Skyrim - The SECRET Pasts of the Dark Brotherhood - Elder Scrolls Lore

The dark brotherhood characters are some of the most vomit inducing cringe in games

Honestly, I would really love to see any faction in the future where I don't become the guildmaster or some form of inconsequential leader. It's so pandering; I don't need the game to suck my ego off. If TES VI is actually implementing a kind of political system, it might actually add some intrigue to leading a faction. I'd love for there to be mandatory meetings and decisions to maintain guild rep and acceptance as leader.

If I finish the Thieve's Guild questline and bugger off for weeks of in-game time, I'd love to be demoted or have to work my way back up. Essentially, make a guild/faction permanently relevant for the course of the game, even past the completion of its quests.

I sometimes get Hammerfell and Hammerfall mixed up. One is a fictional country and the other a kick ass Swedish heavy metal band .

Krex likes to waltz right up to his target, introduce himself and melt their face off with a sick guitar solo.

Anyone think about the fact that the LDB is very new to Skyrim, and finds aventus through bar rumours yet the DB and astrid hadn’t heard of it? I wonder how seriously astrid took her job

Important to note you go on in the beginning about Mephala but Mephala isnt the Night Mother. The lore across the games is meant to be various unreliable points of views of the authors you cant believe but in Oblivion you definitively see and learn the Night Mother's origin and you learn where she was buried and even talk with her spirit. The true origin of the Night Mother is the story of the Dunmer woman of Bravil who begot Sithis 5 children and delivered them to the void. You learn she is buried under the Lucky Old Lady statue in Bravil and even see the bones. The Dark Brotherhood never worshipped Mephala only Sithis and the Night Mother, you are confusing Morag Tong lore with Dark Brotherhood lore. In summary Mephala doesnt predate Sithis and Sithis chose the Dunmer woman of Bravil long after Deadra came into being negating any contradicting lore

Cicero is my fav charcter hes uneeck
In his own way

I mean astrid killed like Ll the memebers her brother and even her husband shes a fucking monster

Dude i love the dark brotherhood i sall the titul of this vid and fote i have to wach this

With Mephala being so tied in with the Morag Tong and the Morag Tong's hatred of the Dark Brotherhood, I don't think Gabrielle has any connections to Mephala

the brotherhood is necessary evil the reason Titus Mede II is dying and Goldbrand has left him

Where was the Black Hand during Skyrim?

I would love to see Babette in future games still alive and well in the dark brotherhood

Arnbjorn, His race! His hair! His beard! His black clothes! His axe! PURE HEAVY METAL!!!!

You know nothing, a crochet needle is about a foot long, Sorry, the accent, about a third of a meter long you wanker. If you get a unicorn right behind the ear, push towards the opposite eye, she'll never even make a sound. 🦄🪛👂👁

I think about this a lot.

"When I first received the blessing of the wolf, my creator gave me a valuable piece of advice. "Arnbjorn," he said. "Never lose!" And I never do."

Me: Hey, Goofball!

Cicero: YES, LISTENER!

Me: Marry me...

Cicero: Oooh Listener! Can't you see that's impossible???

Me: ...so you wish to invoke the wrath of Sithis, do you...

"Day of my hatching"??? I thought argonians were born live? Or was that ret-con'ed?

Fun fact: you can actually find Babette in every single elder scrolls game, although she is only able to engage in dialogue in Morrowind, Oblivion & Skyrim

Holy shit
Babette has REALLY seen some shit

In my game Cicero looks more like Harley Quinn .

It would have been kinda cool for the Dragonborn to bring together the dark brotherhood and the morag tong since both groups are barely holding themselves together. It could have been a really cool quest for the expansions to have us join both groups back together or eradicate them since they are trying to kill you. Idk I think it would be cool or something like this

Hang on a second... Gabriella is lying. She couldn't have stabbed a unicorn with a crochet needle, because there's no such thing as a crochet needle. Crochet is done with a hook, not a needle...and what would a knitter be doing with a crochet tool anyway? Knitting and crochet are totally different arts. Yes, it's possible that a person can do both - my wife does, she's the one I consulted on this "Well akshually..." - but she specified knitting.

Is Cicero an example of 'mantling', but on a smaller scale? Meaning not mantling a hero or god, but just another mortal.

I ALWAYS thought the spider belonged to Babette

The real mystery is how on earth they are considered assassins when all they do is sit in the sanctuary and make me do all the dirty work for them.

So Cicero was the adoring fan in oblivion??

Also, if the Last Dragonborn is a werewolf when they join the Dark Brotherhood, they have a unique lines of dialogue with Arnbjorn, remarking that you are "moonborn, you are wolf." and hopes you have better luck with them than he did.

It stinks that Festus Krex isn't a Destruction Trainer, just imagine, the spells the Last Dragonborn could have learned from him! probably something similar to the Enemies Explode spell during the Mages Guild questline in Elder Scrolls: Oblivion. It would have been BADASS to learn the spell that can turn enemies inside out! Then, you could have used said spell to turn Commander Maro inside out!

Hey Scott, do you think that the Skyrim Dark Brotherhood is/was the final sanctuary? I mean since there’s 2 sanctuaries and only one survived

"In truth, I'm no more a little girl than you are."

Man, I hope the child actress (well, she was 10 at the time) that voiced that line got paid handsomely, for that line alone is absolutely priceless. It gets me every time.

My hunch is that come TES VI, Aventus Aretino will be leading the Dark Brotherhood

One of the brothers at the three brothers trade goods in the IC market district is named Cicero. Doubt it’s related, but not a very common name.

Tbh night mothers a dumb bitch, shes imo the main reason for the modern dark brotherhoods downfall

When I first played Skyrim I hated cisero cause I found him creepy and weird. But then I learnt more about him and now he's one of my favourite characters cause his story is so tragic

"I once took a seaside stroll, on a moonlit night, and discovered a unicorn (should be "an". Phonetic writing doesn't include subtitles)... which I proceeded to stab in the throat with a crochet needle". So it wasn't Voldemort drinking the Unicorn's blood. It was Gabriella.

And that’s why I murdered the Adoring fan to death.

Other guild endings: 1-3 people die and it's usually their leader


Dark brotherhood questline: almost everybody dies and you are left to rebuild again with the last remaining 2-3 members

that dark motherhood is a pathetic bunch of idiots . I didn't like their story in skyrim at all. plus the fact that once you join them or proceed far enough in their questline some random ass guard walks up to you saying something along the lines like "hey, you and the dark brotherhood...I know! heil sithis!" wtf? shouldn't they be a secret organisation shrouded in mystery?
same goes for the thiefs guild. from minute one stepping into rifton I've heard the term thiefs guild 3-4 times in the first minute being there. everybody seems to know where they hide and nobody cares about doing something against it...I never understood why those guilds where so poorly implemented into the game :/

Erik Dellum's voice is great and i'm glad you let it play out.

I call bs on the unicorn kill the one from Oblivion was not an easy kill

How did Astrid get control, I wonder? She doesn't look all that old - she can't have been in charge that long.

I always kill Cicero I just find him annoying

I'm more of a Morag Tong kinda gal.

Gabriella is definitely not insane. She was just being sarcastic and making a joke. I actually believe she’s very intelligent and collected.

Jesus, Bethesdas writing... cringe city

I have a fun little theory in regards to that story Babette is telling when you first enter the Sanctuary. The man she describes was actually Uncle Sweet Share from the Morrowind Blood Moon expansion. I mean the dude was a creepy fucker, who like to deliver "candy" to children. With that I'm inclined to believe she spent 100 years living in Solstiem before or after she joined the Dark Brotherhood.

(This was a modded playthrough) if you have a Marry Anybody mod, and you marry Veezara, two strange things will happen. Firstly, Gabrielle actually attends your wedding, in full Brotherhood robes, and congratulate you on your marriage. Where that one is weird is I'm on PS4, no external assets allowed. Secondly, if you adopt children while married to Veezara, the npc children will continue to mention things about "how daddy took them fishing today" and all those other voicelines from a normal unmodded playthrough AFTER THE sanctuary is destoryed. Anyone else find the Gabrielle bit confusing? I've never heard her mention that voiceline in vanilla, but my console doesn't allow new textures, scripts or voices, so... yeah

I miss Vazeera... Poor lizard :'C