Will Indonesia Join the U.S or China?

Indonesia is a founding non-aligned member country that does not support the Western Block or the Eastern Block

But remember Indonesia is one of the founder of Non-Aligned Movement which doesnot and will one align to anyone. For consideration, if Indonesia join US, US will likely to interfere with Indonesia's politic, etc, except for Indonesian growth. Which if join China, China will likely solely for economic developement, so which one do you think is more wise to choose?

Indonesia always adheres to its international policy: 'Independent and active', they never choose sides and always going non-block.

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Good info. Asean area is obvious key areas of our globe in the future. They have enough muscle not to take too strongly sides in the worsening conflict between US and PRC. I hve one request though. I am Northern European, flag of Denmark was shown instead of Dutch flag. So could you please update that part.

Forced indonesia to choose between 2 side, will ended we closer but not sided with the opposite of you. 😂😊

why did 1k people dislike this vidoe

If you study Indonesian history, you will know that Indonesia hates China because Chinese was part of the people that oppressed it during the 350 years of Netherland occupation. Indonesia as Muslim country also hates the US because of the US support for Israel. Indonesia was also a "neutral bloc" during the cold war.

So, it won't chose friends, it's a big country for itself.

Non block bro, so you guys wont fight each other

Indonesians prefer Chindos to bule, soo. . .

Indonesia is a non-aligned country but not 100% because until 1967 President Soekarno was close friends with the Soviet Union and China, after 1967 President Soeharto was very close to the USA in Southeast Asia, President Ford gave support to Indonesia for the occupation of Timor Leste to prevent communism in Southeast Asia , after the end of the cold war USA supported Australia's interests in Timor Leste by banning the sale of military equipment to Indonesia and since then the Indonesian people no longer trust America until President Obama gave a grant of 25 units of F16 jet fighters, currently the Indonesian military is very close to France, Britain and the USA bought more than 25 billion dollars in military equipment but traded more closely with China, India, Asean, Korea and Japan

Indonesians don't hate American people. We hate American government's unfair decision to let Israel keep destroying Palestine without penalties. Indonesian people now stopped buying American goods and products as a sign of protest against Israel.... We will buy it again if America can stop Israel and work to rebuild Palestine. Create solution so Palestinian people can also live in peace and freedom. Not under occupation of Israel.

You know a lot about Indonesian History....
I wanna ask you....
Does John F. Kennedy's death have anything to do with his closeness to Soekarno? including His policies towards Indonesia...especially about Freeport?

Indonesia must join and support for US

it's better to join a group that wants to develop, rather than just accepting green earth propaganda but they casually build industries that push other countries to become backward

Indonesia is Non-block country.

One thing with Indonesia is that the influence of western media is still prevalent in the media.
However with the rise of middle class disposable income and infrastructures, China has boosted Indonesian economy over the past decades.

Indonesia also won't align with U.S. foreign policy on Palestine issue, that makes closer to China.
Indonesia also have traditional family values, which LGBTQ is frowned upon by the majority.
SCS wise, although there are some border disputes, i think China dispute with Indonesian side is less hostile compared to the Philippines.

To summarize, the US influence in Indonesia is through foreign investments and media,
While the need of Indonesians are economy growth, infrastructures and partnerships - which China offers more on the table.

I dont think my country will choose side. The Non Block policy making us great in the cold war 1.0, why should we choosing side for cold war 2.0 ?

I worked there for a year, to be honest they really do not like Chinese people at all. The Philippines was switching to China from its old alliance with the US a few years ago but now they are going back to the Americans.

Major bribery from US to Indonesia! There were too many shady business US can do in return!

Jeebus dude, this guy calls Sukarno "Sir Karno," calls Suharto "Sir Rato," and calls Allen Dulles "Doo Lus." His pronunctiation is as poor as his research. Such crazy historical inaccuracies in this. What a shame near 1mil people have watched this. This dude throws out Indonesian proverbs with incorrect meanings, uses wrong flags, claims histories are still debating cuz he read a paper that's half a century old (read John Roosa's Pretext for Mas Murder - we know exactly what was behind G30)

This dude is soooooo far out of his league that irs comical and we are going to enjoy this video for a long time to come. I'm going to use him in a lecture as my example of Americans who think they're knowledgeable but don't know jack

so other countries is fighting for the country that i live in?

Why Indonesia won't be on China side:
1. South China Sea conflict
2. The civilization anti to communism due to historical experience


Why Indonesia won't be on US side:
1. US mostly seen as the actor of the conflicts in Middle East, especially Palestine x Israel
2. US arbitrarily imposes penalties on other countries

Indonesesia is a Smart country, thier leaders are more intelligent.

We never choose a side. On Economy we choose China, on military equipment we buy American-NATO products. Oh the fun fact, some our military toys made in Israel. The country that we hate. Lol

like China, Indonesia is smart enough now to know who is the devil on this planet.

Indonesia has played a very smart game.
They know that they can't changed their neighbors and hence a peaceful settlement between them e.g. China and Indonesia, will ensure lasting peace and prosperity.
But they do see US and Australia as a more imminent threats to their security and China as the lesser concern.
That is why the newly elected Indonesian President visited China first to build up the TRUST culminated by fmr President Joko Widodo.
USA strategy of naval blockade at SCS and now Strait of Malacca haa failed miserably.
ASEAn wanted a region of peace and non alignment but US has been pressuring them to choose a side but it backfired hence the tilt to China.

you look like
John Krasinski or
John Krasinski looks like you :D

Selectively didn't mentioned how CIA funded and supported the 1965 massacre lol sure dude

wonderfully delivered narratives.

shamelessly helping Israel in Palestine war because apparently "they had issues & unfinished business" with muslim people back in the past

the whole US reasoning behind the war is just hilarious. getting buttkick at Vietnam-Iran war and they wanted revenge. they starting to lose trust from allies that they had to relying on media to steer the narrative & their propaganda. dumb, egoistic, butthurt, envyness, hatred, revenge. they're so embarrassing

im Indonesia people

my great grandfather and one of his daughter (my grand-auntie) was victim to the mass murder just because they were chinese and talk hokkien, who people often mistook for mandarin

racism and oppression toward chinese descent was really severe during Soeharto's reign
even now, 26 years after his downfall, our government is still haunted by his cronies and that outdated ideologies

this in turn, cause many chinese descent to be china's fanatic worshipper

we'd immediately go study and work in china, taiwan or even singapore when served a chance
anything to leave indonesia behind once and for all
unfortunately for me, i just don't have the money for it, lol

Indonesia always got the "bebas aktif" (tl: Free & Active) policy since it's foundation, it's also one of the founding member of the non block movement

so fuck both sides we don't give a shit we ball

I think we'll join china (for now) since one of our biggest allies is getting attacked by a country, and the us is supporting them

如果美国想打仗为什么不直接找中国？牵扯那些无辜国家有什么意义？

Indonesia will be wise to listen to political scientist John Mearsheimer, No country on earth should trust Americans. Or Kissinger, to be an enemy of US is dangerous, to be a friend is fatal. Don't make the mistake of many EU countries, like Germany. The CIA blew up enemy Russia's LNG and left friend Germany without power, collapsing their industries. Germany
realize their mistake and no longer bow to the US. But its a bit late.

How can you have researched all that Info and then put a flag of 🇩🇰 Denmark(!) instead of the Netherlands 🇳🇱 in your graphics! 😂

No there're not because they have debts from china 😅😂

Really great video and analysis of Indonesia! Indonesians also have another sayings: "It is better to have rain of stone in our own country rather than to have rain of gold in other countries".
So Indonesians generally rarely leave the country forever, most just studying abroad or working then they will come back eventually. A lot of Indonesians abroad are forced by past regimes (Soeharto era) to do so, they can't go back to the country so they have no choice. Without those, I believe Indonesians diaspora will be even smaller.

I agree that most of Indonesians doesn't really think US or China as ally in terms of military or even economic one. Most of us regard them as partner. Like president Jokowi said, we welcome anyone who wants to invest. Indonesians have been taught since elementary school of our stand in International politic: Free and Active. Free in a sense that we will never ally ourselves with other power and active in terms of creating more peaceful world. So I believe it is ingrained in our brain.

friends of everyone but enemies to none.

crazy thing is i live in indonesia

As the people currently stands, Western alignment for Indonesia is somewhat unlikely since Indonesia is majorly muslim and openly rejects relations with Israel and aligns themselves with Palestine. US involvement in Middle East might make things difficult, as the people would reject the relations between the two governments. As of China, as it currently stands the people has much more favourable opinion of China than the US, therefore alignment with China is more likely than the US

With China rising, you're going to have to pick and stand on one side or get yourself strong enough to try fight China alone.
ASEAN countries are not capable to fend off a Chinese invasion and trust me, after Taiwan, they're next.
The South China Sea is already a goner at this point and ASEAN can't even do anything about it.
The common Chinese civilain perspective on Singapore and Malaysia nowadays is they're going to be a part of China sooner or later regardless if they like it or not, with hopes of reunifying Okinawa first and mainland Japan later. Vietnam, they'll bow down later to their strong commie big brother and the Philippines is a joke. Leave South Korea to Kim to rule and they'll bow down to China in the end.
Don't ask me what the CCP fed to their people, that's the sentiment the common Chinese folks had on the world these days.
The sentiment is getting so close to the Third Reich that if you swap a swastika on the Chinese flag right now it won't look any different to 1933.

indonesia air force has rafales, sukhois, f-16s, gonna buy f-15s, super tucanoes...it's really the ace combat air force in real life hehe...

we know US is creator of world problem