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You could argue that eastern block countries were conquered by the ussr or Russia and it wasn’t there fault
ОтветитьSo the least bad nations are those who don't have the power to commit something atrocious
ОтветитьThis comment section is an abyss of everything wrong with trying to put a moral label on your past. People will try to justify discriminatory practices or why their country sided with the nazis if we think of history on terms of 'bad' and 'good'. What we should do is not get in an argument but see what leads to what
ОтветитьI’m going to guess Fiji is safe from this list.
Ответитьtbh i found that china was way more democratic when mao zedong was alive than what it is now with that "socialist" fascist xi jinping
ОтветитьI'm disappointed that the Ottoman empires, Persian empire, and other middle east or arab or muslim groups were not mentioned in the conquering and enslaving first part. . they were the ones who sold the slaves to europeans and took millions up to middle east and north africa too. African nations and tribes also captured and subjugated weaker ones and sold them to the arabs and europeans too.
ОтветитьI feel like we are conflating "this country has done one or more bad things" and "this country owes its existence to atrocity".
ОтветитьOne important facet about this question is that the answer has the potential to change with time---there's no telling what the seemingly "innocent" countries' governments or societies could do in the future. The answer can even change if morality changes in the future, too.
ОтветитьCanada: what happened in ww1 stays in ww1
ОтветитьPerhaps a more realistic assessment could be made if we factored in how the abuses occurred in the context of what was expected at the time that they occurred. Not trying to excuse them, but trying to better understand
ОтветитьIs that Alfons Åberg/ Alfie Atkins I'm seeing in the background!!! :0
ОтветитьCanada and Sweden do NOT have good history, Canada committed a genocide of the indigenous population and Sweden had an imperialist monarchy
ОтветитьZetong
ОтветитьThe only people I've seen who seem to think that any country has a perfectly clean history are deluded Socialists who say that the USSR and its allies never committed any kind of atrocities. They seem to be the most willing to support bloodshed and horror out of any group of people I've ever seen.
ОтветитьIf you say that the decendants of victims of different crimes are guilt free, I would invite you to reconsider the countries in Eastern Europe that suffered under communist and nazi imperialism imposed on them by outside forces. No country chose to be invaded by Russian communists (whether they were eventually incorporated in the Soviet Union as a colony of Russia or whether they were kept as a vassal state) and no state chose to be invaded by the nazis to be incoporated in their empire either. Sure, some of these had land empires of their own (same thing as overseas empires minus the boats), but not all.
ОтветитьWait, people think that the people farthest away from from Africa are somehow more indigenous than the people they must have passed on the way? 😂
ОтветитьPuerto Rico? 🇵🇷 They’ve never really started a war or slaughtered any other group.
ОтветитьAmerica has the best history we have never done anything bad
ОтветитьFirst of all, all of history is about the strong conquering the weak. War, invasion, persecution, and exploitation have been a part of human civilization since the beginning. So no single nation or people are innocent. That's why all nations fail scrutiny.
And we should also discuss the idea of the likes of the Caribbean nations you talked about. And this also applies to the Pacific islands. If a nation has minimal population, it cannot be compared to larger nations. If you only have a few hundred thousand people, you don't have the same complexity of societal interactions that lead to negative actions. They're not real players in the larger world. And their independence is illusory.
So in conclusion, most of this kind of speculation is very myopic. Everyone has modern relativistic morality. Allowed by the peace and prosperity given to them by the 'evil American' hegemony.
Everyone chides the U.S. and Western Civilization in general for their past atrocities. And yes they do have them. But to act like the world would be a better place if it existed under nearly any other country, or ideology is laughable.
If nearly any other nation or ideology got the reigns of power, they would abuse it far more than 'American Imperialism'.
Civilization will always have problems. And injustices will happen because it's run by people. And people are flawed. The best we can do is try to learn from past mistakes and try to be better in the future.
the irish reasoning isnt entirely fair
ОтветитьBridge built. DGGL
ОтветитьI think another one that you could argue, looking past the empire which they werent a large part of, is wales. We've just never had the resources to do anything terrible.
ОтветитьPoint of order, Norway’s king, cabinet, and legislature fled the Norway under fire rather than now down to Nazi demands, and the Germans didn’t even trust Quisling (who told the Germans before the War, around when asking them to invade Norway, that Norway didn’t have a ‘Jewish Problem’) enough to tell him when they were seizing Jews. He had little to no power, and it is said the more power he lost the fatter his waistline got. After WWII one of the many charges used against him was that he had the initials rubbed off on the silver spoons stolen from FreeMasons. Though the main thing used as the excuse for executing him was him signing an order the Germans gave him to shoot a bunch of Norwegians. He really was just a puppet, and the Norwegians lasted longer from being invaded than the Poles and French, so sticking to the stuff with the Sami would have been better.
ОтветитьMaybe south sudan , i mean surley in 9 years theyve done nothing
ОтветитьProbably like Liechtenstein or something
Ответитьbut when the dictatorship is a puppet regime for imperialist power (for exemple in africa and in the middle east ) I don't think is fair to attribute to this country but for the Imperialist power.
Ответитьim calling Germany has the least Bad history
ОтветитьAll of this would be much simpler if we respected the Treaty of Tordesillas
ОтветитьDuring the Swedish invasion of Poland, Swedish soldiers stole so many works of art and craftsmanship that the barges and boats they used to transport them would routinely sink into the Vistula river due to too much weight being put on them. Also, during that invasion one third of the country's population was killed – for comparison the Nazis only killed one sixth.
ОтветитьBhutsn?
ОтветитьYou’re too hard on Switzerland and Sweden; Neutrality rules, war drools!
ОтветитьThe Bahamas never invaded anybody... ever.
Ответитьwhat about San Marino?
ОтветитьThe Caribbean should not feel shame for its past for obvious reasons, but then why should Eastern Europeans feel shame for their past? I do not get it. The authoritarian regimes of these countries were the direct result of Russian colonialism. It was something forced upon these people.
ОтветитьYou missed Singapore which is basically EPCOT defictionalized.
ОтветитьWhat do you mean "Only indigenous people in Europe"? Where else do Europeans come from
ОтветитьWhat about Greenland?
ОтветитьJapan refuses to apologize, recognize or teach the Grape of Nanking
ОтветитьDid anyone else notice that his "75% BLACK" pie chart shows clearly and obviously more than 75% of the pie being black, like in a way that anyone should see? Not a big deal but still worth a comment
ОтветитьI think all government is bad. Simplistic, yes but not any less true.
ОтветитьScotland
ОтветитьWish u talked about oceanic countries too
ОтветитьWhen I scrolled past this video, my dyslexia gave me a very different title...
ОтветитьO'Toole is actually the perfect name for a conservative, because conservatives are just tools of capital (but liberals too).
Ответитьevery country has done bad and good things we are human
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