THE SHINING - return of the hag !!! (another previously missed subliminal)

Happy new year folks. A quick vid here I wrote a few weeks back. Still working on my game at the mo. (Please leave your replies about the video content as separate comments. Thanks.)

When will people realize THE SHINING movie is about 9-11?

I think those simple scenes were meant to disorient us due to their sheer simplicity. We subconsciously look for creepy things in them because of the score and atmosphere, even if there are none, and thus creep ourselves out in anticipation. Lynch does very similar things in his work and I love it. I do agree the hag/stewardess likely had a link. Clearly Kubrick is making some subliminal connection between Hallorann, the naked women and the plane, or he wouldn't include all those details. Plot-wise, Hallorann doesn't "need" to be in the final scenes at all since he gets killed off, so Kubrick was definitely trying to mess with us somehow.

It's a foreshadowing of laughing death before his death at the Overlook Hotel.

Also, funny odd name for a hotel with a lot of deaths or murders being over looked. And also funny, cause that's what a Caretaker does. They over look the care of things.

Good catch! I was focused more on the female passenger next to him. From the angle, she does appear to have similar facial features of the bathtub young woman but whats more interesting about her is the magazine shes reading thats featuring young women modeling. Im not sure if theyre nude but may be in lingerie. This seems to parralell not only the dick holloran scene but wasn't Jack reading a Playgirl magazine before his job interview? I wonder what Kubrick is trying to communicate here with the lust here or is it some throwback to Siren myths? Kubrick was very well educated in classical mythology and Carl Jung (whose referenced in Full Metal Jacket).

I almost wanna wish for a music score only track on the next format to come along.

What is the significance of the woman above Halloran's bed?

Excited for your work on the game! I've been looking into getting into game development myself and I think such a brilliant mind as yours will yield interesting results in whatever you create; I can already see that in your current project, very excited to see it progress! Happy new year!

Accidentally foreshadows Doctor Sleep having the ghosts leave the hotel to cause trouble elsewhere too.

The hag was based on Stephen King's wife.

Interesting thoughts! But Rob, please, never do that laugh again!

..is it possible that scatman was using his shining to create the hag to attempt to kill jack to save danny????? apparently jack has the shining too, its a theory anyways, and it would make sense. i still feel like it HAS to do with the shining whether my hypothesis is right or not because of the heart beats.

"she looks like a healthy, living version of the bathroom hag"

No she does not

Rob, love your videos, but you've jumped the shark here. 😂

Rob, love your videos, but you've jumped the shark here. 😂

Sorry Rob, but this is pure reaching. I could've gotten behind your idea if you would've stated that the rug in 237 looks quite similar to the Logo on the Continental Plane. But this, no way.

Much of Halloran's journey is omitted in UK release.

Oh Rob! You’re hilarious…. That’s an incredible detail!

Geez, what more is there to analyze about The Shining?? 12 years later and Ager is still milking this movie. He's left no second unturned in the film. Not to mention he deletes comments and posts that politely go against his theories on social media.
Ager in 2050 : In the end credits of The Shining, there is a crew member named George. It's obviously a reference to George Washington. Is it a COINCIDENCE that Kubrick hired a man named George????

Rob, I do the same thing! I love putting on my favorites in the background while I work.

Just a thought...
Can you do a break down of
"Leave the world behind"?
The symbolism in that movie is off the charts.

What's wrong with the heart beat? yours would be too if a young woman came out of the bathtub

Thiink you're crediting too much to Kubrick. It's his connection to Danny that necessitates Kubrick's music cue between the characters

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You read far far far too much into this film, I bet Kubrick would piss himself laughing at these vids.

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The great Tony Burton is always nice to see.....

Stop calling my wife a hag, Rob.

The shot at the tv in Holleran's apartment or whatever, is really a view form his genitals. Of course, it's not really that low, but you can give a POV shot without include the body or a hint of the body in the shit (that's how it is most of the time) so putting the TV and the naked woman between his feet and legs is a choice.

Also, and this is just a quick thing that might not mean anything, but the lamps and the TV and framed image are all together making a kind of cock and balls. The placement of the lamps is somewhat strange, in generally but definitely for the time period, and most of it springs from between his legs.

You will find the same anxiety inducing sound score during an airline flight in the movie Sicario (2015)

Interesting…. But I’m not sold

the Wendy theory pretty much ended the debates and speculation for me.

Over reaching my guy

Could be that Kubrick could have been setting up fans of the book with an even bigger shock with the heartbeat sounds...?

I always considered this to be anxiety as Dick is wondering what is happening to the family.

“Lia Beldam” appears to be the actresses actual name and not a stage name used for this film but a “Beldam” is another word for an old witch, I wonder if Kubrick chose her specifically for her name? The definition of “Beldam” is “a malicious and ugly woman, especially an old one; a witch.” what a coincidence if she wasn’t chosen on purpose for that role in part because of her last name!

a genius losing the plot.

It's called "Impending Doom"

- used in thousands of movies.

Maybe Holloman killed the hag back in the day.
Revenge came calling..
Idk..

Anyone catch Rob reciting the script at the end of the video? When Jack was scolding Wendy after she entered the room where he was typing.

I actually thought the framed prints of the women in Halloran’s bedroom were inserted as a possible callback to the sexual imagery in A Clockwork Orange and Dr. Strangelove. I never thought that Kubrick wasn’t above adding little references to earlier works in his films, especially since if you look closely in the record store scene in Clockwork, when Alex is talking with the two ladies, you’ll see a soundtrack album for 2001 displayed at the counter. Also, the bathroom set in the Overlook ballroom looks somewhat similar to the furnishings of the space station in 2001. And maybe I’m reaching a little bit here, but the weird spatial layout of the Overlook, with its nonsensical rooms that don’t quite correspond with the architecture, almost reminds me of the cosmic “zoo” hotel room that Bowman found himself in at the end of 2001, where space and time contorted.

I think Lia Beldam is sitting next to Halloran on the plane, Lia has a very disticntive profile...As the camera first reveals her into view there is a chime sound, this happens again when she appears in view between Halloran and the stewardess...As Halloran turns to seek the stewardess a wailing ghostly sound starts, at the same time the girl next to him opens her mouth and looks like she's exhaling or inhaling but in a slightly unatural way for no reason other than to synchronize with the wail..

I think this is a bit of a stretch, but then again, it's said that nothing in a Kubrick film is an accident. Two things that are more curious to me in that scene is the mismatched panels of the interior of the airplane and the odd question he asks the stewardess. The plane scene was a set, specifically built for the film. So why is that panel a different color than the others? And who books a flight without knowing when the arrival time is? Why did he ask the stewardess this question?

One theory is he was testing to know if he was in a shine vision or if it was reality. Asking a question of someone when he knew the expected answer. Perhaps the music was to tell us that Halloran was having difficulty deciphering the difference between his shine, dreams, and the real world. That they were so strong with Danny's projections, he needed to know that what was happening was actually happening.

Or maybe it was just some very subtle foreshadowing of Halloran's ultimate fate a few hours later.

The Shining is a film that we WANT, or even NEED, to understand. But what I really think is that sometimes, things just happen on screen that don't have any deeper meaning. And that's the wonderful thing about art. It's personal. It's interpretive. And it can be discussed and debated for the end of time. Now that the creator is deceased, we can never know the truth about intention and motive and meaning. So we will continue to speculate and create our own narratives.

Nice laugh 🤣🤣

I believe the heart beat is that of the hotel itself. It is closely combined with the mix of other creepy sounds and suggests malevolence, as if the hotel is sort of “reviving” and gaining strength, particularly as it anticipates the sacrifice of Halloran and also (it hopes) Danny and Wendy. After Halloran dies is the immediate sound of rhythmic chanting as if the satanic spirit is now of the previously deceased other guests, almost suggestive of the weird chanting that Guy and Rosemary hear through their bedroom wall at the early part of Rosemary’s Baby (though in that film they were a very much alive coven of witches). The heart and chanting are the evil heartbeat of the hotel and it’s “damned” guests! Great Party, isn’t it!?

"They turned out to be completely unreliable assholes" - Scatman Crothers
Gets me every time😂

That would be extremely subtle. But it makes sense. The overlook is always watching. It was the helicopter shot watching the beetle. It could be on the plane or in Dick's mind or both.

I’m curious about the correlation of the pictures in Halloran’s apt., w the bathtub ladies. You said their poses in the photos was similar to them but this seems like a bit of a stretch, though I suppose the kneeling picture with very straight posture is sort of similar to the young one. Also I’m wondering, why would Halloran have two photos of women that somehow were symbolic of the evil in the hotel? He is aware of the evil in the Overlook but portrayed as a “good shiner” along with Danny. This supposed correlation just doesn’t make sense to me, in that it seems to sort of mix up a “good guy” Dick, with the evil. What’s the logic in that, I mean from the standpoint of Kubrick? What would be the point?