I shot with "BUDGET" Cinema Lenses for 1 year - Here's what happened

Excellent work

It's wild. I come from the complete different side of that, just used autofocus which really REALLY works for the first time on a project this year. Love it and hate it at the same time

A very conservative lecture that I would have found good years ago.
However, the vexed topic is again that cameras and certain lenses make better films. Especially if they are manual and "blurred". This is fundamentally wrong!!! They're just tools! I would even say that apart from resolution and dynamic range, you can create any look afterwards. And yes, this depends on the lens and camera. With the continued development of VFX, anamorphic lenses will no longer be necessary.
My opinion: With a high-resolution camera and "sharp" lenses you can also get "blurry" images in the post. The other way around is impossible.
In order to achieve the results of this video, you need someone who knows and can use his tools. Ultimately it doesn't matter whether the lens has autofocus or not. With some tools you can reach your goal faster and easier, but this no longer has anything to do with the end result.

Great breakdown of photo vs. cine lenses. I have been looking for a video like this for a while now!

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These are not budget, rokinons are

Are you getting the Sirui lenses on indiegogo?

Wow budget lenses and they’re like 1,000$

I agree with some points in the video, however, I prefer to have autofocus in my lenses.
I can easily switch to manual focus and act like I own cine lenses if the occassion arises.
True, there are some image characteristics that won't be the same if I used the cine lenses, but most of them I can fix in post, and have more flexibility later if I decide I want to go for a specific look instead of already having baked image from cine lenses.

Hey! Great video...really appreciate everything you said, especially since I'm on the "buyer's platform", should I leap into the cinema lens? I really appreciate the "nudge" to go ahead and jump...thanks Bro.

Ryan, absolutely great content!
I have two questions if you don’t mind. 🙏🏻

What follow focus system would you recommend for a run and gun scenario for a starter in cine lens? A manual one like the pocket tilta oe something motorized like the nano?

And, I don’t know if you tried the Meike lenses. Would you recommend the DZO over them? I don’t know what to decide.

Again, thank you for this content everything you said in this video has helped me a lot.

No autofocus a red flag lol

What i understand with budget lens is a whole set for like $1500 not $1500 per lens

LMFAO!

"No auto focus" haha so what? I used SLR Cine Magic lens, video out of these lenses good, but focus ring stopped work!!!!!!!

Amazing content. This exact set is next on my list. I will get the full set one day.

one of the mistakes I did a few years ago, was thinking I needed a new lens when ever a new one comes out. reminds me when I sold a nice older lens for the sigma 18-35 it was so sharp I had to create grading files to play down the sharpness, so you are right sharp lenses is not alway my taste but for me I do like to have alit the punch with my films. great content, I will get me a cinema lens soon

18-35 has been stuck to my Zcam s6 almost entire time I’ve had it - I have managed to soften and give it some character but it’s time to move on - focussed all my cash toward lighting and grip, need to give some attention to the glass !

great video! What PL to RF mount do you use/recommend?

What's your take on Samyang's Cine V-AF series?, Can the quality of it be considered as a cheap/budget cinema lens which also has a autofocus mode or does not count as such?

Right now, I am working on the VFX of an old project, that wi shot at a time before digital cinema cameras with S35 Sensors. We shot it 16 years ago an it was never finished and today, with unreal engine 5 i am able do finish the VFX. We used Arri Master Primes and they are amazing but extremely expensive. We got them sponsored by Arri it self and they deserve that the short movie will be finished. But even when digital cinema camera and DSLRs that could record video were more an more common in the beginning the autofocus was so slow and you couldn‘t count on it you had to use manual focus and it was a good school you hade to gone through.

I need some new glass im shooting with the sigma art 18-35 still

Found your vids for the first time. This is succinct, attractive, clearly informative, and not cheesy. Thanks, Ryan. We need more of this kind of stuff. - Brian Fannin

DUDE, great video! I def cant afford all 4 but man I'm going to pick up the 50 to start off with ^__^ thanks for the breakdownnn

Hey Ryan. Can I use a regular charger such as the REYTRIC Dual D-Tap (P Tap) Travel Charger to charge a CAME -TV V-Mount battery? Really need to know as I'm about to invest in a couple. Thank you.

""budget""

When I first switched to a cinema lens from the regular photo lenses most of us use the thing I liked the most was how imperfect the picture became, not as sharp as a razor but more soft and easier on the eyes. More cinematic if that is allowed to describe the picture quality.

Great look into the cinema lenses! I wonder if this is the same reason people love Leica lenses. The way a lens renders an image is so important.

What’s auto focus

Thanks for the video, well done. Different people will have different opinions about any of the points you make, but you have presented the material well. My gripe is this. Did DZO give you that set of lenses to keep? if so, you can not honestly say that the video is not sponsored. If that is the case, you should say that the lenses were given to you but that DZO has had no editorial control or expectations over your content. I have very little to no doubt that everything you have said in this video is genuinely your free opinion, but you should be clear with your audience about those potential conflicts.

I soften in post, either via Dehancer for pseudo film look or DFD for true organic qualities. But I want the purest signal possible from my camera, as I may use the footage for enlargements etc, and if I were to soften upstream via soft lens, diffusion filters, fog or just a pair of pantyhose, there would be no option to go back and add sharpness in post.

It's funny... Having shot a couple of features films and tv series I feel the opposite. I never used autofocus in my entire life until very recently, always had yo rely on Focus pullers to help me tell my stories and now that I'm seeing the potential of automated Focus I can say I feel liberated, I can do a Lot of very complex stuff quickly, get more coverage and have a Big palette of lens options to pick from and create distintct atmospheres.

Awesome video

These aren't "budget" lens, my guy...

you're like that guy who said "two words: MADE IN AMERICA"

It makes so much sense to me. Manual focus can feel so overwhelming at times. I took a photography class years ago in downtown Minneapolis where we learned inside and then went out around town as a group and shot. By the end of the day I knew my camera so much better. We all just need to take the time and practice more. Putting in the work is key. Great video, thanks Ryan.

I really enjoyed this video. It's not only about the lenses, but why cinematic manual focus is important.

Where you been homie? Been awhile since this!

just beautiful footage. I am absolutely smitten by those lens looks. They look gorgeous. Well done cinematography as well!

Amazing Video... I am actually looking into DZO... I recently Purchased a few Cameras... Towards the Canon EF System... Canon M > Canon R5c > BM Production 4k Global Shutter
DZO Vespid and Catta Zoom Set...

by the way... Your Description.. you used "Vepsid" instead of Vespid
also... You showcased on many occasions thru this video the Mattebox Filter by SmallRig but... You did not post the Link to Purchase. You only posted the "Tilta Mattebox"

Great video, as always, Ryan! Beautiful lenses!!! I’ve been shooting with the bmpcc 6K pro for more than a year using Samyang cinema lenses and I don’t feel the need of AF. I know Samyang aren’t even close to those ones in this video, but they have definitely thought me many things as a filmmaker. Thanks for this video 🙏. Cheers from Italy

Nice work always

I've owned the DZOFilm 35mm Vespid for about two years now and wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. We have so much control over the final output its seriously scary at this point. I first came into this brand while working as an associate producer on a film and I noticed the DP using them so I got curious, did some research and purchased my 35mm. Even on my old mirrorless A7RII it looked different instantly!! on my BMPCC 6K Pro its INCREDIBLE!!!!

I've been shooting client work in MF for so long that AF is just one of those things that becomes something you can use if you need it but honestly it's all just really preference. As you said with photo lenses, there's no one size fits all ...and that's true with the preference to shoot MF or AF.

Great review Ryan!!!

I'd think they were worth it too if I got them for free.

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