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how does the Trailsport AWD system compare to the Jeep Quadra trac 1 full time system?
Ответитьthe piece of crap overheated lol
ОтветитьWith Toyota still offering the 4Runner limited with a transfer case it’s a miss for this Passport or the Pilot. They definitely need a transmission cooling system if they are going to be used on serious inclines or getting stuck in mud.
Both are very nice vehicles nevertheless.
Pity about the underbody protection.
Great review.
Thanks Tommy, excellent overview.👍🏽 I just ordered this exact vehicle, different color, hopefully coming in around March or April, 2024!
Ответитьbasically, this is old passport. the new passport based off of 2023 pilot is yet to be released. that will be a monster for sure. I have a question. Elite 2023 is supposed to be top tier.. But when I read some of the Honda spec sheet. they keep saying Trail logic is only available on Trail sport. the elite does not have it? will you ever test Pilot elite 2023? I picked up Elite thinking eventually I can put 18 rims and tires, suspension and still enjoy all the extra bits elite offers... :(
ОтветитьThank you for the roller test.
Don’t buy a new Passport, when you can get a low mileage 2019, under $29,000. Then you can pick some 17” rims/tires, for your off-road needs.
Our 2023 Passport has the “fake” Firestone all weather tires, which work great in the summer, and proper Bridgestone snow tires for the winter. It is a great vehicle with excellent traction in real world conditions. The Passport’s instruction manual tells you the AWD will heat up with extensive use and makes no allusion to this being anything but a road going vehicle with mild trail use. It is a very comfortable and fast SUV, but fast passes on narrow roads or lane switching on rutted highways give cause for concern as there is a lot of body sway. So, neither a sports sedan nor an off-roader, simply a competent all weather family hauler.
ОтветитьA 20 valves v6 ? 3.33 valves per cylinder definitely isn’t a standard configuration 😅
ОтветитьI'm a Subaru bigot and here's why: Subaru will perform as well as this Honda without OVERHEATING. And the horizontally opposed boxer will be pushed under the passenger compartment in a full-on frontal crash, saving your life. This and every other non-horizontally opposed engine will intrude into the passenger compartment.
ОтветитьPlease Honda, never stop doing those exhaust tips. Add them to your new electric cars 🚙
ОтветитьTest Bronco Sport outer banks
ОтветитьI have the 23 Trailsport and it's trash as far as quality is concerned. A/C condenser-leaking, half shaft- leaking, sunroof- doesnt work properly, transmission- clunks and cant properly hold a gear, interior- rattles galore, engine- loud diesel knock which is written off as a "high pressure fuel rail" sound. Honda quality died several years back.
ОтветитьGreat review. I own a 2020 Passport Elite and love it. The AWD system is phenomenal. The only gripes I have are ones you’ve identified- the fuel economy is quite poor and the ride is fairly harsh.
Keep up the good work
The Honda Ridgeline 4wd system overheated also on one of yours guy's videos a few years ago.
ОтветитьAs a guy about the same age as your Dad, I was totally offended by that comment about the groaning. Maybe because it’s true, but that doesn’t matter. Us Boomers are people, too!
ОтветитьTerrible quality underneath it look like there will be big problems typical China junk
ОтветитьGreat vid, 24 valve v6
ОтветитьOverheat? MOD! Just install a oil cooler for the rear diff. Want more cooling add a fan to said oil cooler with a switch. Problem solved!
ОтветитьThe fact that the transmission overheated tells you that Honda did not put an extra cooler for the transmission like Subaru did. that's a big No-No that's why a Subaru is better if you're in an off-road situation
ОтветитьCan you please test the new sport pathfinder please
ОтветитьI really WANT to like it, but until Honda Engineers figure out that the Nav/Infotainment screen should be nearly vertical, and not leaning away from the driver, I just can't bring myself to take it seriously. We have a 2014 CRV and it has that problem - why can the engineers see it's a poor design and fix it?
ОтветитьAlmost had me sold until it overheated... 😐
ОтветитьAmen. That's why i love my Ridgeline trucks...waiting for trailsport edition even though disappointed not more was done to design and features.
Ответитьyeah... That 3.5 + 9 speed auto are quite dated...
When I was choosing the new car earlier this year, I test drove Passports (Elite and Touring) along with Ridgeline RTL-E, but they felt larger than desired for my wife (she drives as well). So we considered smaller SUVs like CR-V and RDX. RDX was kind of "luxurious" (as my wife felt), so we ended up with CR-V.
My point here is - CR-V has a very decent mileage, even non-hybrid trims. We have around 33 mpg. And the fuel economy isn't the strongest side of large N/A engines (especially with not-so-fuel-efficient automatic transmissions).
Still - Ridgeline is what I preferred the most, very decent truck all round (obviously, not for off-road or any crazy stuff, just for living). But CR-V covers ~80% of all desired tasks with much better (~x1.5) fuel economy =).
Violent engagement that spun the tire and overheating, yet it's still a great system???
Ответить20 valve? Surely you meant 24 valve.
ОтветитьI like that they still have the V6. & hope they keep it. I have a 2019 Ridgeline .& love the V6 You get nice heat in the winter much faster then a 4cyl.
ОтветитьIn snow and on dirt roads (like the Monument Valley 17 mile drive) I noticed my Subaru Legacy burns more fuel. I certainly don't get AWD overheating though.
Ответить🗑 for overheating
ОтветитьThe front end is huge. Reminds me of an Ascent.
ОтветитьI like a lot about it! I still say that a gear selector in a console is just a waste of space. Id much rather have a cup holder or cubby of some sort in its place. Column shifters are a better solution than taking console space
ОтветитьToo bad they don't make a CRV with that system 😭
ОтветитьI'm so impressed watching this I'm actually shocked like really shocked I've always believed the Subaru made the best all wheel drive systems for vehicles that are not 4 x 4 and that don't have a low range
ОтветитьQUESTION: WHY HAVE YOU NOT TESTED THE NEW CROSSTREK WILDERNESS EDITION? OR DID I MISS IT?
ОтветитьHonda might have accidently set the new standard with the Pilot Chicken Point Trail field day. Tommy does a great job trying to keep the comparisons fair, but using the mountain as the standard the true reality would shine.
ОтветитьJust get a Subaru.
ОтветитьGreat report. The Trailsport is impressive. Honda needs to make the Trailsport more widely mainstreamed throughout the Passport and Pilot lineup, at least with the upper trims.....ie, make it a sub trim/package to get more interior and feature selections with the great mechanical bits,.... so that you can get the capability on more trim levels. Or, at least be able to option the current Trailsport fully up with all interiors, features... maybe some packages to that effect. The orange trim pieces, especially the headrest logo, labels, etc, and exterior badges need to go or be toned back. They're channeling Subaru a bit too much. Thankfully they haven't been bitten by the goofy wheelwell cladding bug. Also, broken record but sad Honda is so solidly married to the fakakata shifter. Have had several opportunites to rectify and and get us back a regular shifter,.. refresh and redesign points with these and many models throughout their lineup when they could have made the change back. I'm sure now "I kinda like it" and the time-honored low bar "You can get used to anything" fanboys will now weigh in to the contrary, but I know of no one that likes that.
++1 - Yea! to finally see in T-Rex captains chair front armrests go to the dustbin! Never a good feature.
I have a 2019 Passport, don't see much reason to change to a 2024. Once the redesign comes through though, then maybe. Though I'm pretty sure the new V6 in the Pilot lost the VTEC (MDX still has it), so that seems like a bit of a step backwards to me.
ОтветитьTommy doesn't know about driveshaft loops. 😆
ОтветитьJust a shame about the monobrow....on the Honda not Tommy 😂
ОтветитьI had to recover one this past summer. It had paper plates still but was no match for the sand. It wouldn't lock up the wheels and started to overheat.
ОтветитьStill waiting for them to add the 10spd auto to get better highway mileage.
ОтветитьArmrest connected to the seat is usually much more comfortable. Too bad it’s gone.
Saying that, Honda did a great job worn Pilot and Passport. I wished it was available outside of North America as well 😢
Overheating message you get on the screen is only because Honda decided to add this feature to make you aware of high temperatures of the drivetrain, it doesn’t mean passport gets higher temperature than other crossovers, it is just that other manufacturers did not add this feature so you will just keep on offroading with overheated differential on other vehicles but you will not receive warning massage. With Passport at least you would stop and make it cool down so I think its more positive rather than negative.
ОтветитьFor me a Off road oriented vehicle w/o tow hook is not a off road vehicle
ОтветитьI'm not too fond of the artificially high hood. The cool and tough feeling you get from looking like a truck won't help you when you get sent to prison for vehicular manslaughter.
ОтветитьDon't forget that the Pilot and MDX have the most updated version of the SH-AWD which probably has more tolerance for overheating. This 2024 Passport and it's 2024 RL cousin are virtually unchanged when it comes to the drive train, unfortunately. Baffling why Honda didn't at least give one of them a proper redesign this year.
ОтветитьI had a ‘21 passport And I always went off road in sport, first gear, and never saw that overheating warning
Ответить8.1” ground clearance, less than my Subaru, so no reason to switch; seems like a silly miss.
Also, why are manufactures still leaving the CAT unprotected, or worst, out in the open.
Love the styling for a decently capable cross over