the people who are dumb enough to try & help them as the evil ones 🤦

It isn’t ok to try to tear someone down,but so many people need a little kindness mixed w/ some tough love. The world is rough. You really have to toughen up also. I have learned that.

And how is that view working out for you?

Woke bull

Yep

Yeah the hospital I was going to had a meeting where the lady said no coffee while drawing attention to her own cofee and basically went too bad so sad I'm not the one who's pregnant.

🦁Yeah pretty glad to not be interested in more kids.

I've tried my best to teach my kids the difference between "not my fault, therefore not my responsibility" and "not my fault, but there's power in taking on some of the responsibility." And, of course, we can hopefully own our faults and better ourselves, but I'm talking about the "unfairnesses" we face.

but im a creep im a weeeeeirdooooo

OMG IT'S AMY

I dont get this someone help??
Like when i felt like shi and andrew tate or stvr would say stuff like "yes cuz ur shit, look like shit, smell like shit, no wonder you feel like shi" then id actually DO something about it cuz duh.
How is it toxic masculinity?

This crossover is the best of 2024 😂 thanks yall 🎉

This video is just nonsense. If you think everything wrong with someones life is there fault then your a monster. If you believe that everyone who is homless or has to work 2 jobs just to pay for a hotel is there because of his own fault then you have no compasion whatsoever. It is a reality that there are sustemic problems in our society that affect people in ways they cannot control. Toxic elitism which is what these two millionaires suffer from, is the belief that anyone who is not as rich and successful as I am just have themselves to blame and there dangerous for not agreeing with me.

So basically if a man's life is bad its his fault but if a woman's life is bad it men's fault. So sick of this gynocentric western bs