Blizzard Said Sorry… Then Timegated Visions Anyway

But how can you all think this is not a planned marketing strategy? Subscription-based content is all based on frustration: timegated content, timegated loot, timegated events... It's all about finding the balance between satisfaction and frustration.
You're experimenting frustration now.
If it was REALLY a problem to a signifiant number of leaving players, they wouldn't do it. They have the numbers, they see people are frustrated, but players ain't leaving. Money keeps flowing.
Stop believing PR stunts in interviews. You're better than this.

u fighting 4 a dead corpse i will never coming back lets play rust
blizzard give a f... about their customers but he the 5 ppl in the forum are happy

Thank god im able to sustain of Wow tokens for anything in the bnet shop. Imagine spending actual money for these patches.
Feels like I am mostly playing wow now trying to get Games like Doom for free

"We need to do better." -- Guess the expansion when Ion said this? Timer's up, it's every expansion since Legion and now nearly every patch lol

They never learn and as a result I never renew my sub

i was asking the same thing yesterday : maybe it s really time to stop WoW, i love but at each patch there s something timegate somewhere and it s like : it s like, ok, you love our game even if we always give only a preview and never the entire game. 😢

Another, simpler thing is… the visions this time are so much easier than the original ones. To a point that it becomes a mindless grind for tribute upgrade lol

sick to death of blizz timegating and limiting things like currencies. treat us like children instead of letting us play. had enough of this gaming model, it's been their preferred direction for many expansions now

All the complaints mean nothing when data shows people are still playing

Time gated content and the possibility of addons being removed in the future, this game is going downhill.

It's so players still play WoW but will feel inclined to go play other games, possible Blizzard/Microsoft games. So people don't just spend a limited amount of money on WoW and THAT'S IT. Average gamer will typically become fatigued from one game then switch to another game... So it's a tactic to increase profits across all gaming companies, and/or their titles. So If you don't experience fatigue from grinding visions and misc wow content, you are timegated to remind you that you can play another game and potentially pay to win or pay to skip grinds... Maybe not all the employees know about this, and maybe they are given/assume a "less" scummy reason behind it idk. Regardless, EVEN IF THATS NOT WHAT THEY INTEND THATS WHATS HAPPENING, bet.

get used to it

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The game is gone, they cant make good stuff anymore. Every patch is comming something even worse.

This season is going on too long to be timegating the way they're doing. With them gating the myth track items with the currencies a couple weeks ago and now timegating the .7 content it feels like they're really scrounging for engagement. I was loving the season but my mains goals were completed and they're making the alt/catchup stuff lame so I'm just done for now. See yall in season 3

Thank you for doing a video on this topic, this makes me quit the game, already in season 1 with the catchup ring, being timegated it was a joke, now the same with horrific visions.
I don't get the timegate on minor patch content, i just wanna play and enjoy the content, but no, you subscribe one month, to get fucked, and actually can play 1 week from your subscription, when everything is out. Even more the timegate of PATCH CONTENT.
What the fuck ? "We have more content for you" yeah sure nobodys does the mid patch content except if it gives actual upgrade, like the ring or the visions. But nop we can't have fun in this game anymore.
Or you have fun the last patch of the xpac. So there is no point to play during the xpac, only the beginnning to live the start, and the end so you can do the entire xpac with all the content.

PS: I forgot the bullshit dinars too that you need to wait 2 months to get all your dinars, when the season will be over for the new one, what a joke

The irony is that people hated horrific visions in BfA and now they're back.

I would comment , but you will have to wait until next week for the first part of my comment. Will post the rest over week 2 an 3. Final zinger will come week 4; wait for it!

I'm surprised guys you did not quit this game yet. The game in current state has nothing to do with Warcraft anymore, beside some well-known names of characters and cities.

Gameplay is generating PTSD and ADHD, the systems are more complex than taxes in my country and graphically..well it looks like shitty anime-based game.

I hope you are enjoying it though and not playing it due to a stockholm syndrome.

Cheers.

I hate time gated stuff just as much as the next guy, but I'll never understand people that unsub due to this... like... let's say the talent tree is not gated, the masks are no gated, you can do everything at max difficulty, giving you 2-3 days worth of content. Then you'll still have to go back to what you were (if there was something) doing until now and if there was nothing you would unsub anyway... I can understand unsubbing for various reasons, but time gated stuff just ain't one of them. PS: still remove time gating cuz it sucks ass :D

i unsubbed coz no content. would have played more if i had content. and now i dont resub for some mini patch inbetween lol. would have played if released. no idea what they are thinking hahahaha guess they dont want my money

Here is the cycle: board of directors want it this way, developers don't want it but are forced to put it in anyway, wait for a large community push-back to show the board players don't like it, fix it.

Simple explanation no content 😂

Everyone in my guild was frustrated after finding out this also timegated. Nothing but negative vibes for something that could have been so much fun.

Addons being killed, extreme timegating, game getting more and more broken every patch.. smh

I feel like Blizzard tries to make all the content like an expansion launch when in reality, we OVER-invest in expansion launches because they are a huge deal but then when it comes to content patches, the level of desired investment into story or run around bullshit is very low. I will gladly spend 12-15 hours in story content and run around bullshit at the start of the expansion, but not in a mid expansion content patch.

My biggest complaint in Undermine is the absolute ridiculousness of the amount of yellow quests in the zone. I did them all on one character and said "never again" on any of my other characters. It wasn't fun. This translated into my desire to do the 11.1.5 content at zero. Even before the bugs, I didn't even touch the storyline and wanted nothing to do with it.

Do you know what makes me keep playing? Having a choice of things to do, not playing the thing Blizzard have decided I’m playing that week.

Time gated content with catch up gear as the primary reward when you have had access to the same ilevel gear since beginning of season 2. It’s so absolutely mind blowing pointless on every level.

IRL work and family stuff is cutting back my play time the last few weeks. The few moments I would have to get online I find myself choosing to do other things instead. Nothing is making me want to log in to WoW and all this recent news is actually making me lean away from it

These awful so-called retention gimmicks have made me quit WoW 2 times in less than 18 months. Quit DF season 4, came back this season and again walked away last week. Just can't do this dumb-ass weekly capping of progress garbage any more.

Go woke, go broke - Basically

I swear to God, I’ve been praising Blizzard for over 12 years. Back then, I truly believed they were the best when it came to making games. But for the past season, I swore I’d boycott Blizzard entirely.

The game launches at full price, and then they charge €13 a month. I finish the new content in about three weeks — no problem, I think, I’ll just play a few alts for another month or two. That doesn’t seem like anything crazy. But somehow, it still ends up pushing me to switch games or cancel my subscription.

Now I find myself asking: why? Why can’t they impress me anymore? Why aren’t they setting standards like they used to? Legion was something I could grind for a whole year and still enjoy — everything after that just felt stale. Nothing compares.

Timegating, content droughts, balance issues — sometimes better, often worse. I realized something really sad this past year: I told myself, “It’s okay if the game doesn’t bring anything new. It’s okay if it doesn’t get better — as long as it doesn’t get worse.” Isn’t that crazy? Why shouldn’t the game be getting better? Why am I playing the same tired content again and again without real innovation or excitement?

I know people criticize changes in WoW, but that’s because most of those changes have been done so poorly — so poorly, in fact, that it feels like they’re sabotaging the game on purpose. Honestly, I don’t think a single system in the game is in a good state right now. Not Mythic+, not raiding, not PvP. Every aspect is struggling.

And people just accept it — out of fear that it could get even worse. At least, that’s what I did. But not anymore. I’m not coming back until they restore the undeniable glory that the name Blizzard once held. Maybe it won’t hurt them that I’m leaving — but I know I’m not alone. And maybe you, reading this right now, should think about your role too.

Maybe leaving is the only way we get real change. Either BE Blizzard — or let the company die.

Im just unsubbing, uninstall done

You dont like what they do to the game, stop playing it. Vote with your wallet.

ive started timegating my sub as well

Blizzard relies too heavily on RNG and timegating in game design

If you want the game to improve quit playing it. These systems and time gating exist because they know their game is not fun and they need to keep you paying.

New wow model for players = buy expansion in final month of expansion...farm for a couple catchup weekends till expansion drops. Play for a month...quit for a year. Rinse, repeat. Its honestly become the only real way to actually enjoy the game. Carrot on a stick got old like ten years ago.

I quit a month or two ago. Season 2 wasnt fun to me. I went hard in S1. Was looking forward to this event but ill wait another week or 2 before i think about resubscribing.

This patch has been one big miss after another first we get the buggy almost unplayable nightfall event which sure gives alt some champion gear catch up then we get horrific visions which was delayed and gated on top of that then we have to wait for dastardly duos I don’t mind these things being in the game but it’s somehow too much but also no enough at the same time with so many Avenues then ever before to gear characters I’m not exactly chomping at the bit to get my hands on veteran gear yet my banks are filled with the stuff, on top of that we get a catalyst charge every two weeks which if someone wanted to unlock multiple tiers of appearances this now requires multiple characters to complete there’s been efforts to make this game more alt friendly then ever before but they make all these asinine choices around this to make it really difficult to play said alts while I like the upgrade system I wish the currency was much more simpler and fully warbound what happened to respecting my time blizzard?

Saving people from themselves HAHA Go touch grasssss

Why are they timegating delayed content in the patch, and the content itself is only rehashed content with recolors that I have already fully completed 5 years ago. Complete fucking tone deaf dev team

Gilded crests, while not having a cap, only 2 chest per week, that's a gate no doubt about it. Turbo not turbo. Hero gear already gated behind the 3 week Cartel Chip, so why gate the upgrade process, make no sense. 1 HOUR cooldown on the Delve-O-Bot 7000 - WHY Blizzard WHY!? I think right now, the game is in the best state it's been for a long time, but some of this gate nonsense still bother me.

I swear they are absolutely terrified that people will stop playing if they don't have a way to get people to log in every single day in order to feel like they are not falling behind. I no longer have the time to play like I did in vanilla so it would be extremely fantastic to have full access right away. There are way more people that are not mythic raiders or high key M+. Why is every single thing that is supposed to be an enjoyment is being changed to satisfy 0.009% and give the middle finger to the remaining 99+%? Watch them end up time-gating housing so can stand in the yard and watch it being built over the course of 3/4 of an expansion. Don't even get me started on seasons being in a style of game that at its core not designed for seasons, yet another way to keep people logging in every day to compensate for a hard reset of everything. Oh yeah, if you are not in the 0.009%, screw all of the currency and progression you were trying to build up. There were 2 reasons I came back to WoW was that dragon flight looked pretty good and my friends are stuck in addiction that is WoW. Your right, I'm a stinking casual but guess what, my sub is every bit as important as the 0.009%.

Blizzard only wants to piss off the community on a weekly basis

mfs said sorry not sorry

Have to keep the monkeys distracted enough to keep paying the monthly subscription

Blizzard could care less, save your rants everyone.. they talk statistics and this is thebway to go to keep players logging in. Dont like it? Simply dont patticipate and that will take effect.

The day someone from blizz slips up and calls us "Customers" instead of "Players" will come soon.

Preach king