The ultimate protein episode: Nutrition scientist Don Layman, Ph.D. | mbg Podcast

Dr Layman looks great for a 73 year old man.

This guy looks like he used to be a child of the corn

Very informative video. Thank you.

Protein Geek

Thank you for this valuable dialogue.

I've considered intermittent fasting for the autophagy and mitochondrial health. I have lupus and am 66.

I came to this channel looking for Don Layman content specifically, and I was not disappointed! Outstanding interviewee.

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Good info!

Great interview but don’t ask a scientist to think or speak in pounds. It’s like asking us to speak in Pig English. Buy a calculator.

Thanks to Don's discussion of this topic with Peter Attia, I started to eat 3 eggs (most days) at breakfast. EDIT - this is only about 18g of protein, so not enough.

Lord God, quit switching from Kg to lbs to Kg. Just about all of us can divide/multply by 2.2. You aren't making things easier, sirs.

Excellent interview. Great information thank you

Intermittent fasting is not to lower your calorie intake but to lower your insulin while not eating.

It's nice to be given this info in 'Layman's' terms.

Ted claims that animal protein is an important aspect of human nutrition and has such a high level of satiety that it’s virtually impossible to overconsume it. Yet other camps claim that it’s way too way too easy to overconsume and that it damages the kidneys and liver.
Can someone please make sense of this extreme polarity???

Fantastic, in-depth interview. AWESOME❗️Thank you 👏👏👏

I wish the so-called smart people would give a straight answer instead of beating around the bush.

I fell asleep listening very interesting n’y I won’t eat meat anymore the nitrite is very dangerous salami and porc I don’t eat I am Jewish I don’t eat red meat anymore Sad that you’re not tells bg us what to eat instead

What is the summary??

Yes iam anti certain animals for exemple I don’t eat steaks anymore I don’t eat red meat anymore it’s dangerous I don’t care what some people say poor little animals all the blood all the suffering they go through to get into our plates well not for’me I won’t be able to go out with someone who eats red meat slaughter houses etc no way I do eat salmon fish oysters sardines avocados turkey white meat but now rarely because they kill turkeys too look at Djokovic he has so much strength and he is plant base but chicken soup is a great source and we of protein

Maybe small scup of beans and three cooked eggs on top of it

Great information. Thanks ❤

Thank you for asking about plant based proteins. I eat a whole food plant based diet (no processed food), but worry if I’m getting enough protein. I’m in my early 40’s and trying to build strength/muscle mass. Any conversations on the subject are very much appreciated. The whole food plant based world does not think animal protein is necessary… very confusing.

You don't get to be successful without risk. Investing grows your money quicker than anything. you can't work that many jobs to keep earning money. you gotta have some money sitting somewhere that's working for you. your job is to work to make the money and then you gotta get your money to work for you. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life...

Excess protein in the diet gets converted to glucose and contributes to FLD. Most people only need about 40-50 grams per day. Most Americans are eating double that.

Neither one of these two looks like the picture of health...definitely look older than their stated ages...

Interested in the authority/facts/science this was based on... best studies with hundreds of thousands of ppl don't support eating animal protein. Longevity, heart disease and especially cancer risk.

Why not just take BCAA supplements?

This was brilliant, that's why o subscribe to this podcast_ I've seen Dr. Layman on several other podcasts, but he was answering all the right questions here, for sure. So thank you, much appreciated.
Cheers from Portugal

For simplicity, let's stick to the metric system.

I love metric system. Give us a credit- we can understand it.

This guy is wrong. Cows finished is a CAFO emit more methane than grass fed cows. He is just wrong. Cows finished in a concentrated animal feeding operation (CAFO) generally emit more methane than grass-fed cows. This is because CAFOs often involve feeding cows a diet that includes grains and other processed feed, which can lead to higher methane production during digestion. Grass-fed cows tend to have a different diet that includes more natural forage, which can result in lower methane emissions. He is just wrong.

only 8 essential aminoacids, without histidine, which is non-essential.

This discussion is blowing me away! I am not eating enough protein! In my 70’s I need yo increase my intake from 50 grams. Day to over 100 grams a day! I have been misinformed all my life. Luckily I don’t have a weight issue but do exercise in order to maintain muscle mass!

whenever I eat more protein, I feel much leaner

Thx!

Not a peep about the meat industry and its cruelty to our fellow creatures.

You mentioned the need for protein and actually high amounts of protein in the diet, but if you compare this to the Blue Zone groups diet around the world, who live to be 100 years old or more, they typically have low protein in their diet or are all vegetarian. Can you explain this need for more protein vs these low protien groups that have proven low protein works for longevity????

So 200 grams per day is adequate for building and maintaining lean mass ?

Best interview EVER! What an abundance of great information, thanks.

It is easy to your get your protein from plants… This guy is either ignorant or he has been bought by animal ag…

Thanks so much for this high-quality conversation with this learned scientist. 😊

good Lord. 1KG is just 2.24 lbs. No one there has a calculator on their phone? Just multiply all the inputs by that. I do it every day, all day, on the fly. In a pinch just double it and then add a ~quarter of the input. Sheesh.

How much protein ? Gatheres and hunters ate mostly meats. A 80 kg male would probably need 3000 cal. a day on average. Thats 1,5 kg of meats with 20% fat and 20 % protein. (The high fat, is why we prefered to hunt big animals)..1,5 kg of meat is 300 G of protein. Or in this case 300 : 80 = 3,75 G /kg.. And this guy would get the recommended potassium + 5000 mg.. C vit would be about 45 mg (less carbs = less need for c-vit). Calsium needs could be meet by eating some bone. All other nutriens would be supplied by the meat and organs. PS ! on average Americans eat 8 times a day...Same as the lab rats on free eating.

Thanks Jacob! This might be the best interview of a health expert I've ever seen. You ask the right questions and then really listen and ask follow ups to get more specific answers from the speaker. And you challenge the speaker in a respectful, non-confrontational way when necessary. Speaking of which, Dr Layman provided such incredibly helpful information here. Esp the point about 2 Gs of leucine is what triggers muscle-protein synthesis. And how eating just a little protein (eg 15 Gs -- not enough to trigger protein synthesis) but then supplementing with some leucine does trigger it -- incredibly practical and useful advice. But here's my one issue with Dr Layman: At the end, he basically shows he's on the payroll of the conventional beef industry. How so? You extrapolated from something he said (that cows eat grass which they convert into essential amino acids) that suggests grass-fed beef is better for you. Layman then says "well that's a nuanced discussion" and proceeds to answer a different question, which is that grassfed cows take longer to raise and thus emit more methane into the environment. I'm like "so what??" The question wasn't about the environment, it was about what's the best food to feed cows so you get the most nutritional beef. So I'm viewing Layman's evasion as the answer -- grassfed is healthier and more nutritious (he described its profile as merely "different" than conventional beef -- guess he couldn't bring himself to admit conventional is worse). I presume he didn't want to admit this because his funders don't sell it. They sell conventional beef. Awesome. Good to know grassfed actually is better for us even though he tried to hide that from us. And at age 70 or whatever, definitely disappointing he's being less than honest in this part of his public commentary on healthy food choices.

Using soy do we have to be careful about the glyphosate we're consuming?

This guy says the exact opposite of Dr Christopher Gardner, who is also a nutrition scientist 🤦‍♀️